A friend of mine just told me she was going to buy a boxer puppy off of the internet from Missouri. I have her talked out of that, explaining that they were puppy mills, most likely. I told her I would try to find her a reputable breeder in this area. Does anyone know of one? Thanks
Looking for Boxer breeder in area
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cattitude
My Sweetest Boy
I don't know of any in this area but please talk with Beth Downey. She can help you/them.
Boxers can have many serious genetic health issues and you need to be certain the parents are tested for them prior to breeding.
Amity Hall Boxers
These are also good guidelines to follow when purchasing a Boxer.
Backyard Breeder vs Reputable Breeder
A Few Guidlines for Selecting a Boxer Breeder
1. A reputable breeder will not breed dogs under the age of 2. 1. A reputable boxer breeder will conduct (and can provide proof of) the following genetic health tests on their breeding animals and will require them of the sire (father) should they "hire" a stud dog for the litter:
Holter monitor test yearly
Full thyroid panel yearly
OFA (for hip displasia), a one time deal done at or after age 2
Beware of breeders who scoff at genetic testing and say their particular breed/line is problem-free.
2. A reputable breeder requires that "pet-quality" animals be spayed or neutered and sells them on Limited Registration. Be wary of breeders who do not mention altering.
3. A reputable breeder provides a written contract with the sale of the pup. This will vary from breeder to breeder, but usually spells out the rights of the seller and buyer, health information, genetic health guarantees (should be at least 2 years), required altering and buy-back/return policy.
4. A reputable breeder typically has a waiting list for the unborn puppies and does not advertise in the newspaper classifieds.
5. A reputable breeder shows passion, love, and tremendous knowledge about the breed. He or she cares about placing puppies in excellent homes and will often interview potential buyers thoroughly, will make referrals to the local boxer rescue group, ask for references and will refuse to sell a dog if the home is not appropriate for the breed or for a puppy.
6. A reputable breeder recommends the local boxer rescue organization to potential homes. Explaining that these dogs make wonderful family pets and companions.
7. A reputable breeder will hold on to puppies as long as it takes to place them in the right homes and will continue to recommend rescue even though they have puppies available.
8. The environment (typically a home) in which the breeder keeps the dogs should be clean and well-maintained. Do not agree to meet the breeder off site. TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS ON THIS!
9. A reputable breeder is actively involved in the dog fancy, including showing and/or breed clubs. While there are exceptions--a retired individual who has shown dogs for 20 years--a person who is not involved with others in the breed can be suspect.
10. A reputable breeder is willing to provide answers to questions you may have and is willing to provide names of others who have purchased pups from them.
11. A reputable breeder will allow you to meet the puppies parents if available and, if the father isn't available, they will show you pictures and provide you with the information on how to contact the owner of the sire(father).
12. A reputable breeder follows up on puppies. He or she is interested in how the pups develop physically and mentally, difficulties in the owner/dog relationship and health problems.
13. A reputable breeder will not let puppies leave their home prior to 8 weeks of age and often not until 10 weeks of age.
14. Tails and dew claws should have been removed from the puppies by 3 days old.
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Thank you very much. I will do that right now. I'm also hoping she knows what she's getting herself into!!!! I just didn't want her to buy one from Missouri!!!!
cattitude
My Sweetest Boy
I'd be happy to talk with her!
If you are willing, I would love to give her your number or I could at least call you first. I was going to try to talk her out of getting a puppy all together, but for right now I think I have her talked out of the internet sale, at least. If you want to pm me that would be great. (I think you helped me out with an assisted living issue with my mother!!!)
TurboK9
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Here's a working breeder... mostly Euro lines... they have healthy, fit dogs. They work and test and certify their dogs. Don't know if that is important to you... 
but it should be Haha!
Working German Boxers von Bachbett Kennel - Breeders of European Boxers for Working, Schutzhund, Police, or Family Protectors and Companions
but it should be Haha!Working German Boxers von Bachbett Kennel - Breeders of European Boxers for Working, Schutzhund, Police, or Family Protectors and Companions
Independence
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A boxer is a boxer. There is no such thing as an american boxer or a german boxer. A blood line may have german background but the standard is the same no matter where the boxer originates.
Please feel free to contact me also about boxers. We are on out 4th. They are not a breed for everyone. They are smart, headstrong and "puppies" for a LONG time. They have a lot of energy and can get bored easy. The require a lot of attention. I could go on but.....
Please feel free to contact me also about boxers. We are on out 4th. They are not a breed for everyone. They are smart, headstrong and "puppies" for a LONG time. They have a lot of energy and can get bored easy. The require a lot of attention. I could go on but.....
TurboK9
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How many dogs do you have that hold working titles? Not many American breeders consider that of importance, which is sad IMHO. You can't evaluate the suitability for breeding of a working breed by measuring the jaw line. :shrug: I'm just saying.
cattitude
My Sweetest Boy
Good Lord. You are not the only one who knows dogs.
A working title doesn't mean a hill of crap. ESPECIALLY with a Boxer. First and foremost is their health and that starts with the health of their parents and has nothing to do with conformation...most of us Boxer owners know that.
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Cowgirl
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Not everybody wants a working dog.
TurboK9
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Which is why in my original post I said "if that is important to you". Dur.
But since we've gone off the original topic...
Not every breed is suited to be "just a pet". :shrug: There is a reason they are classified as 'working dogs', or at least, there used to be a reason until the drive was bred out of them to 'tone them down', so the average Joe could easily handle them without needing to have any real skills as a handler.
Like many of the old working breeds, they have a proud heritage. Yet today, you won't find nary a one serving in law enforcement, military, etc because the drive has been bred out of them to make them easier to handle for the average person. This even applies to the GSD, thus the proliferation of the Malinois, and once they gain in 'pet' popularity, the same will happen to them. Just a matter of time. :shrug:
Sad, IMHO.
Cowgirl
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Yeah, and you followed that with "it should be."
Big deal. Really. There are still lines of working dogs in working breeds, so people who truly want a working dog will be able to find them.
People who want pets will be able to find their dogs too. As long as they get plenty of exercise and stimulation, many working breed dogs can make great pets.
nomoney
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I don't have a farm or a junkyard I need to protect. I don't live in south central next door to bloods and I don't need to find truffles. So I'm glad my babies have been "toned" down. Its not really that sad.
I really wonder if they've been "toned" down for us stupid lazy pet owners or for insurance liability reasons.....hmmm....
Independence
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Turbo I wasn't refering to the working part of your post only that there is only one type of boxer not like an american bulldog versus an old english bulldog. I think your work (from what I have read) is impressive. I wasn't knocking you just offering my opinion on the breed which I have owned for the past 18 years.
Thanks Catt again you say what I mean
Thanks Catt again you say what I mean
PrepH4U
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I do not provide blood for my bloodhound nor do I let my sheep dogs herd sheep. I am such a lazy pet owner!
kwillia
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I do not provide blood for my bloodhound nor do I let my sheep dogs herd sheep. I am such a lazy pet owner!
No wonder the pet rescues rejected you.
TurboK9
New Member
Turbo I wasn't refering to the working part of your post only that there is only one type of boxer not like an american bulldog versus an old english bulldog. I think your work (from what I have read) is impressive. I wasn't knocking you just offering my opinion on the breed which I have owned for the past 18 years.
Thanks Catt again you say what I mean
Well, and for what it's worth, you do have your point. For one, I know the differences that ARE there with the Boxer are not as dramatic as with some other breeds (My preferred breed being one that the differences can be staggering in). I think if the Boxer ever gets it's own "101 Dalmations" or "Magnum PI" or "Beethoven" you'll be seeing a LOT more problems... I hope that never happens... Boxers are still good dogs.
TurboK9
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Nope. Just cause you are stupid and lazy I guess. It's all your fault.
So I guess I can't be entitled to my opinions, and must suffer people like you putting words in my mouth. So be it.
What part of "I think" and "IMHO" did you not get?
PrepH4U
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I know :heavysigh:
cattitude
My Sweetest Boy
I think if the Boxer ever gets it's own "101 Dalmations" or "Magnum PI" or "Beethoven" you'll be seeing a LOT more problems... I hope that never happens... Boxers are still good dogs.
They don't need a movie for that to happen. Boxers are extremely popular and the breed has suffered greatly because of irresponsible breeding. They have numerous health issues, notably cardiomyopathy and subaortic stenoisis, and are very prone to cancer.