Man: Ex' sex change should end alimony

[happyazz]

But she's no longer a woman that can't provide for herself, no longer the lesser sex that needed the alimony to survive.. Shim is now a man, who is a provider, a hunter gatherer if you will.. Shim doesn't need anybody's help to survive any longer

Soooo becoming a "man" has changed the circumstances that deemed the obligation of alimoney!!! Lack of education, marketable job skills....

 

[vraiblonde]

I'm not capable of making a living to support myself, I'm not capable of surviving without assistance. I'm totally dependent on someone else.

Actually, women who worked during the marriage typically don't get alimony. The women who do are mostly the ones who stayed home to care for the children and tend the homefront.

Alimony is a way of saying, "Sorry, dude. You can't run off with your secretary and leave me high and dry after all these years. If you want to "find yourself", take a look in the mirror at that broke ass mo - there you are!"

 

[happyazz]

True story:


Now, I don't know about the rest of you ladies, but a guy whose wife not only divorces him but changes sides as well is not a guy I'd want to get involved with.

OMFG, don't even emit that you belive that shieat. SHE WAS ALREADY GAY!

 

[vraiblonde]

OMFG, don't even emit that you belive that shieat. SHE WAS ALREADY GAY!

I don't know - this guy was pretty weird. Even I was starting to eye the waitress by the time lunch was over.

 

[julz20684]

No, that's what alimony/ palimony says..

I'm not capable of making a living to support myself, I'm not capable of surviving without assistance. I'm totally dependent on someone else.

Ok. I understand now, my bad.

 

[happyazz]

I don't know - this guy was pretty weird. Even I was starting to eye the waitress by the time lunch was over.

Something you want to share???? Does Larry know?

 

[itsbob]

Actually, women who worked during the marriage typically don't get alimony. The women who do are mostly the ones who stayed home to care for the children and tend the homefront.

Alimony is a way of saying, "Sorry, dude. You can't run off with your secretary and leave me high and dry after all these years. If you want to "find yourself", take a look in the mirror at that broke ass mo - there you are!"

Funny, doesn't alimony get paid even if SHE is the one doing something that caused the divorce? Why does it always have to be the man?

 

[oldnavy]

Actually, women who worked during the marriage typically don't get alimony. The women who do are mostly the ones who stayed home to care for the children and tend the homefront.

Alimony is a way of saying, "Sorry, dude. You can't run off with your secretary and leave me high and dry after all these years. If you want to "find yourself", take a look in the mirror at that broke ass mo - there you are!"

Not so in my case. My Ex worked from day one and continued to do so for many, many years of our marriage. Then she decided to quit work and go back to school. Not only did she quit work, but a lot of other things too...but that's another story. At any rate, she still was not working when we got divorced and she is getting a bunch-o-cash every month in alimony. Not only that, she will get X % of my retirement pay on top of the alimony when that time comes.
By the way...when we separated, she went back to work, but at a job where she gets paid under the table...so it's not taxed and therefore I can't prove it...although she often refers to going to work and the kids say that she's at work.
I think I had a crappy lawyer and got taken to the cleaners.

 

[vraiblonde]

Funny, doesn't alimony get paid even if SHE is the one doing something that caused the divorce?

It seems to me that if the man sued for divorce on the grounds of infidelity or something like that, he wouldn't have to pay alimony. I'd think any decent lawyer could swing a sweet deal in that case.

 

[itsbob]

It seems to me that if the man sued for divorce on the grounds of infidelity or something like that, he wouldn't have to pay alimony. I'd think any decent lawyer could swing a sweet deal in that case.

I disagree. If she has no skills or education, and not marketable, I don't think it matters who is at fault, the judge will award her alimony (in states that still have alimony laws)

 

[vraiblonde]

I disagree. If she has no skills or education, and not marketable, I don't think it matters who is at fault, the judge will award her alimony (in states that still have alimony laws)

I'd be curious how that works. You'd think that if she was cheating on him or abusing drugs or something like that, he wouldn't have to pay to support her.

Although if she got custody of the children, maybe that would have something to do with it. But if she was that bad and he let her have his children, screw him - he deserves what he gets.

 

[Pete]

I'd be curious how that works. You'd think that if she was cheating on him or abusing drugs or something like that, he wouldn't have to pay to support her.

Although if she got custody of the children, maybe that would have something to do with it. But if she was that bad and he let her have his children, screw him - he deserves what he gets.

Unfortunately most judges don't give a crap anymore. You could have a video of your spouse having sex with the entire softball team on a picnic table in a park and they don't care, irreconcilable differences, move along NEXT!

 

[vraiblonde]

Unfortunately most judges don't give a crap anymore. You could have a video of your spouse having sex with the entire softball team on a picnic table in a park and they don't care, irreconcilable differences, move along NEXT!

Yeah, but don't you have a lawyer that does that stuff?

When I got divorced, it was uncontested and not particularly acrimonious - we wrote down stuff on a legal pad, turned it over to a lawyer, who gave it to his gal to type up, we signed it, end of story.

But I'd think if you had something to fight about - money, kids, whatever - you'd retain your own lawyer who would represent you toward getting what you want. Or does that only happen on TV?

 

[itsbob]

Unfortunately most judges don't give a crap anymore. You could have a video of your spouse having sex with the entire softball team on a picnic table in a park and they don't care, irreconcilable differences, move along NEXT!

Then it's just math. . You make this much, she makes that much.. you owe her X to make up the difference every month..

 

[Pete]

Yeah, but don't you have a lawyer that does that stuff?

When I got divorced, it was uncontested and not particularly acrimonious - we wrote down stuff on a legal pad, turned it over to a lawyer, who gave it to his gal to type up, we signed it, end of story.

But I'd think if you had something to fight about - money, kids, whatever - you'd retain your own lawyer who would represent you toward getting what you want. Or does that only happen on TV?

Nope, very rare. Judges just don't want to hear it. You know in most states you cannot even file on the grounds of adultery or neglect. Irreconcilable differences and financial irresponsibility are about the only 2 grounds and the later is rare.

The spouse can be a dirty cheating liar and the chick will still get the kids in most cases. I was lucky, if you can call it lucky. Mine got in trouble with the law on top of other things and Maine was a progressive state so I won but I pushed it hard and it cost me huge $$.

I can see no reason what so ever for alimony. Take that back. If the wife was a stay at home mom for children born the the couple for 5 years or more then yea a stipend until she can re enter the work force for a set period of time. none of this life long bullchit where they shack up with some other guy and wont get married because if they did Alimony will end. And the other abhorrent practice of awarding $1 to a woman who doesn't need it "right now" but might in future years, to keep the case open. Total bullchit.

 

[vraiblonde]

Then it's just math. . You make this much, she makes that much.. you owe her X to make up the difference every month..

I didn't get any alimony

A Weird Al song:
(to the tune of Mony Mony)

Here she comes now, wants her alimony
Bleeding me dry as a bony bony
Workin' three jobs just to stay in debt now
Well, first she took my nest egg then she took the nest
I said yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah)

 

[Pete]

I didn't get any alimony

A Weird Al song:
(to the tune of Mony Mony)

Here she comes now, wants her alimony
Bleeding me dry as a bony bony
Workin' three jobs just to stay in debt now
Well, first she took my nest egg then she took the nest
I said yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah)

Most states don't award it anymore but some still do. A lot of it is made up for in larger child support awards. Military retirements are also a source of alimony for life which is bullchit to a point.

 

[aps45819]

Are you saying women need help to survive?

The courts say that

 

[fab]

I didn't get any alimony

A Weird Al song:
(to the tune of Mony Mony)

Here she comes now, wants her alimony
Bleeding me dry as a bony bony
Workin' three jobs just to stay in debt now
Well, first she took my nest egg then she took the nest
I said yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah), yeah (yeah)

I didn't get alimony either. Only child support for 1 child. I actually had to call my ex husband when son turned 18 and tell him that the child support office was supposed to quit taking the money out. He never contacted them (typical of him) so I had to contact them to tell them to quit taking the money out of his check. I also didn't cash the checks that came after he turned 18. I am always paranoid about the jail thing! I am the only one of momma's children who have never been in the clink!

 

[vraiblonde]

Military retirements are also a source of alimony for life which is bullchit to a point.

Here's the thing:

For every evil woman who makes her husband's life a living hell, then ditches him for her drug dealer, there's another woman who raised the kids and supported her husband in his schooling and career, only to have him run off with the barmaid and leave her and the kids penniless with no means of support.

Those women shouldn't have to suffer financially because the man changed his mind and wanted to trade her in. But it should be awarded on a case by case basis - I don't agree with some chickie soaking her ex because she wanted to run off to Tahiti with some stud.