Man w/down syndrome dies

[MMDad]

Okay, so it's not a "fact" that she was an aide? Not a "fact" that she was there to be...um...aiding him? Not a "fact" that she left him alone to go do whatever she was doing besides aiding him?

I could see leaving him in the middle of the movie to run out real quick. You know, when he's settled and engrossed. But apparently she left him at the end of the movie, at a time he obviously needed some help to understand what was needed.

Negligent? Yes. She was being paid to help him, and when that help was needed she was not there. If the parents go after anyone, the company she worked for would be a good start.

 

[Hank]

Damn Penn, that is some serious drunk posting. Come back when you sober up and try again.

Penna Coladas are flowing tonight!

 

[vraiblonde]

I could see leaving him in the middle of the movie to run out real quick. You know, when he's settled and engrossed. But apparently she left him at the end of the movie, at a time he obviously needed some help to understand what was needed.

Negligent? Yes. She was being paid to help him, and when that help was needed she was not there. If the parents go after anyone, the company she worked for would be a good start.

We're going to find out there's more to the story with this "aide", you mark my words.

Or actually no we won't because nobody gives a damn what really happened. They're on a cop-bashing rampage and god help anyone who gets in their way.

 

[Hank]

Penna Coladas are flowing tonight!

Good one, Hank!

 

[Roman]

Okay, so it's not a "fact" that she was an aide? Not a "fact" that she was there to be...um...aiding him? Not a "fact" that she left him alone to go do whatever she was doing besides aiding him?

Who was responsible for this man: the aide who was sent to the movies with him, or the cops?

You people are sofa king stupid, I swear.

You really meant to say "Sofa King we todd it" right?

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Okay, so it's not a "fact" that she was an aide? Not a "fact" that she was there to be...um...aiding him? Not a "fact" that she left him alone to go do whatever she was doing besides aiding him?

Who was responsible for this man: the aide who was sent to the movies with him, or the cops?

You people are sofa king stupid, I swear.

This man was 26 years old, had a job, and went to church. He wasn't a social outcast.

The aide was allowed to leave him, and she left him to get the car ready to leave.

Everything the aide did was perfectly inline with her duties.

The guy didn't die until the confrontation. It's pretty simple, really.

 

[itsrequired]

So you had to restrain someone or many? Was that individual a DS person? So what was the outcome? Did you have assistance? Did you use handcuffs. Was it SOP? Do you handle every instances, every time you pull over the same way? I bet you have made mistake, it just was not tragic. As was said about the aid, you can leave a kid in the tub 10, no problem, thenthe 11th there is. How many times have these officers had dealing with someone with DS? How about you? As for challenging people, yes, I bet an office deals with a few every week when the bar closes.

I will be happy to answer each and every one of your questions if you would only answer my one question.

How is it exactly that the police overreacted? What did they do, in your opinion that was outside of what they should have done?

 

[itsrequired]

This man was 26 years old, had a job, and went to church. He wasn't a social outcast.

The aide was allowed to leave him, and she left him to get the car ready to leave.

Everything the aide did was perfectly inline with her duties.

The guy didn't die until the confrontation. It's pretty simple, really.

Isn't everything the cops did perfectly inline with their duties?

 

[vraiblonde]

she left him to get the car ready to leave.

Oh stop it. What exactly does one do to "get a car ready to leave"? Anything besides start it?

You're on the wrong side of this argument and you know it.

 

[Bay_Kat]

This man was 26 years old, had a job, and went to church. He wasn't a social outcast.

The aide was allowed to leave him, and she left him to get the car ready to leave.

Everything the aide did was perfectly inline with her duties.

The guy didn't die until the confrontation. It's pretty simple, really.

Sounds like cop bashing to me.

 

[Baja28]

This man was 26 years old, had a job, and went to church. He wasn't a social outcast.

The aide was allowed to leave him, and she left him to get the car ready to leave.

Everything the aide did was perfectly inline with her duties.

The guy didn't die until the confrontation. It's pretty simple, really.

Dude, you really posted this??
Do you own binoculars?

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Oh stop it. What exactly does one do to "get a car ready to leave"? Anything besides start it?

You're on the wrong side of this argument and you know it.

Sounds like cop bashing to me.

Dude, you really posted this??
Do you own binoculars?

You all make it seem like the guy needed a leash, and the aide to keep him inline.

It's not cop bashing, it's a simple fact that he was alive, until he was restrained.....by police.

 

[MMDad]

You all make it seem like the guy needed a leash, and the aide to keep him inline.

It's not cop bashing, it's a simple fact that he was alive, until he was restrained.....by police.

And you are acting like this is some mild mannered guy just sitting there minding his own business.

If he didn't need an aide to "keep him in line" or as I prefer to say "assist him," than why did he have one? Why would you pay someone an hourly wage to look after somone who is perfectly capable of functioning alone? Does your mommy still get you a babysitter when she leaves the house?

You are seriously stuck on your inability to admit you were wrong. It's very immature. It's time to grow up, admit that you went off on a tangent, and stop this silly finger pointing that you love to do.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

And you are acting like this is some mild mannered guy just sitting there minding his own business.

If he didn't need an aide to "keep him in line" or as I prefer to say "assist him," than why did he have one? Why would you pay someone an hourly wage to look after somone who is perfectly capable of functioning alone? Does your mommy still get you a babysitter when she leaves the house?

You are seriously stuck on your inability to admit you were wrong. It's very immature. It's time to grow up, admit that you went off on a tangent, and stop this silly finger pointing that you love to do.

I'm not acting like anything, if he is the threat to society you all alude to, he wouldn't have a job. He wouldn't be a productive member of society if he was a ticking time bomb.

Just like you admitted that you don't really know if they spent $75k on drugs?

Just like you admitted that you don't know know if they were high or not?

Hop down off your soapbox for a second and think about it.

The guy was alive and well before and during the movie.

After the movie, 3 security guards/police officers restrained him....he is now dead. Yet, this whole incident is the aide's fault for going to get the car?

I assume, since you all follow the same line of reasoning, you'll be blaming the parents of a bank robber for not parenting him enough. Or maybe a zoo keeper is at fault if someone falls into the lion cage, because they weren't there.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

That is two questions.

They put his face to the ground. Second, they were not in uniform, so when they confronted the victim, they provoked the response that scared him making him think that a stranger was attacking him. Third, it was reported, I need to find the report, that the aid made an attempt to confront the officers but they did not allow her to intervene.

The officers over reacted, attempted to detain an individual over a $12 movie ticket, even before the crime had occurred. So tell me, what law did the victim break?

So to answer your question, they over reacted by using force to detain someone for a minor infraction. It was bad judgement on their part which escalated it to the level of a physical altercation.

Now answer my question to you.

This one?

Frederick inquiry into disabled man's death is complete - WTOP.com

"When the caregiver returned to the theater, she tried to intervene and de-escalate the situation but was ignored, Espo said."

This article doesn't say, both other articles online have stated the death was ruled as homicide.

 

[Bay_Kat]

So here they functioning as cops or security at the time of this?

You really should check your post before you submit it.

 

[MMDad]

Maybe he only needed an aid to drive him back and forth to the theater since he did not have a drivers lic.

As for claiming immature, pot meet kettle.

Damn Penn, that stung coming from you!

You obviously don't know what an aide does, so keep spouting stupid. Here's a clue: it's not a chauffeur. Why don't you look into the duties and responsibilities of the aide before exhibiting your ignorance?

 

[MMDad]

You really should check your post before you submit it.

He's drunk.

 

[Bay_Kat]

He's drunk.

Already or still?

 

[thatguy]

That is two questions.

They put his face to the ground. Second, they were not in uniform, so when they confronted the victim, they provoked the response that scared him making him think that a stranger was attacking him. Third, it was reported, I need to find the report, that the aid made an attempt to confront the officers but they did not allow her to intervene.

The officers over reacted, attempted to detain an individual over a $12 movie ticket, even before the crime had occurred. So tell me, what law did the victim break?
So to answer your question, they over reacted by using force to detain someone for a minor infraction. It was bad judgement on their part which escalated it to the level of a physical altercation.

Now answer my question to you.

sounds just like George Zimmerman