Marine Puppy Toss

The Oyster Guy

New Member
Replace dog with chicken and see how much sense your argument makes. Our Marines aren't expected to fight Americans, they're expected to fight guys who don't share our special little cultural connection with puppies. Do you really want these guys looking at our Marines as guys who can't even deal with killing a puppy?

Your argument is becoming increasingly ridiculous... now you seem to be suggesting that torturing animals is somehow necessary to gain the respect of the enemy. Perhaps boot camp should include training on how best to torture "enemy" animals???
 

Lugnut

I'm Rick James #####!
Your argument is becoming increasingly ridiculous... now you seem to be suggesting that torturing animals is somehow necessary to gain the respect of the enemy. Perhaps boot camp should include training on how best to torture "enemy" animals???

"let them hate so long as they fear"

Not a very popular motto but an effective one.
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
Did you see the video? The marines surely didn't look like they were in combat. They were laughing and joking and having a grand old time. And did you see the size of the puppy? I'm sorry, but I have a hard time believing that little puppy would somehow give away their position. It looked like it was maybe 8 weeks old and maybe 5 lbs.

I saw the video. The dog looked dead already. And the guys looked like they were in Iraq. I deem that a hostile combat environment, where every day you run the chance of getting into a firefight, encountering hostiles, running over landmines or even having a suicidal bomber crash his way through the barricades. There are no days off - even when they are in the "rear" they still are under threat. It's high stress and most these guys have been serving longer than recommended. All know somebody who has been wounded and most likely killed. Until you are in that kind of environment you have no idea how morbid your sense of humor can become. Odds are that dog was dead. The Marines (know for their bravery not their intelligence) decided to f around and blow off steam. Sound effects seemed added or even possibly was a devil dog himself f'ng around making noises behind the camera. My opinion still stands, that these Marines did not deserve the punishment and that the punishment was politically motivated by people who don't really give a crap about their soldiers anyway. To be more concerned over a dead dog than dead Marines, soldiers, sailors and airmen tells me a lot about the people biytching about it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the heck out of my animals. I'm a bleeding heart too. But not in a combat arena.
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
I saw the video. The dog looked dead already. And the guys looked like they were in Iraq. I deem that a hostile combat environment, where every day you run the chance of getting into a firefight, encountering hostiles, running over landmines or even having a suicidal bomber crash his way through the barricades. There are no days off - even when they are in the "rear" they still are under threat. It's high stress and most these guys have been serving longer than recommended. All know somebody who has been wounded and most likely killed. Until you are in that kind of environment you have no idea how morbid your sense of humor can become. Odds are that dog was dead. The Marines (know for their bravery not their intelligence) decided to f around and blow off steam. Sound effects seemed added or even possibly was a devil dog himself f'ng around making noises behind the camera. My opinion still stands, that these Marines did not deserve the punishment and that the punishment was politically motivated by people who don't really give a crap about their soldiers anyway. To be more concerned over a dead dog than dead Marines, soldiers, sailors and airmen tells me a lot about the people biytching about it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the heck out of my animals. I'm a bleeding heart too. But not in a combat arena.


Surely there are times over there when the soldiers are not actively fighting, therefore they have time to relax a bit. I'm sure it's hostile over there, but had they killed the dog (if it wasn't already dead) because it was a threat to them, they would not have had the time to joke about it and film it.

I just don't get why you say people biatching about the pup care more about it than they do soldiers. :confused: Can't one care about both?
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
"let them hate so long as they fear"

Not a very popular motto but an effective one.

Having been married to a mentally unstable ex-Marine for a minute that statement is hogwash to anyone with a brain. Fear gaining tatics worked out great for him didn't they? :lol: You can be strong and you can be fearless; doesn't mean you have to be a psycho.
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
100% my thinking :yay:

You know, just because we hold soldiers accountable for stupid actions doesn't mean we don't care about them (as a whole, not those stupid individuals). I mean, what are we supposed to do? You only care for them if you turn a blind eye and let them behave however they want? The moment you punish them for doing something stupid, you're un-American and don't care about them. :rolleyes:
 

Lugnut

I'm Rick James #####!
Having been married to a mentally unstable ex-Marine for a minute that statement is hogwash to anyone with a brain. Fear gaining tatics worked out great for him didn't they? :lol: You can be strong and you can be fearless; doesn't mean you have to be a psycho.

I wasn't referring to matrimony. I was talking about war/combat.

SOME people say war and marriage are the same, but I'm not one of them. I'm a romantic at heart! SHhhhh... Don't tell anybody! :lmao:
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
I wasn't referring to matrimony. I was talking about war/combat.

SOME people say war and marriage are the same, but I'm not one of them. I'm a romantic at heart! SHhhhh... Don't tell anybody! :lmao:

I can name a whole list of people I'd prefer to have my back in combat!
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
My opinion still stands, that these Marines did not deserve the punishment and that the punishment was politically motivated by people who don't really give a crap about their soldiers anyway. To be more concerned over a dead dog than dead Marines, soldiers, sailors and airmen tells me a lot about the people biytching about it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the heck out of my animals. I'm a bleeding heart too. But not in a combat arena.

I agree that they don't deserve punishment for what is on the tape. They deserve punishment for taping it and letting it get out. They didn't learn from Abu Ghraib.
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
Yes I would choose him anyday over an animal rights activist who has never seen a day of military duty or served their country. BTW, we want our Marines to be "pschyopaths". We as a nation have encouraged it since the USMC's creation. Look up their history. They didn't earn the nickname "devil dogs" because they were sweet and petable. One of their many mottos is "let me win your heart and minds or I'll burn your damn hut down". They have been called insane fanatics, rabid dogs and worse by their enemies and they are proud of it. So tell me why, someone that has been encouraged to be a "psychopath", to kill and to kill well, should be punished over some dog that didn't mean anything to anybody but to bleeding hearts who are thousands of miles away and wouldn't be able to defend themselves if their lives depended upon it? Should these Marines have been punished and kicked out because of "political" ramifications in the US? No, they shouldn't have.


This has nothing to do with "animal rights" activists or anything political. Torturing animals is a generally accepted symptom of mental illness.

How would you feel if this had been a neighbor kid who had been caught doing the same thing?
 

forestal

I'm the Boss of Me
Probably the puppy needed killing real bad.

The marine was just his best to help out.


but seriously, It's funny to watch you guys justify the killing of a defenseless puppy for some psycho's twisted jollies.

Good riddance to that dickhead of a jarhead.

If it in necessary to kill a defenseless animal, you can do it without being a dick about it :shrug:
 

chernmax

NOT Politically Correct!!
Probably the puppy needed killing real bad.

The marine was just his best to help out.


but seriously, It's funny to watch you guys justify the killing of a defenseless puppy for some psycho's twisted jollies.

Good riddance to that dickhead of a jarhead.

The only disappointing part is had they tossed you off the cliff, he'd probably be receiving a citation right now. :cartwheel
 

Mojo

New Member
And just how many combat tours do you two have??? :sarcasm:

:lol:

:doh:

Ok, that may be a fair argument with VM, but c'mon...you would REALLY want someone covering your 6 that thought it would be a good idea to let himself be videotaped doing something that would offend the MAJORITY of the nation he is serving to protect? :rolleyes:

That is exactly the kind of person that you want watching your back in combat. I'll be damned if I want some bleeding heart pussy backing me up when the bullets start flying.

Having been married to a mentally unstable ex-Marine for a minute that statement is hogwash to anyone with a brain. Fear gaining tatics worked out great for him didn't they? :lol: You can be strong and you can be fearless; doesn't mean you have to be a psycho.

:smack:

I can name a whole list of people I'd prefer to have my back in combat!

:tap:
 

Kerad

New Member
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but seriously, It's funny to watch you guys justify the killing of a defenseless puppy for some psycho's twisted jollies.

Good riddance to that dickhead of a jarhead.

:yeahthat:


"The actions seen in the Internet video are contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine and will not be tolerated," Marine Corps Base Hawaii said in a news release. "The vast majority of Marines conduct their duties with honor and compassion that makes American people proud."
 

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

Well-Known Member
That is exactly the kind of person that you want watching your back in combat. I'll be damned if I want some bleeding heart pussy backing me up when the bullets start flying.

Look at the whole picture dumbass.

I expected this general reply from someone.

You want someone covering your back that was dumb enough to have himself videotaped something he would most DEFINITELY recieve reprimand for? This is the same person who gets trigger-happy and shoots a friendly, or god FORBID if he were your superior somehow, decides it is a good idea to go into an unnecessary and extremely hostile situation...but gets it cleared to do it anyway.

I'm just saying...sure, I understand the "doesn't give an eff" aspect of this guy, as to why you would want him on your side...but how do you know that someone dumb enough to do this, on video, isn't dumb enough to do something else...especially if he is the "solo-hero" type.

:shrug:
 
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