Md Passes largest tax hike in history.

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Maybe, but your side beleives WMD disinformation!:duel:
:lol: Imagine you sold some guy a gun which he then used to take pot shots at his neighbors. The cops show up and search his house but are unable to find the gun. Is it reasonable to assume this guy had a gun and hid it?
 

Dymphna

Loyalty, Friendship, Love
Taxing the living shiat out of a specific segment of society seems fair to you? How about we slap a tax of $2 a loaf on any type of baked bread. That way everyone can contribute to helping the poor because everyone likes bread.
Time to break out all those bread makers collecting dust.....

You know, the state is counting on the fact that people are so addicted to cigs they won't give them up. When we were kids, and someone wanted a smoke but didn't have the funds, we could just wander out into the barn and pull down a leaf...Actually Grandpa did that all the time, he taught us all about which ones were best. Can't do that now, though, not after Glendening...so now that the tax is harder to get around legally, the taxes go up. :whistle:
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Time to break out all those bread makers collecting dust.....

You know, the state is counting on the fact that people are so addicted to cigs they won't give them up. When we were kids, and someone wanted a smoke but didn't have the funds, we could just wander out into the barn and pull down a leaf...Actually Grandpa did that all the time, he taught us all about which ones were best. Can't do that now, though, not after Glendening...so now that the tax is harder to get around legally, the taxes go up. :whistle:
Prince Albert crimp cut pipe tobacco and a pack of rolling papers, good to go.
 

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
My experience is the ONLY factual information I have. Your side touts mythical studies, guesses and "I read once"'s but offers no proof and if you did I would have to wonder how many of the career welfare dwellers are forthright and say "Yea, I could get a job but that sucks. Why bother when the gubmint will direct deposit money on the first of the month for doing nothing?"

Oh, your former step daughter and my sister in law are two of a kind, lazy. She is up the three kids now and still has not even attempted to work.:buttkick:
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
Oh, your former step daughter and my sister in law are two of a kind, lazy. She is up the three kids now and still has not even attempted to work.:buttkick:

I have a cousin like that. Swears she can't work because of x wrong with her and her husband can't because he has y wrong with him...I have both x and y and have worked without interruption since I was 14.

But people who are on assistance are all individuals. Some may not have the skills (or even intelligence in some cases) to get above subsistance, some have just fallen on hard times, some know they can do better but gotta eat in the mean time... and of course those that abuse the system.
 

Pete

Repete
I have a cousin like that. Swears she can't work because of x wrong with her and her husband can't because he has y wrong with him...I have both x and y and have worked without interruption since I was 14.

But people who are on assistance are all individuals. Some may not have the skills (or even intelligence in some cases) to get above subsistance, some have just fallen on hard times, some know they can do better but gotta eat in the mean time... and of course those that abuse the system.

So what you are saying is that we should target stupid people for elimination because they are dragging us down.
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
So what you are saying is that we should target stupid people for elimination because they are dragging us down.

People who abuse the system aren't stupid, they just apply their minds to getting out of work rather than getting ahead.

Some folks can be happy at that level of pure subsistence.
 

Pete

Repete
People who abuse the system aren't stupid, they just apply their minds to getting out of work rather than getting ahead.

Some folks can be happy at that level of pure subsistence.

That guy who discovered DNA said something to the affect we as a society are in grave danger because the dumb and shiftless breed like rabbits while the smart and ambitious manage family size. In the coming decades the dumb and shiftless will interbreed and outnumber us to the point we cannot support ourselves.
 

Dymphna

Loyalty, Friendship, Love
That guy who discovered DNA said something to the affect we as a society are in grave danger because the dumb and shiftless breed like rabbits while the smart and ambitious manage family size. In the coming decades the dumb and shiftless will interbreed and outnumber us to the point we cannot support ourselves.
That's a scary thought, because it makes sense.

One of the families on welfare when I was working there was an unmarried couple with 5 children. All the children as well as the parents were mentally retarded. The parents told me one day that they couldn't get married because it would be incest. :twitch:
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
but you have had non-average experiences.
Taxing cigs to help the poor is a great idea. Next should be SUVs...

That's where you are wrong. His experience is all too typical and normal. The propganda you read is what is wrong. You should get out in public and learn for yourself instead of getting your information from whatever George Soros decides to feed you.

Taxing cigs to help people who will not help themselves is not a great idea, it's stupid. Since the poor are disproportionally affected by the cigarette tax, does it really make any sense at all?

Taxing cigs to defray their actual cost to society is a great idea. Of course, their actual cost to society should be determined first, before levying the tax.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
That guy who discovered DNA said something to the affect we as a society are in grave danger because the dumb and shiftless breed like rabbits while the smart and ambitious manage family size. In the coming decades the dumb and shiftless will interbreed and outnumber us to the point we cannot support ourselves.
I read a theory that in 500 years, there will essentially be two types of humans: the tall, intellegent type and the short, squat, stupid type. I'll see if I can find the story later.
 

Pete

Repete
That's a scary thought, because it makes sense.

One of the families on welfare when I was working there was an unmarried couple with 5 children. All the children as well as the parents were mentally retarded. The parents told me one day that they couldn't get married because it would be incest. :twitch:

So did Mike ever find true love?
 

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
People who abuse the system aren't stupid, they just apply their minds to getting out of work rather than getting ahead.

Some folks can be happy at that level of pure subsistence.

I always said if she put half the energy into doing something positive that she puts into beating the system, she could actually get somewhere. She's just plain and simple,, a loaf!!! Oh but she has her cigs and beer while her little ones sleep on nasty mattresses with big old holes!! Personally I can't even be around her because of what will come out of my mouth!!! My husband gets pizzed when I say things but he's the first to make snide remarks about others doing the same thing, just not about HIS baby sister.:smack:
 

Pete

Repete
I read a theory that in 500 years, there will essentially be two types of humans: the tall, intellegent type and the short, squat, stupid type. I'll see if I can find the story later.

If the DNA guy is right the smart ones will probably die off because they couldn't compete with the new age neanderthals for food.

Also if the tall smart ones only intermingle they will eventually begin inbreeding which would promote bad "genetic traits".
 

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
That's a scary thought, because it makes sense.

One of the families on welfare when I was working there was an unmarried couple with 5 children. All the children as well as the parents were mentally retarded. The parents told me one day that they couldn't get married because it would be incest. :twitch:


yuk...:barf:
 

Pete

Repete
I always said if she put half the energy into doing something positive that she puts into beating the system, she could actually get somewhere. She's just plain and simple,, a loaf!!! Oh but she has her cigs and beer while her little ones sleep on nasty mattresses with big old holes!! Personally I can't even be around her because of what will come out of my mouth!!! My husband gets pizzed when I say things but he's the first to make snide remarks about others doing the same thing, just not about HIS baby sister.:smack:

DING this is why people have gotten that way....no one ever dares say anything. We have to be all Politically Correct and say "You seem to be motivationally and hygenically challenged because of some outside unknown influence" instead of "you are a lazy skeezbag."
 
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