Medical treatment refused

[czygvtwkr]

Thank goodness they sent him somewhere else if they weren't equipped to treat him!

I was just floored that a hospital wasn't equipped to take care of a heart attack. Its not like it was Ebola or the Bubonic Plague.

 

[bcp]

I was just floored that a hospital wasn't equipped to take care of a heart attack. Its not like it was Ebola or the Bubonic Plague.

not all hospitals are equipped. the equipment is expensive, the doctors are not that easy to come by.
most will just stabilize you for transport to the nearest heart facility to them.
as they did for me.

but it sounds as though the first hospital that thatguy went to had no clue how to treat for heart attack. His story is missing an important step that they would have taken when looking at him at first.

 

[jsouthan]

Didn't read the whole post but a friend of mine recently had to go to the doctor for tests on her thyroid levels because she had her thyroids removed. She has no insurance due to not being able to afford it. She was charged just to walk in the office, 341.00. She of course did not have it and they would not take her unless she paid at least 25% of the office visit up front. There went her grocery money. She refuses to go to the filthy so called clinics. If she goes to the Emergency rooms the bills she gets after wards are astronomical. So if she pays on the bills she will never catch up due to the fact that she is conically ill. We need some sort of health care help or people like her will just drown in the bills.

Now, I will admit up front that I am not an expert, but if this friend is truly that bad off financially and has a chronic illness, isn't that something that would qualify for Medicaid?

 

[Bann]

I work with someone who had a heart attack and they told me St Marys Hospital refused to treat them because they said they weren't equipped for it and sent him to PG medical center.

They sent him packing without any medical care at all? Or did they treat the critical symptoms and then transfer him?

If they turned away a person in the middle of a heart attack, alert the media, because that would be a criminal act.

 

[Bann]

Now, I will admit up front that I am not an expert, but if this friend is truly that bad off financially and has a chronic illness, isn't that something that would qualify for Medicaid?

 

[libertytyranny]

I was just floored that a hospital wasn't equipped to take care of a heart attack. Its not like it was Ebola or the Bubonic Plague.

That is such a false and malicious story. I have worked there for years and years..in the ER as well as the floors.. they ABSOLUTELY do not just "send someone away" there is an entire protocol that goes into effect from the minute the ambulance call comes in...or the triage nurse alerts there is someone with symptoms. they become the very first treated patient. Their room is prepared (if there is time) there is an ekg done immediatly (that would be my number 1 priority), that MUST be seen by the doc and signed, blood is drawn (cardiac panels) and they are generally given a chest xray or echo even if the EKG is normal. I have seen this process a million times...on everyone with chest pain, trouble breathing etc..even if it is a 10 year old or an 80 year old. Many patients, especially those with particularly acute EKG rythms are either flown out or taken in an ambulance to a hospital with a cath lab...so that patients that are actually having a heart attack can recieve the best care possible.

 

[bcp]

That is such a false and malicious story. I have worked there for years and years..in the ER as well as the floors.. they ABSOLUTELY do not just "send someone away" there is an entire protocol that goes into effect from the minute the ambulance call comes in...or the triage nurse alerts there is someone with symptoms. they become the very first treated patient. Their room is prepared (if there is time) there is an ekg done immediatly (that would be my number 1 priority), that MUST be seen by the doc and signed, blood is drawn (cardiac panels) and they are generally given a chest xray or echo even if the EKG is normal. I have seen this process a million times...on everyone with chest pain, trouble breathing etc..even if it is a 10 year old or an 80 year old. Many patients, especially those with particularly acute EKG rythms are either flown out or taken in an ambulance to a hospital with a cath lab...so that patients that are actually having a heart attack can recieve the best care possible.

dont lie, tell the truth, if they dont have insurance or a bag of unmarked bills, you just roll them out the back door so nobody sees.

 

[libertytyranny]

dont lie, tell the truth, if they dont have insurance or a bag of unmarked bills, you just roll them out the back door so nobody sees.

haha.

actually, generally we give them the narcotics they came in for...then send the medical assitance lady in there who helps people find programs that will help them pay for care, or set up a payment plan they can afford.

oh yeah..then we push them down the laundry shoot.

 

[bcp]

67 posts and not one true story about anyone being left to die because medical care was not to be had.

tell me again about these people in this country that are dying in the streets by the millions?

 

[PrchJrkr]

I went in for a headache, asked for Oxycotin, and they refused me service.

 

[bohman]

so, as it is currently, nobody is refused needed treatment.

you know you can even get the shots for your kids for free if you are uninsured right now?

Im just looking for that story where someone was not able to get help, at all, anywhere. But you know thats what I was looking for, and thats why I left the wording like I did, I wanted to see how many people would try to skirt around the issue.

now, who has a real story about an American citizen dying because he was refused care anywhere, and was just left to die in the street.

anyone?

must be someone, we keep hearing from the idiot in charge about how people are going without needed care right now in this country.

So, you are of the opinion that our medical system is perfect as-is? As long as somebody can get treatment somewhere, somehow (with the rest of us paying for it), no change is needed?

Please don't take the above as any indication that I want the gov't to monkey with MY health care. That thought scares the hell out of me. I'll stick with my mediocre HMO, thanks. It just seems like you don't think there is any problem with the current system at all.

Side-note for all the St. Mary's area folks reading this, don't bother going to Breton medical. Take the bridge to Solomons, you'll thank yourself later.

 

[bcp]

I went in for a headache, asked for Oxycotin, and they refused me service.

Rush????
Is that you?

 

[thatguy]

not all hospitals are equipped. the equipment is expensive, the doctors are not that easy to come by.
most will just stabilize you for transport to the nearest heart facility to them.
as they did for me.

but it sounds as though the first hospital that thatguy went to had no clue how to treat for heart attack. His story is missing an important step that they would have taken when looking at him at first.

which step is that?
at brenton medical they rushed me back, started to take my temp and then told me that they didn't take my insurance and sent me on my way. I dont know what other steps they would have taken, but they didn't really take any other than look at my insurance card and make a financial decision.

 

[bcp]

So, you are of the opinion that our medical system is perfect as-is? As long as somebody can get treatment somewhere, somehow (with the rest of us paying for it), no change is needed?

Please don't take the above as any indication that I want the gov't to monkey with MY health care. That thought scares the hell out of me. I'll stick with my mediocre HMO, thanks. It just seems like you don't think there is any problem with the current system at all.

Side-note for all the St. Mary's area folks reading this, don't bother going to Breton medical. Take the bridge to Solomons, you'll thank yourself later.

Oh hell no, the medical system as far as insurance in cost is not perfect.
and yes, I would like to see it more affordable for the needed procedures.
and no, I do not wish to see a citizen of the country go without care.
However, forcing people into a program that has shown around the world to not be as good as what we currently have is not the answer.

the answer is to fix Medicaid and Medicare, if those need to be supplemented by government dollars then so be it.

I do not want the government to have ANY say in my health care, or in my decisions at end of life.

if they cant fix what we have, then how can we ever expect them to create a new program that will work any better?

and for those that claim the rest of the world has better care, answer this.
why do people come to the U.S for care?

I think a great deal of this cost for medications comes from the FDA holding up new drugs instead of allowing them to be used once testing by the manufacturer is complete, or reasonably complete.
I do know of one person specifically that went to Mexico back in the 80s to try a experimental drug for cancer, couldnt get it here because it was not tested to the satisfaction of the FDA. It didnt work, He still died from his cancer, but at least he was able to try.

 

[bcp]

which step is that?
at brenton medical they rushed me back, started to take my temp and then told me that they didn't take my insurance and sent me on my way. I dont know what other steps they would have taken, but they didn't really take any other than look at my insurance card and make a financial decision.

You have grounds for a lawsuit.
I think I will call the med center and ask what their proceedure is if I walk in without health insurance because I think Im having a heart attack.

 

[thatguy]

Neither do I! That would be a dereliction of duty, some kind of violation somewhere. And that other poster would be suing the company in a heartbeat.

maybe you would be sueing them in a heartbeat, but i am not a "plumber" like you must be.
I had choices, i could have screamed bloody murder and had them see me anyway, i could have called 911 from their lobby, i could have done a bunch of things. I accept my responsibility, and the fact that this heart attack was an act of fate.
I'm not blaming brenton medical for making their choice, or for me having a heart attack, I dont see what a logical person would sue over.
I was just relaying my experince because BCP asked for examples of people being refused medical. i even stated that my experience didn't really fit because i did eventually get the medical attention i needed.

 

[bohman]

Oh hell no, the medical system as far as insurance in cost is not perfect.
and yes, I would like to see it more affordable for the needed procedures.
and no, I do not wish to see a citizen of the country go without care.
However, forcing people into a program that has shown around the world to not be as good as what we currently have is not the answer.

the answer is to fix Medicaid and Medicare, if those need to be supplemented by government dollars then so be it.

I do not want the government to have ANY say in my health care, or in my decisions at end of life.

if they cant fix what we have, then how can we ever expect them to create a new program that will work any better?

and for those that claim the rest of the world has better care, answer this.
why do people come to the U.S for care?

I think a great deal of this cost for medications comes from the FDA holding up new drugs instead of allowing them to be used once testing by the manufacturer is complete, or reasonably complete.
I do know of one person specifically that went to Mexico back in the 80s to try a experimental drug for cancer, couldnt get it here because it was not tested to the satisfaction of the FDA. It didnt work, He still died from his cancer, but at least he was able to try.

You know what I envision with gov't health care? So much red tape and paperwork that a whole industry of health care advocates will spring up to help people actually get care. Just like it's advisable to get an accountant to help you with your taxes - you'll need a freakin professional to help you get through the health care process.

 

[EmptyTimCup]

i went to brenton medical when i was having a heart attack and they told me that they wouldn't see me because they didn't take my insurance. /QUOTE]



I have been to Ft Washington ER ... several times


and while cared for, ended up with a bill from the DOCTOR .... that was contracted in, because he did not take My Health Insurance ....


WTF .... if the Facility takes my Insurance the ####ing Doctor bloody well should as well .........

but NO !!!!!!!!! :

 

[EmptyTimCup]

You know what I envision with gov't health care? So much red tape and paperwork that a whole industry of health care advocates will spring up to help people actually get care.

I envision a clinic like in Idiocracy ....


some moron @ the front desk with a bunch of buttons for basic triage ... and no one really being able to help you ....

 

[acommondisaster]

You have grounds for a lawsuit.
I think I will call the med center and ask what their proceedure is if I walk in without health insurance because I think Im having a heart attack.

make sure you ask what happens if you have an insurance they dont take. I'm with you - i think "told me to go away" is the simplified version. I've called urgent care clinics for treatment and asked if they took my insurance and had them tell me "no, but _____ does" and then that's where I went for treatment. I guess I could interpret that as refusing to see me - but to me that would seem inaccurate.