More on that Birth Certificate thing...

PsyOps

Pixelated
Oh-oh, now you've gone and done it... Barnaby Jones, err... I meant PsyOps, his head is gonna explode when he learns that the US Govt is now covering-up for Obama!!! :roflmao:

Well, far be it for me to expect any of you leftnuts to get out of your comfort zone of pointless platitudes and cheap humor to do any real homework. And since you have no argument left you try to divert the discussion off into some never never land of leftwing halfwits.

I'd rather be a Barnaby Jones than a Barney Fife.
 
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Kerad

New Member
Well, far be it for me to expect any of you leftnuts to get out of your comfort zone of pointless platitudes and cheap humor to do any real homework. And since you have no argument left you try to divert the discussion off into some never never land of leftwing halfwits.

I'd rather be a Barnaby Jones than a Barney Fife.

No argument left? There is nothing left to argue.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
This proves nothing. First of all you provided a link in that link called "obamacrimes" that doesn't even contain this quote. So where did you get it first of all. And what is the timeframe? Could it be that it hadn't been entered into the docket yet?

Secondly, it's obviously on the website because I have plugged it several times. And there is not ORDER for BO to produce the BC, it is a request.

If Docket No. 08-570 is not regarding the request for the BC and it has Berg's name on it and it hasn't shown on the USSc website as denied or any other status, then what is this petition for?

It was on the main page when I posted it, but is has since been moved to the older news. Try this:
Rumors of order from the Supreme Court unfounded

Again, this is Philip Berg's official website. I'll trust that over anything else you post because I would expect him to know what is happening with his case better than any blog or news outlet.
 
That will be decided on or around December 1st.


I'll betcha a good beer that I'm right.

Petitions for writ of cert are distributed to the Justices after the window for filing a response has closed (December 1st) or after the respondent files a waiver of their right to respond. They then consider the petition in one of their Friday conferences. Any orders arising from a conference are released the following Monday. In short, the earliest anyone can expect to see a denial or granting of this petition would be December 8th.
 

Kerad

New Member
Petitions for writ of cert are distributed to the Justices after the window for filing a response has closed (December 1st) or after the respondent files a waiver of their right to respond. They then consider the petition in one of their Friday conferences. Any orders arising from a conference are released the following Monday. In short, the earliest anyone can expect to see a denial or granting of this petition would be December 8th.

Okay.

Beer is due on December 8th.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
It was on the main page when I posted it, but is has since been moved to the older news. Try this:
Rumors of order from the Supreme Court unfounded

Again, this is Philip Berg's official website. I'll trust that over anything else you post because I would expect him to know what is happening with his case better than any blog or news outlet.

All this is saying is that Berg has not received a copy of the order, nor is the order posted on the USSC website. However, the case with it's Docket number is posted on the website. I am not well-versed in USSC procedures but I imagine the phase in which the flow of paperwork that would provide the actual order served has not occured yet.

You will also note that on Berg's website there is this:

Philip J. Berg, the attorney who filed suit against Mr. Obama challenging him to produce his original birth certificate to prove he meets the constitutional requirements to serve as U.S. president. Mr. Berg filed a Writ of Certiorari in the U.S. Supreme Court late in October, in an effort to force Mr. Obama to produce the document.

Accordingly, the U.S. Supreme Court has said that Mr. Obama, the DNC and all co-defendants are to respond to the writ, on or before Dec. 1.

Go figure, it matches the date of Docket No. 08-570. Coincidence? It's there on the USSC site. Again, I don't claim to understand the flow of paperwork in and out of the USSC; all I know is the case is on the docket and BO has until Dec 1 to respond, at which point Berg must take further action. What that means exactly I don't know. I have provided the rules (actually Tilted provided them :cheers:) that show there must be merit to the case for the petition to be entered. This is all I know. I am not asserting that it will go anywhere. In fact I have stated several times that I don't think it will go anywhere. I'm just curious about it because it has made it to the USSC. You're making this out to me some sort of crime of whacko vendetta.
 
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PsyOps

Pixelated
The college votes on the 13th.

IF---- Obama is determined to be ineligible by then, would voting for him be an act of treason by an elector?

The electorate would be bound by the Constitution:

Amendment XX:

Section 3… if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

I think in this case Congress would select Biden in his place. If Congress found Biden not to me fit (which I doubt they would), then they would have to select another president.

Technically an elector can vote for whomever they want even if it's against the will of their voters, but they are still bound by the Constitution. If the electorate decides to disregard BO's ineligibility and elect him anyway, I would think the USSC would get involved and deem it unconstitutional.

I would find it impossible to believe Congress would defy the Constitution; but............ :popcorn:
 
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sunmoonstars

New Member
It’s funny that people will yell for the Constitution of the United States to be upheld this and oh my it violates the Constitution, however they are the same ones that have a “JIM CROWE” mentality that violates the Constitution. These are the same people that pick and chose what they will believe in the Bible.
I feel like this, if you want to obey it all, and then give them their 40 acres and a mule, and then we can fuss about a B.C. Because if they are going to enforce that, I have plenty of friends that would love to have the 40acers. Then I will need to buy some from them, however…
We are sad as a people. And half of the people from here went to school with and were friends with black people. However, when you ‘grow up’ and learn to be prejudice all of a sudden you are ‘better than’ someone else. We have a long way to go.....




Berg's website
Obama Crimes[/QUOTE]
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
It’s funny that people will yell for the Constitution of the United States to be upheld this and oh my it violates the Constitution, however they are the same ones that have a “JIM CROWE” mentality that violates the Constitution. These are the same people that pick and chose what they will believe in the Bible.
I feel like this, if you want to obey it all, and then give them their 40 acres and a mule, and then we can fuss about a B.C. Because if they are going to enforce that, I have plenty of friends that would love to have the 40acers. Then I will need to buy some from them, however…
We are sad as a people. And half of the people from here went to school with and were friends with black people. However, when you ‘grow up’ and learn to be prejudice all of a sudden you are ‘better than’ someone else. We have a long way to go.....
:confused: Where in the Constitution does it say anything about 40 acres and/or a mule?
 
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