More on that Birth Certificate thing...

itsbob

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Tilted said:
Furthermore, the code provides that if the issue of lost nationality is in question, the burden for proving such a lose occurred falls on the party alleging that such a lose occurred.
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Which it seems they are trying to do, but without regard, the courts keep throwing the cases out, as the individual bringing the suit is not suffereing harm, and the argument has no value..

I mean, it's JUST the Constitution...
 
aps45819

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Tilted said:
Yeah, I should have said Senate, but I was clear that the resolution did not make him a natural born citizen, it merely recognized that he was one.
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So McCain's eligibility was discussed and certified by his peers,


... and Obama gets a pass :ohwell:
 
SouthernMdRocks

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Tilted said:
That is not true, he could be a natural born citizen even if he was born out of the States. Again, I'm not saying that he is, but he could be. Natural born citizen is not the same as native born citizen. A native born citizen is someone born within United States territory, and thus a citizen by birth by jus soli (i.e. the right of soil). Someone can also be a citizen by birth by jos sanguinis (i.e. the right of blood). Both of those are considered natural born citizens. Although there has never been a specific Supreme Court ruling defining what natural born citizen means for constitutional purposes, U.S. code defines citizens and citizens at birth, with the later being generally regarded as natural born citizens.

If someone had to be born in the States to be a natural born citizen then John McCain would not be a natural born citizen, as he was born outside of the States. Under U.S. Code however, he is a citizen at birth. Congress passed a resolution specifically recognizing that he was indeed a natural born citizen, in which they recognized that some persons born outside of the United States had previously been considered eligible to the Presidency. Ironically, Obama (as well as Clinton) was a sponsor of that resolution. That resolution didn't make John McCain a natural born citizen, it merely recognized that he was one.
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John McCain was born on US territory, both parents US citizens, dad in the military. His being a natural born US citizen should never have been questioned. OB's dad was not a US citizen, if OB was born in Kenya, well, he's not a natural born US citizen.
 
SouthernMdRocks

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BadGirl said:
My son was born in Schweinfurt Germany, in a German hospital on the German economy..

He has a German birth certificate and is eleigible for German citizenship, but the day he was born the German certificate was sent to the US Consulate who in turn issued him a Naturalization Certificate.

He COULD have dual citizenship (as it's allowed by both Germany and the US) but is a natural born US Citizen Born Abroad of US Parents.

:itsbob:
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That is what I have stated about being born abroad, same point made in earlier post. But the US does not acknowledge dual citizenship.
 
awpitt

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SouthernMdRocks said:
That is what I have stated about being born abroad, same point made in earlier post. But the US does not acknowledge dual citizenship.
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Actually, the US does acknowledge dual citizenship up to a certain age (16 or 18). A co-worker of mine had dual citizenship but had to make a choice when he reached that certain age. I can't remember if he said it was 16 or 18.
 
aps45819

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"There is a reasonable and common expectation by the voters that to qualify for the ballot, the individuals running for office must meet minimum qualifications as outlined in the federal and state Constitutions and statutes, and that compliance with those minimum qualifications has been confirmed by the officials overseeing the election process," the complaint said, when in fact the only documentation currently required is a signed statement from the candidate attesting to those qualifications.
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:yikes:
 
chernmax

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Nucklesack said:
Not true, McCain was born in Panama (which is outside the states).
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But both of McCain's parents were US citizens and McCain's Father was under official orders serving in the Military and children born to 2 US Citizens under official military orders are considered Natural Born Citizens period!!!

Not the case for Obama since his mother was considered a minor and his Father was a citizen of Kenya. And even Obama admits he held duel citizenship (US/Kenya) which is not illegal. The US does not recognize duel citizenship but Kenya does. So the US only considered him a US citizen, however upon reaching his 18th birthday, Obama had a choice to renounce his US citizenship and he could have become a full Kenya citizen which he chose not to thus his Kenya citizenship was no longer valid. Smart move considering what a sh*t hole Kenya is anyway!!!

His Indonesian citizenship is a whole different issue???
 
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SouthernMdRocks

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awpitt said:
Actually, the US does acknowledge dual citizenship up to a certain age (16 or 18). A co-worker of mine had dual citizenship but had to make a choice when he reached that certain age. I can't remember if he said it was 16 or 18.
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I don't think it's that it is recognized up to that age. One just has to make the choice by that age one way or the other. I believe it is 18 yo.
 
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i noticed nobody posted any asinine drivel ever since i posted the law of the land :coffee:
 
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