More on that Birth Certificate thing...
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aps45819
24/7 Single Dad
That's what Alan Keys' suit is about. He wants the California SOS to certify eligibility prior to allow the electors to vote.
So them confirming they had the original BC means he was born in Kenya? Just because they didn't say he was born in Hawaii (when the question appeared to be if they had his BC on file)?
Okay then.
Read very slowly, so you can understand.
NO, they didn't say he was born in Hawaii OR Kenya. The article claims they said that & they didn't. That's bias.
You present this article as if it proves some point. It doesn't.
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Beaver-Cleaver
Guest
You human skin tag, since when are the LA Times, Politifact.com and the Hawaii Department of Health finders of legal fact of federal law?
You kill me
Obama has released his COLB to the LA Times. Politifact.com has several other documents that prove Barack Obama is, in fact, Barack Obama. And the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed his BC exists but state law prohibits them from releasing it to the media.
What's next? Obama didn't personally reply to an email from the kooks at WorldNetDaily so he isn't a real person?
awpitt
Main Streeter
I thought the Berg case came from a federal court in PA. As far as NJ, I think that would only impact NJ but it would definately get national attention if any state supreme court ruled Obama ineligible.
Pete
Repete
Obama has released his COLB to the LA Times. Politifact.com has several other documents that prove Barack Obama is, in fact, Barack Obama. And the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed his BC exists but state law prohibits them from releasing it to the media.
What's next? Obama didn't personally reply to an email from the kooks at WorldNetDaily so he isn't a real person?
OK one more time really slow.
The LA Times is an incorporated business that is not a finder of legal fact nor are they a court.
Politifact.com is a cheesy intardweb site and they are nor a legal finder of fact or are they a court.
The Hawaii Dept. of Health is a governmental filing cabinet that looks in an old dusty file and says "Yup, there is a paper here with Obama's name on it . They do not find fact either.
Saying that the LA Times has seen his COLB and it is good enough for them is like going to the counter help at the local Dunkin Donuts and asking them to decide on your upcoming court case.
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awpitt
Main Streeter
...but what I was saying is that any one of the 50 SOSs could've refused to certify Obama as a candidate in the first place before the campaign got started. It would've taken only one GOP SOS to cause a stink and the BC issue could've been dealt with way before we got to this point.
aps45819
24/7 Single Dad
where did you get this $800,000 figure?
you pull this out of your ass or a rightie blog report this?
Who Cares what the exact figure was :shrug:
The point is it could have been over for, as you yourself claim, $20
aps45819
24/7 Single Dad
My understandig of the Keys case is that unless some outside party claims a reason to investigate, the SOS isn't compelled (or authorized) to act.
It seems like nobody is authorized to check out tha basic items of someon's past. Until now, this has been the press's job, which they have failed.
Tilted
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SCOTUS has pretty broad discetion and could do any number of things IF they decided to grant Berg's petition. One of those things would be to overturn the lower court's dismissal and remand it to them to hear the case. They might also decide, after considering the merits of the case, not to do anything and allow the lower court's dismissal to stand. They could also rule on the actual case themselves, or give legal guidance on specific aspects of it.
The application by Donofrio (which is the one that originated in NJ) is a request to grant a stay prohibiting the NJ SOS from taking certain actions (I believe certifying the electors). In that case, the Court will either grant the stay or not grant it. Technically, there isn't a case to refer back to the lower court, because Donofrio hasn't even bothered to ask the Court to review a lower decision yet. It's pretty unusual - he should have filed a petition asking them to review the case which formed the basis on which he is asking for a stay.
Lenny
Lovin' being Texican
beaver-cleaver is yet another ironic user name, right?
As in 'He's finally plowed that furrow," is that what you're getting at? We know Andy is still technically a virgin (we can't count that pig deal on the Fight Club as 'losing it.')
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Lenny
Lovin' being Texican
Andy, Andy, Andy....
...did you miss the earlier post were we showed the LA Times' COLB?
Obama has released his COLB to the LA Times. Politifact.com has several other documents that prove Barack Obama is, in fact, Barack Obama. And the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed his BC exists but state law prohibits them from releasing it to the media.
What's next? Obama didn't personally reply to an email from the kooks at WorldNetDaily so he isn't a real person?
...did you miss the earlier post were we showed the LA Times' COLB?
awpitt
Main Streeter
It worked last night but the article is a month old so it may have expired or something since we're in Dec now.
The Oyster Guy
New Member
Israel Insider.com - Now *there's* an authoritative source!
Where's FoxNews? Where's Bill O'Reilly? (after all, PsyOps notified O'Reilly *weeks* ago about this BC coverup).
Honestly, you folks need to return to the mothership immediately... SusanConstant has new instructions for you. Nannu-nannu.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
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We WANT answers, damn it!!!!
Israel Insider.com - Now *there's* an authoritative source!
Where's FoxNews? Where's Bill O'Reilly? (after all, PsyOps notified O'Reilly *weeks* ago about this BC coverup).
Honestly, you folks need to return to the mothership immediately... SusanConstant has new instructions for you. Nannu-nannu.
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We WANT answers, damn it!!!!
nhboy
Ubi bene ibi patria
Here's another nutcase to go along with the rest of you clowns.
"Kentucky is a red state with no shortage of conspiracy theorists and unusual politics, so it's no surprise that what might be the first post-election court challenge to Barack Obama's qualifications to be president comes from a Whitley County truck driver.
Daniel John Essek, 47, filed a demand last week that Obama prove he is a natural-born U.S. citizen — one of the few requirements to run for president."
"Essek said in the motion that he is founder of the Society for Liberty and Prosperity. Last week he said the society had no members but had scheduled an organizational meeting Saturday night at his home just north of the Tennessee line, has set up a Web site and is seeking members and donors.
Essek is president of the group. His wife, Donna, is treasurer.
Essek wants to use the society to teach citizenship and correct what he considers Americans' woeful lack of civic education and awareness. Some people can't identify the president, vice president and secretary of state, he said.
"I'm seeing a level of ignorance out there like you wouldn't believe," Essek said."
Lexington News - Kentucky News | Lexington Herald-Leader
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"Kentucky is a red state with no shortage of conspiracy theorists and unusual politics, so it's no surprise that what might be the first post-election court challenge to Barack Obama's qualifications to be president comes from a Whitley County truck driver.
Daniel John Essek, 47, filed a demand last week that Obama prove he is a natural-born U.S. citizen — one of the few requirements to run for president."
"Essek said in the motion that he is founder of the Society for Liberty and Prosperity. Last week he said the society had no members but had scheduled an organizational meeting Saturday night at his home just north of the Tennessee line, has set up a Web site and is seeking members and donors.
Essek is president of the group. His wife, Donna, is treasurer.
Essek wants to use the society to teach citizenship and correct what he considers Americans' woeful lack of civic education and awareness. Some people can't identify the president, vice president and secretary of state, he said.
"I'm seeing a level of ignorance out there like you wouldn't believe," Essek said."
Lexington News - Kentucky News | Lexington Herald-Leader
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