Motorcycling Maturity

Pete

Repete
I've read that the rider turns his or her bike directly into 85% of motorcyle accidents.

This is generally because they stare at what they are trying to avoid and forget rule 1 of steering a bike "Look where you want to go".
 

glhs837

Power with Control
I'm from Southern California! Swerving with out sliding is always better option as long as you know which way to turn the handle bars.
And when a car jumps out in front of you, you will turn the handle bars.
I've read that the rider turns his or her bike directly into 85% of motorcyle accidents.
My point is.. with cell phones and text messaging on top of all the other drivers distractions. Learn how to ride in the dirt because the only way you're going to learn how to fully control a motorcycle is practice, practice, practice.
To many people want to skip the learning from experience..Oh I took a class and read a book. :dork:


Thank you. I agree, training is crucial, becuase when it goes to hell, you got no time to figure it out on the fly. I think you can learn these things without being an accomplished dirt rider, you say not, we'll just have to disagree on that point.

I do practice, every time I ride or drive. While I know how to take my vehicles to the limits, I haven't had to in everyday driving, becuase I plan for them to do exactly the wrong thing, and am already planning for it. While I know what my cars ABS and stability systems will do under all conditions, I have never had to dig so deep as to engage them to avoid anyone.

Lucky? Maybe. Maybe chance favors the prepared mind.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Thank you. I agree, training is crucial, becuase when it goes to hell, you got no time to figure it out on the fly. I think you can learn these things without being an accomplished dirt rider, you say not, we'll just have to disagree on that point.

I do practice, every time I ride or drive. While I know how to take my vehicles to the limits, I haven't had to in everyday driving, becuase I plan for them to do exactly the wrong thing, and am already planning for it. While I know what my cars ABS and stability systems will do under all conditions, I have never had to dig so deep as to engage them to avoid anyone.

Lucky? Maybe. Maybe chance favors the prepared mind.

Careful. You might be jinxing yourself and we'll be reading about you next week.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Once you break rear wheel traction you're no longer in control..Exactly!

You don't think the bike is going to be sliding when you got the brakes locked down through a hot oiley intersection.
You don't think you're going to slide that puppy sideways when you know you can't stop in time. :crazy:

Trust me you're going to pull out every trick in the book to keep from hitting that car



If you've never came across this situation.

A..You've been very lucky
B..You've been very lucky
C.. You've been very lucky and or you don't ride very much.
D. You have a modern bike with integrated ABS, maybe even ESA and Traction Control.

Just because you've been lucky all these years don't mean sheot.
I've known plenty of first year riders to slide there bikes right under cars and trucks that blocked there path in an oiley intersection.

:fixed:
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Could be. Wouldnt ever say I wont ever crash again. I've had a couple of get offs, two or three parking lot at speeds, one at about 35, my own fault, all of them. Sometimes there is NO way out.
 

gumbo

FIGHT CLUB !
...HELL!!!

OK, how many times you lay it down on the street and/or been in accidents?

A buddy of mine up here has 10,000 incident free miles and I was impressed as hell with that!!!

Up until 1996 I put over 10,000 miles on my bike a year.

An accident can happen at anytime to anyone.

I've been across one hood and slid into a couple curbs to avoid hitting cars. All in my younger years, between 16 and 20.
No broke bones, no ambulance rides.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
See...

I did that riding on the ball field behind the Black Eyed Susan bar in Callaway during a Toys for Tots event.

BIG audience :ohwell:

Bike went down, I rolled then came up on my feet and received applause for my dismount :lol:

...I have a theory about that; There are those who are lucky and/or have great reflexes and body control and there are those that used to ride. :lmao:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
There's...

Could be. Wouldnt ever say I wont ever crash again. I've had a couple of get offs, two or three parking lot at speeds, one at about 35, my own fault, all of them. Sometimes there is NO way out.

...ALWAYS a way out. Some are softer than others. :lmao:

I love that "...a couple of get offs..."
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
...I have a theory about that; There are those who are lucky and/or have great reflexes and body control and there are those that used to ride. :lmao:

That was 20 years ago.
Today I'd probably be eating grass
(which is one reason I wear a full face helmet)
 

glhs837

Power with Control
...ALWAYS a way out. Some are softer than others. :lmao:

I love that "...a couple of get offs..."

Touche'


Yeah, I taught myself how to ride initally, we knew nobody who rode, and there was no such things as classes, not in 1981, in MA, that I knew of. The first day, bringing the bike back up into the yard from the side street I was practicing on, it was like a ramp, the grass led up from street level to the sidewalk. about a foot rise in maybe a foot. Didya know your throttle hand might twist back under such a circumstance? :howdy:


Kinda launched the bike out from under me:) Another time maybe a year later, in CA, I was in a parking lot, as I gave it throttle to take off as I turned out of the spot it was in, and the back tire hit a patch of sand, bike spun out from under me. Thats why I call them get offs:) I kinda just got off while the bikes went down. :lmao:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Classic!

Touche'


Yeah, I taught myself how to ride initally, we knew nobody who rode, and there was no such things as classes, not in 1981, in MA, that I knew of. The first day, bringing the bike back up into the yard from the side street I was practicing on, it was like a ramp, the grass led up from street level to the sidewalk. about a foot rise in maybe a foot. Didya know your throttle hand might twist back under such a circumstance? :howdy:


Kinda launched the bike out from under me:) Another time maybe a year later, in CA, I was in a parking lot, as I gave it throttle to take off as I turned out of the spot it was in, and the back tire hit a patch of sand, bike spun out from under me. Thats why I call them get offs:) I kinda just got off while the bikes went down. :lmao:


:lmao:


Good stuff! (when you don't get hurt)
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Some good examples of "flickability" here, some spectacular offs, and what was that again about sliding the rear = loss of control?
YouTube - Moto GP Nickelback - Animals
Moto GP, THE race.
Ed

I watched that video at lunch.. I REALLY shouldn't have.

I've been being soooo good on the bike. Chillaxin on the rides.. no hard starts and stops.. nothing over about 5k on the Tach..

THEN I watch the video.. and then i head back to work on the bike...

Yep, bounced off the rev-limiter a couple of times (but only in 1st and 2nd).. almost drug a knee through a couple of corners..


but you should have seen me before I got on base ...
 

BadGirl

I am so very blessed
I watched that video at lunch.. I REALLY shouldn't have.

I've been being soooo good on the bike. Chillaxin on the rides.. no hard starts and stops.. nothing over about 5k on the Tach..

THEN I watch the video.. and then i head back to work on the bike...

Yep, bounced off the rev-limiter a couple of times (but only in 1st and 2nd).. almost drug a knee through a couple of corners..


but you should have seen me before I got on base ...
What's this you say? :tap:

I'm picking up additional life insurance on your butt, Bob. If you go because of your stupid antics, I need to be assured of a big payout. And I mean B-I-G!

Not that I want that to happen, of course. :love:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
The delima...

What's this you say? :tap:

I'm picking up additional life insurance on your butt, Bob. If you go because of your stupid antics, I need to be assured of a big payout. And I mean B-I-G!

Not that I want that to happen, of course. :love:

...is that you don't want him just being a vegetable via some minor screw up. If he's gonna go, may as well do it BIG so you only have one set of diapers to change. :lmao:

Tell him you want him to be the BESTEST crazy biker and not some 1/2 ass-ed bail out specialist. :lmao:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
...is that you don't want him just being a vegetable via some minor screw up. If he's gonna go, may as well do it BIG so you only have one set of diapers to change. :lmao:

Tell him you want him to be the BESTEST crazy biker and not some 1/2 ass-ed bail out specialist. :lmao:

Just have to drive faster than the speed of pain.
 
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