AnthonyJames
R.I.P. My Brother Rick
The 'Dans' has a nice ring to it.
Name change?
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
Dan-Skins.
A Wash Times sports reporter has long referred to the team as the "Snydermen".
AnthonyJames
R.I.P. My Brother Rick
Dan-Skins.
A Wash Times sports reporter has long referred to the team as the "Snydermen".
Here's some cool helmets to chose from!
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seasonsofwither
New Member
Change the name because Bob Costas said to! Bob Costas is a disgrace to all people who wear toupees...how ya like that, Bob? Are you offended now, huh? Figgin idiot, that man.
luvmygdaughters
Well-Known Member
After watching the movie "Tombstone" I'm offended by the term "Cowboys". They were a bunch of murdering thieves riding around with red sashes. Therefore, I would like to have the name of the Dallas "Cowboys" changed, as I am offended by it. 
Larry Gude
Strung Out
After watching the movie "Tombstone" I'm offended by the term "Cowboys". They were a bunch of murdering thieves riding around with red sashes. Therefore, I would like to have the name of the Dallas "Cowboys" changed, as I am offended by it.
That's different. Simply changing the name won't make cowboys, whatever the new name, better people. Whereas if the redskins change our name we will still suck but, we will be better people for it.
Dondi
Dondi
If it ever becomes inevitable that the name needs to be changed, I'd rather have see it all changed, without any reference to Native Americans at all. I'd rather not have them try to shoehorn some other related name like the Warriors or Braves. Change the name, change the logo, change the colors to something other than burgandy and gold. Just have a completely new mascot altogether. With 81 years of history, the Redskins deserve a descent burial.
AND as a matter of principle and protest, if they do change the team name, regardless of how they do it, I will no longer be a Washington fan. In fact, I will not even be a fan for any other team in the NFC East. I'll jump on some other bandwagon (and no, it won't be the Ravens, either).
AND as a matter of principle and protest, if they do change the team name, regardless of how they do it, I will no longer be a Washington fan. In fact, I will not even be a fan for any other team in the NFC East. I'll jump on some other bandwagon (and no, it won't be the Ravens, either).
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SoMD_Fun_Guy
Do you like apples?
Actually, I find Washington Redskins offensive.
They don't even play in Washington. Officially, FedEx Field is in Landover so take that no-good, lazy, chitty "Washington" out of the name, and call them the Landover Redskins.
They don't even play in Washington. Officially, FedEx Field is in Landover so take that no-good, lazy, chitty "Washington" out of the name, and call them the Landover Redskins.
Dondi
Dondi
Actually, I find Washington Redskins offensive.
They don't even play in Washington. Officially, FedEx Field is in Landover so take that no-good, lazy, chitty "Washington" out of the name, and call them the Landover Redskins.
Careful, that's too close to Landover Baptists, Then I'll be offended.
migtig
aka Mrs. Giant
Did you all read Mamatutu's link? Armed with facts, it's not racist and the name and image should remain. We, the people, need to stop the PC insanity. The ones calling foul the loudest aren't even Native American.
Excerpt from her link:
Boston Braves owner George Preston Marshall decided in 1933 to change the franchise's name from the Braves (another name with a racial history) to the Redskins. Team lore says the franchise adopted the name in honor of former coach William "Lone Star" Dietz, who identified as Native American. Dietz brought several Native American players he had coached at the Haskell Indian School with him to the team. Marshall also sought to strongly tie the team to Native American imagery, occasionally requiring Dietz to wear a Sioux headdress on the sidelines and telling players to wear war paint while on the field.
The cover of the St. Louis Globe-Democrat Sunday supplement from January 1908 shows William "Lone Star" Dietz, who in 1916 coached Washington State University to a Rose Bowl victory, in full Indian dress. Some credit Dietz with inspiring the name of the Redskins.
Five years later, the team unveiled its fight song, "Hail to the Redskins," with lyrics written by Marshall's wife, actress Corinne Griffith. The original lyrics to the song included both references to scalping and pidgin English, with the line "Scalp 'em, swamp 'em — we will take 'em big score / Read 'em, weep 'em, touchdown! — we want heap more!"
Excerpt from her link:
Boston Braves owner George Preston Marshall decided in 1933 to change the franchise's name from the Braves (another name with a racial history) to the Redskins. Team lore says the franchise adopted the name in honor of former coach William "Lone Star" Dietz, who identified as Native American. Dietz brought several Native American players he had coached at the Haskell Indian School with him to the team. Marshall also sought to strongly tie the team to Native American imagery, occasionally requiring Dietz to wear a Sioux headdress on the sidelines and telling players to wear war paint while on the field.
The cover of the St. Louis Globe-Democrat Sunday supplement from January 1908 shows William "Lone Star" Dietz, who in 1916 coached Washington State University to a Rose Bowl victory, in full Indian dress. Some credit Dietz with inspiring the name of the Redskins.
Five years later, the team unveiled its fight song, "Hail to the Redskins," with lyrics written by Marshall's wife, actress Corinne Griffith. The original lyrics to the song included both references to scalping and pidgin English, with the line "Scalp 'em, swamp 'em — we will take 'em big score / Read 'em, weep 'em, touchdown! — we want heap more!"
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
Origianl lyrics;
..."Fight! For old...Dix-eeeee!!!"
Nothing racist here. Old Dixie, as everyone knows, is code for a time of happiness and plenty for all.
migtig
aka Mrs. Giant
Where's the racism in the word "old"? Seriously, the ignorance is overwhelming today.
I sang this song as kid in chorus. I still sing it as an adult doing chores. Not once, am I being racist or thinking racist thoughts.
I wish I was in the land of cotton,
Old times there are not forgotten;
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
In Dixie's Land where I was born in,
Early on one frosty morning,
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
(Chorus)
Then I wish I was in Dixie! Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie's Land I'll take my stand, to live and die in Dixie!
Away! Away! Away down South in Dixie!
Away! Away! Away down South in Dixie!
Old Missus married "Will the Weaver";
William was a gay deceiver!
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
But when he put his arm around her,
Smiled as fierce as a forty-pounder!
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
(Chorus)
His face was sharp as a butcher's cleaver;
But that did not seem to grieve her!
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
Old Missus acted the foolish part
And died for a man that broke her heart!
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
(Chorus)
Now here's a health to the next old missus
And all the gals that want to kiss us!
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
But if you want to drive away sorrow,
Come and hear this song tomorrow!
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
(Chorus)
There's buckwheat cakes and Injin batter,
Makes you fat or a little fatter!
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
Then hoe it down and scratch your gravel,
To Dixie's Land I'm bound to travel!
Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
(Chorus)
luvmygdaughters
Well-Known Member
Does anybody remember the movie "Song of the South". I tried to order it to have at my house for my grandkids. I couldnt find it on the Disney website. The movie was outlawed from being distributed because, according to some political group, it portrayed black people in a negative light. REALLY!! Has anybody seen the movie? Its just the opposite. I finally got it from ebay, I think, but it had to be purchased from a place in England. This may be totally off topic, but, it just reminded me of how stupid this whole PC bs is. I dont care if you're offended by the name or not, dont buy any merchandise, dont watch the games, you have that choice. Just because you'e offended, doesnt mean you can do anything about it, theres no law to protect you from being offended! Get the hell over it. I get offended at least a dozen times a day, somebody wears a bright yellow shirt...offensive, somebody wears too much perfume...offensive, somebody has bad breath but is a close talker...offensive, somebody forgets to use deoderant...offensive, you dont hold the door open...offensive, Get my drift?
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SoMD_Fun_Guy
Do you like apples?
Exactly. It really just comes down to one simple thing: Intent.
What is the intent of the name "Redskins"?
Is the name being used in such a manner as to cause harm?
Was the intention or purpose to be disrespectful or bring ill-will?
I believe that the answer is "No" to both questions.
Society is too stuck on this political correctness concept that the rights of a select few begin to outweigh the rights of all the others. We live in a chicken-sh!t society today that is too scared of what might happen.
Whatever happened to common sense?
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
That has nothing to do with the Redskins fight song.
thurley42
HY;FR
It will never end...after this they will find something else they are upset about to go after....go after crap that matters, like our country going down the toilet....
The tolerant crowd is only tolerant when you agree with them....
In summary....I hate people, they can all KMA.
and I don't even like the Redskins...
The tolerant crowd is only tolerant when you agree with them....
In summary....I hate people, they can all KMA.
and I don't even like the Redskins...
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