NASCAR Safety Innovations - WATCH THIS!

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Now if they would just go back to racing stock cars as advertised.

I'd rather see the drivers get out of the car alive and uninjured.

I love me some old school racing, but if you're NASCAR, you do not want to see someone lose their life in a racecar. You want there to be a 100% chance of the driver living to see another race.

They have, evidently, done just that.

I'd rather wreck in one of those than in some of these piece of chit cars they sell with a "5 star rating."

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

McDowell Interview


Michael McDowell spoke to SPEED after his wreck in what was one of the most anticipated interviews in motorsports. This young man knows it - he's damn lucky to be alive after that.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Michael McDowell on NBC NEWS TODAY

I'm going to try to get in the headlines by good race results. I told NASCAR, 'I'm done being the crash-test dummy.' We're going to let someone else do it from here on out.

NASCAR rookie walks away from horrific crash - People: Tales of survival - MSNBC.com

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I still can't believe it...

In fact, I'm gonna repeat what I heard D.W. say a few years ago.

HAVE YOU EVER?

 

[toppick08]

Memphis 1994.......NHRA..

 

[LordStanley]

He sure didnt walk in a straight line. Looks like he has whiskey leg too


What grade concussion did he recieve?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

What grade concussion did he recieve?

None.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

He sure didnt walk in a straight line.

Track's banked. At TMS, so is the apron.

 

[nachomama]

Track's banked. At TMS, so is the apron.

Not to mention the fact that he had just struct a wall, almost head on, at 180mph and done about 8 barrell rolls.

I think I'd be a little woozy. :shrug:

 

[LordStanley]

Not to mention the fact that he had just struct a wall, almost head on, at 180mph and done about 8 barrell rolls.

I think I'd be a little woozy. :shrug:

Thats what I meant... I find it hard to believe there was no consussion.

His head may not have move, but I bet his brain did some barrell rolls too.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Thats what I meant... I find it hard to believe there was no consussion.

His head may not have move, but I bet his brain did some barrell rolls too.

If he had recieved a concussion, he would've been pulled from the race.

 

[Michael Delaney]

Uhmmmmm, the HANS device is not a NASCAR safety innovation...
HANS device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Say what you want, NASCAR's safety innovations just saved that young man's life.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Uhmmmmm, the HANS device is not a NASCAR safety innovation...
HANS device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What about that SAFER barrier and that Car of Tomorrow? I'm assuming F1 created and mandated use of the COT?

Oh wait, that's right. They race cars that weigh half as much with tires that are twice as wide, and race fewer than half the races as Sprint Cup running half the distance in each race.

 

[Michael Delaney]

Another pointless comment from Andy Marquis.
You had pointed out that NASCAR innovations saved that guys life. The HANS Device is not a NASCAR innovation, and neither are the safer barriers. They are just used by NASCAR.

What about that SAFER barrier and that Car of Tomorrow? I'm assuming F1 created and mandated use of the COT?

Oh wait, that's right. They race cars that weigh half as much with tires that are twice as wide, and race fewer than half the races as Sprint Cup running half the distance in each race.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Another pointless comment from Andy Marquis.
You had pointed out that NASCAR innovations saved that guys life. The HANS Device is not a NASCAR innovation, and neither are the safer barriers. They are just used and mandated by NASCAR.

No comment on the Car of Tomorrow I see? EVERY NASCAR Sprint Cup racetrack has implemented the SAFER barriers. Indianapolis was the first, but I don't see all the F1 tracks implementing them as quick as they can.

Brett Bodine (or is it Geoff) was part of the HANS R&D. He was also the loudest proponent to bringing it to NASCAR and other racing divisions. In fact, I think Brett was using it in his racecar before any of the F1 drivers were.

No mention either of how NASCAR funds research for these safety innovations either?

Oh, did you forget to mention that the COT was designed by NASCAR. Because it seems to me you think only the HANS device saved his life. Do you think he would've survived that wreck had he been in an open wheel car or in a 2004 Pontiac Gran Am. Yeah, doubt it.

Perhaps maybe you should test that theory out.

 

[Michael Delaney]

Again, more pointless remarks by Andy Marquis.
Basilar skull fracture was the cause of death in many of the more recent auto racing accidents, so yes I would say that the HANS device was probably the largest contributer to the driver living through that accident.

Perhaps you should check out Robert Kubica's crash if you don't think F1 cars are safe.
Robert Kubica crash Montreal 2007 by Rowan
He was back in a race car two weeks later.
Safer barriers are primarily an oval track utilized device. You will not see them used at Watkins Glen when NASCAR is there. They were also developed with Indy Cars in mind.
I never said a thing about the COT not being safer than the previous NASCARS. I don't get what you are saying, the COT is NASCAR.
Also, Did you read the Wikipedia attachment? The HANS device was brought about due to a multitude of accidents and yes, was in fact mandated in F1 before NASCAR, however IMSA and CART used it first.

No comment on the Car of Tomorrow I see? EVERY NASCAR Sprint Cup racetrack has implemented the SAFER barriers. Indianapolis was the first, but I don't see all the F1 tracks implementing them as quick as they can.

Brett Bodine (or is it Geoff) was part of the HANS R&D. He was also the loudest proponent to bringing it to NASCAR and other racing divisions. In fact, I think Brett was using it in his racecar before any of the F1 drivers were.

No mention either of how NASCAR funds research for these safety innovations either?

Oh, did you forget to mention that the COT was designed by NASCAR. Because it seems to me you think only the HANS device saved his life. Do you think he would've survived that wreck had he been in an open wheel car or in a 2004 Pontiac Gran Am. Yeah, doubt it.

Perhaps maybe you should test that theory out.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Again, more pointless remarks by Andy Marquis.
Basilar skull fracture was the cause of death in many of the more recent auto racing accidents, so yes I would say that the HANS device was probably the largest contributer to the driver living through that accident.

Perhaps you should check out Robert Kubica's crash if you don't think F1 cars are safe.
Robert Kubica crash Montreal 2007 by Rowan
He was back in a race car two weeks later.
Safer barriers are primarily an oval track utilized device. You will not see them used at Watkins Glen when NASCAR is there. They were also developed with Indy Cars in mind.
I never said a thing about the COT not being safer than the previous NASCARS. I don't get what you are saying, the COT is NASCAR.
Also, Did you read the Wikipedia attachment? The HANS device was brought about due to a multitude of accidents and yes, was in fact mandated in F1 before NASCAR, however IMSA and CART used it first.

So, you're going to take an F1 car and slam into the wall at 187mph to prove open wheel cars are just as safe?

It's not just about death, it's also about injuries.

Jerry Nadeau, Sterling Marlin. Their near fatal accidents occoured AFTER the HANS device was mandated, and they were hospitalized for a long time.

Michael McDowell walked away with no injury. He wasn't hospitalized or anything. That probably would not have happened in the 2007 Sprint Cup racecar (flashback David Reutimann, California 2007,;Tony Stewart, Charlotte 2006).

Alive is always good. Uninjured and walking away is even better.

So, Michael, you going to partake in my experiment.

Perhaps maybe you should put on a HANS device in your street car, wreck it into a pole on 488 doing 60 mph and report back to me with the results.

 

[Michael Delaney]

This is what you said Andy:
"Say what you want, NASCAR's safety innovations just saved that young man's life."
Yes, I agree that other inovations helped save that guy from injuries, but the HANS device is probably what saved his life.

F1 cars regulary run at speeds past 220 mph, and yes they do have many accidents which drivers walk away from. An F1 driver has not perished since the death of Ayrton Senna in 1994.
Also, unlike you, I am a licensed racer, and a very experienced High Performance Driver, utilizing my skill at venues, such as VIR, Summit Point, and I have in fact even driven the Nordschleife.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Also, unlike you, I am a licensed racer, and a very experienced High Performance Driver, utilizing my skill at venues, such as VIR, Summit Point, and I have in fact even driven the Nordschleife.

So you have videotape of the last accident you had at 187mph, right?

You don't have to be a racecar driver to know it all. I work with racecar drivers all the time. I have relationships with drivers and teams dating back to 2003. I've had the privlidge of meeting and interviewing a good few quality racecar drivers that go a hell of a lot faster than you do. You can learn quite a bit from the pros you know. I'm not some little kid running off my mouth on something.

 

[Michael Delaney]

I have never raced a car to 187mph. I have never driven a car faster than 120mph on a race track. The fact is, I have raced cars/karts on road courses and you haven't.
I have been involved in auto racing as a driver, pit crew and as a fan for many years beyond you Andy. Most auto racing experts are typically race car drivers.

Gesh Andy, my initial comment was only that the HANS device is not a NASCAR inovation.