New law for those of us with historic tags

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Is a Chevy Chevette "historic"? As a driving machine, its an abominable piece of excrement. As an engineering exercise, it's a hideous pile of vomit. But seen as a time capsule of the American auto industry at that point in time, it's invaluable. Every car has it's relevance, and everyone is going to judge that relevance.


:yay:


I had an 80 Chevette .... low cost daily driver



:lmao:

how about a Yugo !!!
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The 1983 Ford Econoline van we have at work that has a hole rusted into the floor so big you can see the road rushing by should not be considered antique, but maybe historic.



would you have considered a 1952 Ford F-1 Panel Truck in 1982 ?

if would have been 30 yrs old at that point



a 1972 Chevelle SS 454 - in 1982 it would have only been a 20 yr old used junker
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
I am more advocating that Maryland brings registration fees more realistic and not make them so expensive. If they would, then I can tell you at least seven trailers that will start wearing Maryland registration, instead of wearing tags from a state they will probably never see.

I agree. Probably wouldn't be much Historic tag abuse if regular tags were affordable.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
I agree. Probably wouldn't be much Historic tag abuse if regular tags were affordable.

Facing $1500 in repairs to get the $1000 clunker through inspection is the main driver behind the improper use of Historic tags..I'd bet my lunch money on that. Heck, it cost me over $500 to get my parent's well-maintained and clean-looking 2000 Grand Cherokee through MD inspection. It had always passed VA inspection easily every year.
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
would you have considered a 1952 Ford F-1 Panel Truck in 1982 ?

if would have been 30 yrs old at that point



a 1972 Chevelle SS 454 - in 1982 it would have only been a 20 yr old used junker

The 54 Ford panel truck definately, the 20 year old Chevelle (in 1992 btw) borderline. But as stated previously cars started lasting longer and longer, the late 70's seems to be the point when the longevity started increasing fairly rapidly.

In 1992 you saw far less 1962 autos than you see 1986 autos today in 2006. I see quite a few 80's junkers running around in our parking lot at work. I work with someone who (daily) drives a 1994 S-10 with historic plates.

My sticking point is that people pay less for the registration just because the vehicle is 20 years old, and that is bull####.
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
Facing $1500 in repairs to get the $1000 clunker through inspection is the main driver behind the improper use of Historic tags..I'd bet my lunch money on that. Heck, it cost me over $500 to get my parent's well-maintained and clean-looking 2000 Grand Cherokee through MD inspection. It had always passed VA inspection easily every year.

In 2000 it cost me over $400 to get my 1994 Chevy Corsica through MD inspection that just passed another states yearly inspection two months earlier.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
the 20 year old Chevelle (in 1992 btw) borderline.

:doh:

In 1992 you saw far less 1962 autos than you see 1986 autos today in 2006. I see quite a few 80's junkers running around in our parking lot at work. I work with someone who (daily) drives a 1994 S-10 with historic plates.

My sticking point is that people pay less for the registration just because the vehicle is 20 years old, and that is bull####.


my only reasoning would be to avoid the stupid emissions testing ..... damn 1995 Saturn had to go back 3 times
it squeaked by on 2 points the last time - and no one really understands ODB I and what to do, if they cannot plug a code scanner into it
 
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my only reasoning would be to avoid the stupid emissions testing ..... damn 1995 Saturn had to go back 3 times
it squeaked by on 2 points the last time - and no one really understands ODB I and what to do, if they cannot plug a code scanner into it

Live in St. Mary's and you don't have to worry about Emissions!
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
Facing $1500 in repairs to get the $1000 clunker through inspection is the main driver behind the improper use of Historic tags..I'd bet my lunch money on that. Heck, it cost me over $500 to get my parent's well-maintained and clean-looking 2000 Grand Cherokee through MD inspection. It had always passed VA inspection easily every year.

It was part of that for me.

The truck had 190,000 miles on it and the trans was slipping in and out of overdrive. I had recently rebuilt motor laying around the shop so I decided to drop the $1,000 to rebuilt the trans in a truck worth $1,500. Unfortunately, emissions caught up to me before I could finish the project. The day before my emissions was due I went to the MVA, got historic tags. Few weeks later I dropped the new motor and trans in at the same time.

It's a bone stock 95 S-10 (now with less than 400 miles on the motor and 30 miles on the trans) and I have no problem paying less for it just because it's 20+ years old. I drive it like 3 miles every couple of weeks and I followed the law.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
:yay:


I had an 80 Chevette .... low cost daily driver



:lmao:

how about a Yugo !!!



Buddy in my shop in 1988 had a the new super modern 1500, trans had an issue and the dealership couldnt source the new tool for three weeks. They gave him a Yugo. We had great fun mocking the crap out of him. Last day, he had me drive it about 10 miles....... that thing was a hoot. Shift lever three feet long, took 1/2 mile to get up to speed.
 

lovinmaryland

Well-Known Member
But what criteria and checklists would they use? My '27 Dodge didn't have even a quarter of the equipment listed on a standard safety inspection, as just an example.

On the other hand, I agree that using that tag class solely to put some late 80s junker on the road is wrong. I have several 70s vehicles that I never considered putting Historical tags on because I thought the "limited use" rules were real. I guess they are saying "now they are real".

Unfortunately people abused it so the people who legit needed it are screwed. I can tell you I have seen first hand the abuse. People who get temp tags go to get it MD inspected...of course it does not pass and there is a ton of $$$ repairs to get it to pass...so they go right back to mva and say I'd like to apply for historic tags...mva says now you know this is only for weekend/minimal use right? not daily or commuter...they respond "oh yea sure I know the deal"....mva hands them their tags and voila out the door they go. Its bull####
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Lets bring this into the mix. People buying old bread trucks and vans and putting antique tags on them so they can advertise their business.

Stupid sing laws will not allow signs, but they cannot stop them from parking an old truck in the parking lot with their sign on it.

I think it's great as they beat the crazed crap heads who make stupid laws, and find a way around them.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Last day, he had me drive it about 10 miles....... that thing was a hoot. Shift lever three feet long, took 1/2 mile to get up to speed.



in 1990 I worked in a Gas Station on Capital Hill. we got a Yugo in for Servicing ...
.... I got to drive it for a road test, because one of the Mechanics didn't have a license
 
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