New law for those of us with historic tags

hmm I just recalled that as a reason a few years back when MD raised the fees

To ensure stable funding for Maryland's world renowned Emergency Medical Services (EMS) System, including med-evac helicopters, ambulances, fire equipment, rescue squads, and trauma units a "surcharge" of $17.00 per year will be collected with the registration fee where applicable.

http://www.mva.maryland.gov/vehicles/registration/fees.htm

Most of the increases were stated to go into the Transportation Trust Fund.
 

Inkd

Active Member
Why would that make you cringe?

We've been out west for awhile now and it's a different world than the People's Republik. Nobody seems to care how you maintain your own vehicle - or your home, for that matter. It's your business and if someone doesn't like looking at old things, they can poke their eyes out.

I don't really understand why it would be considered "abuse" if it's within the law. It doesn't surprise me that our state legislature scotched that crap because they want every single penny they can squeeze out of us. It just surprises me that there are people who agree with them and call it abuse, rather than being outraged that these money grubbers need to panhandle once again.


It makes me cringe because I imagine at some point, that baling wire is going to let go and something is going to come tumbling off that truck. Or they will go to put on the brakes and their foot will go to the floor and with a truck load of construction gear weighing as much as the truck, good luck getting it to stop.

I don't care how someone maintains their home or their vehicle, as long as they're not living next to me. I do care about how someone maintains their vehicle because I have to share the road with the jacka$$ and I don't want the bumper falling off their "classic" hoopty when I am behind them on Rt 4.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
http://www.mva.maryland.gov/vehicles/registration/fees.htm

Most of the increases were stated to go into the Transportation Trust Fund.



Luckily for us, that money is in the vaunted "lockbox". Which is functionally identical to the non-lockbox funding mechanism that allowed previous administrations, both D and R led, to take over 2 billion out, leaving us with no money to upkeep roads, and gave Owe'Money and his ilk the justification to raise the gas tax......
 
Luckily for us, that money is in the vaunted "lockbox". Which is functionally identical to the non-lockbox funding mechanism that allowed previous administrations, both D and R led, to take over 2 billion out, leaving us with no money to upkeep roads, and gave Owe'Money and his ilk the justification to raise the gas tax......

Why I said "stated"
 
A new Ambulance costs almost $200,000 dollars today. Unequipped.
Add 2% to that due to Obamacares excise tax.(I assume we pay it on Ambulances)and it adds up pretty good.

I wasn't referring to the $17 surcharge, I was referring to the additional increases that have placed on Maryland's Registration Fees over the past several years that was supposed to go into the Transportation Trust Fund that ended up being the favorite place for the General Assembly and previous Governors to raid to fund their other pet projects. I have no problem with the EMS surcharge. Most of that went for the new MSP Helos. And actually, $200,000 would probably get you a very basic Ambulance today. Realistically, a new one will set you back somewhere in the ballpark of $225-250k. Plus, with fuel economy of around 6-7MPG, the costs of keeping them on the road is high.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Unfortunately people abused it so the people who legit needed it are screwed. I can tell you I have seen first hand the abuse. People who get temp tags go to get it MD inspected...of course it does not pass and there is a ton of $$$ repairs to get it to pass...so they go right back to mva and say I'd like to apply for historic tags...mva says now you know this is only for weekend/minimal use right? not daily or commuter...they respond "oh yea sure I know the deal"....mva hands them their tags and voila out the door they go. Its bull####

Exactly. But again, all this new announcement does is announce the age-old use conditions for Historic tags are going to be enforced. In some places in the state..they once were anyway. A non-story this is...as far as I can see. And I don't see anything at all that"screws" my continued legitimate use of the tags...not one thing has actually changed with respect to that. ?
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
I wasn't referring to the $17 surcharge, I was referring to the additional increases that have placed on Maryland's Registration Fees over the past several years that was supposed to go into the Transportation Trust Fund that ended up being the favorite place for the General Assembly and previous Governors to raid to fund their other pet projects. I have no problem with the EMS surcharge. Most of that went for the new MSP Helos. And actually, $200,000 would probably get you a very basic Ambulance today. Realistically, a new one will set you back somewhere in the ballpark of $225-250k. Plus, with fuel economy of around 6-7MPG, the costs of keeping them on the road is high.

Especially when you have to carry 2 $800 dollar epi pens in them
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Bringing the F100 home. Was tightening the accelerator pump screws on the Holley carb, had to literally climb up into the engine bay. #Littleguybigtruckproblems :)
 

RPMDAD

Well-Known Member
But what would/should be defined as a "minimal safety inspection"?

I think officeguy's post is pretty accurate, i would throw in exhaust system to this list, not sure what year they started with catalytic converters. I personally would not drive an unsafe vehicle, and am currently looking at an older vehicle to purchase, mid 90's.

Quote Originally Posted by officeguy View Post
The idiocy of the Maryland inspection regime is baffling to start with. You have to get it inspected when you buy it but after that, nobody cares.

I wish the inspection was less comprehensive but more frequent. The old NY upstate inspection worked like that:

Brakes: Present
Brake-lights: work
Tires: not completely bald
Headlights: work
Parking Brake: Works
Cathalytic converter: Present

The price was fixed at $7 and because it was so limited in scope, there was little opportunity for the shops to fleece owners the way the MD inspection shops do.



That's the big one. The emissions test on older cars is a joke anyways. Pre OBD-2 cars can't really tested without a roller test stand and they did away with those 10 years ago.


I don't have a problem with cops now being able to put repair orders on unsafe 'historic' vehicles. No well maintained collector car will have difficulties passing a roadside inspection. They are not measuring your brake rotors with a micrometer, they check weather you have tread on the tires and whether you lights work. There is no reason why a 'historic' car has to be in bad maintenance condition.
In my experience, if you have a nice collector car and you don't drive like an idiot, all you get is a thumbs-up from the cops.
 

Millburn

New Member
A new Ambulance costs almost $200,000 dollars today. Unequipped.
Add 2% to that due to Obamacares excise tax.(I assume we pay it on Ambulances)and it adds up pretty good.

You would be wrong but from your post's being wrong doesn't bother you at all .
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
You would be wrong but from your post's being wrong doesn't bother you at all .

Which part is wrong, the cost or that it has an excise tax.As I said it was assumed the tax paid meaning I was not sure.
I can get the cancelled check,

Do you purposely go out of your way to post stupid rhetoric?
 

Millburn

New Member
Which part is wrong, the cost or that it has an excise tax.As I said it was assumed the tax paid meaning I was not sure.
I can get the cancelled check,

Do you purposely go out of your way to post stupid rhetoric?

Yes ,get me the canceled check for a $200,000 Ambulance.Make sure it has thatt 2% Obamacare tax on it.


Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
"A new Ambulance costs almost $200,000 dollars today. Unequipped.
Add 2% to that due to Obamacares excise tax.(I assume we pay it on Ambulances)and it adds up pretty good"
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
Punctuation, you ####ing moron, makes the world of difference. Just sayin'...

That's the truth.

Not when you're tanked, then it just takes up valuable drinking time.

:lol:

You would be wrong but from your post's being wrong doesn't bother you at all .

Do you have a positive bone in your body? Everything you post is negative, no matter what the subject. I have decided you are some grumpy old man that keeps changing his forum name, and moving his location; even though, we all know who you are. You need a hug. :huggy:
 

Millburn

New Member
That's the truth.



:lol:



Do you have a positive bone in your body. Everything you post is negative, no matter what the subject. I have decided you are some grumpy old man that keeps moving his location; even know we all know who you are. You need a hug. :huggy:

As anti American as you are ,you need to leave the country.
 
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