No more Confederate flag for Lynyrd Skynyrd

[Buckwheat]

There is also the extra 100 years of the "Jim Crow laws" and then another 50 years and continuing of the white denials of the past by white washing the truth with the white lies.

Us white people could indeed clean up the mess and make it honorable, as that group tried to do.

So you white boys might be pleased to know that the Lynyrd Skynyrd band has decided to display the racist rebel flag again to sooth the white racist backlash.

Link = Lynyrd Skynyrd - A Message From Gary

It's only racist to brainless liberal PCers like yourself. It is simply a source of pride to many southerners which Lynyrd Skynyrd is. It doesn't mean that those "white boys" that display it support slavery from the Civil War and are therefore racists! We have this thing called the First Amendment here in the great U.S.A. And despite the attempts by this Presidential Administration, we still have a Constitution.

 

[Gilligan]

I certainly am not a part of THAT world.

It is not just "hope not" but more accurately is - thank God I am not part of that.

Amen.

We've recently gotten some excellent pics of your world.

 

[JPCusick]

There was, and is, a lot more to the South than slavery.

a large part of distinct Southern culture that rests on the graves of many a white boy who long ago gave his life for his home soil

It's only racist to brainless liberal PCers like yourself. It is simply a source of pride to many southerners which Lynyrd Skynyrd is. It doesn't mean that those "white boys" that display it support slavery from the Civil War and are therefore racists! We have this thing called the First Amendment here in the great U.S.A. And despite the attempts by this Presidential Administration, we still have a Constitution.

So why not some one here tell us what is that southern heritage which is separate from the racist southern past?

Please do tell? and any of you can use links or whatever to describe that rich southern heritage that white folk cling to.

One my own points is that the southern African Americans invented the chicken-fried-steak, just FYI.

Can anyone explain whatever-is that southern pride based on?

The entire USA was taken away from the Indians by force, and both Florida and Texas were taken away from the Spanish / Mexico, and Louisianan was taken from the French, so lets start whatever the southern pride might be after this point!

:shrug:

 

[NextJen]

So why not some one here tell us what is that southern heritage which is separate from the racist southern past?

Jim Beam Bourbon Whiskey

 

[Gilligan]

:Louisianan was taken from the French, :

Bought. Bought from the French.


BTW. Seventy-five percent (or more..as high as 80%) of southerners never owned slaves themselves nor were members of families who did.


But lets not cause you any distress by quibbling over facts.

 

[Larry Gude]

So why not some one here tell us what is that southern heritage which is separate from the racist southern past? :

I do this thinking it is a waste of time because you're not proffering an opinion subject to change. You're offering dogma and a narrative that must be based on that dogma.

Southern heritage, in addition to slavery, is the land. Hunting and fishing and making it on your own. Southern heritage is food and the weather, the Georgia Pines, the waters of the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic. Southern Heritage is family, the mountains of Virginia, Carolina, Kentucky and Tennessee. Southern heritage, like any people, is a great many things including music and includes, to be sure, the worst of any region or people but, not limited to that. Far, far from it.

The VAST majority of Southerners never owned a slave.

Troops ships to and Europe in WWII divided not on race but, on region; North against South. That was nearly 70 years ago.

Culture of today, music, language, dress, has long incorporated both black and white.

As I say, there is an awful lot of Northern tradition that should, logically, draw your ire but, you seem to not be concerned about this. As I say, there was, and is, hard core racism in the North to this day. Segregated neighborhoods and schools. Many would argue our big cities are little more than volunteer plantations far too many folks are chained to in desperate, unshakeable dependency.

It is far too easy to point at a symbol, a flag, and generalize. It is intellectually lazy and, as an American, incredibly dismissive of a huge part of the population and our shared history.

 

[JPCusick]

Reply.

It is far too easy to point at a symbol, a flag, and generalize.

I see that is does always come back to that nasty flag, and that flag is the point of this thread too.

That ugly racist flag does not stand for any southern heritage separate from the slavery.

That rebel flag stands for the racial superiority of the whites, while it also stands for racist oppression of the African American people.

The whites of the north do have a horrible racist record indeed, but the north does not cling to its battle flag as a symbol for their racist ideals.

The northern white racist use that same rebel flag to give out their shared racist message.

The better question is what heritage does that rebel flag symbolize? since the racism of that ugly flag dominates over any other interpretation.

 

[Larry Gude]

I see that is does always come back to that nasty flag, and that flag is the point of this thread too.

That ugly racist flag does not stand for any southern heritage separate from the slavery.

That rebel flag stands for the racial superiority of the whites, while it also stands for racist oppression of the African American people.

The whites of the north do have a horrible racist record indeed, but the north does not cling to its battle flag as a symbol for their racist ideals.

The northern white racist use that same rebel flag to give out their shared racist message.

The better question is what heritage does that rebel flag symbolize? since the racism of that ugly flag dominates over any other interpretation.

Fortunately, I was prepared for this to be a waste of time.

 

[RoseRed]

Fortunately, I was prepared for this to be a waste of time.

 

[Gilligan]

Fortunately, I was prepared for this to be a waste of time.

I know. Jimmy has mastered the art of being obtusely impervious, elevating it to levels seldom seen.

 

[Larry Gude]

I know. Jimmy has mastered the art of being obtusely impervious, elevating it to levels seldom seen.

Is that some sort of fuel cell term or something?

 

[Gilligan]

Is that some sort of fuel cell term or something?

Could be; Its just what fell out of my buzzword generator when I pushed the button.

 

[Larry Gude]

Skynrd songs that have nothing to do with slavery and everything to do with the good of Southern tradition and character;

I started to list them when it dawned on me that, other than Sweet Home, every Skynrd song is about Southern tradition and character and Sweet home is their ONLY song that has anything to do with slavery.

Of course, there is this 'racist' screed on the same album as SWA:

 

[JPCusick]

Repair.

It is not nice to laugh about that.

For me I am always hoping for better and seldom does it happen on this board.

Those that boast about the ugly rebel flag simply can not give any substance to the boasting, and yes of course it is my fault for their failings.

The thing is that I, like expected from other white folk, are expected to fall into line with the shallow white lies, and that too is my own fault for not complying.

 

[bcp]

Well, dont really care if it offends people, I still have one on the truck.
And Im leaving it there.

States rights and all that you know. Its right next to my 2A sticker.

 

[Hank]

its right next to my 2a sticker.

aarp?

 

[Larry Gude]

aarp?

Point, Hank.

 

[bcp]

aarp?

no, I just throw their mail away and cuss them out when they call.
They contributed money to the magic negro, just cant deal with something like that.

 

[Larry Gude]

no, I just throw their mail away and cuss them out when they call.
They contributed money to the magic negro, just cant deal with something like that.

This is why I support full and immediate disclosure of who gave what to whom and when. I think we'd all raise some eyebrows if we knew what really went on. For instance, I have little doubt coal quietly supported enviro's back in the day to keep nuke at bay.

 

[bcp]

This is why I support full and immediate disclosure of who gave what to whom and when. I think we'd all raise some eyebrows if we knew what really went on. For instance, I have little doubt coal quietly supported enviro's back in the day to keep nuke at bay.

No doubt.
its also why I think contributions should be left only to individuals and have a limit.