NYC Police Shooting - Where's the outrage SOMD?

Nupe2

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itsbob said:
I thought that applied to shooting FROM moving vehicles..

It was reported last night that the policy included shooting from and AT moving vehicles (concern about civilian safety).
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
Nupe2 said:
It was reported last night that the policy included shooting from and AT moving vehicles (concern about civilian safety).
The article I read said that their philosophy is that if you have time to line up a shot, you have time to get out of the way.
 

Sharon

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MMDad said:
As soon as I saw Sharpton was involved, this became a non-issue. His presence kills any credibility.
If they had any smarts they would've sought counsel from a reverend before they decided to go to a strip club known for prostitution and illegal drugs.

This case does disturb me... unless there's new information on it since I first read about it. The police were in unmarked vehicles and plain clothes. Did they identify themselves before all this happened or did the guy just ram the cop with his car w/o provocation?
 

vraiblonde

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Gwydion said:
What a way for your wife to find out where you had your bachelors party!
Yeah, not to mention they apparently were going to take the stripper with them to get some food. :ohwell:
 

Sharon

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Nupe2 said:
I know this isn't a local story but this board seems to really get fired up when a racially charged incident occurs involving young black males. That is especially true when the young black male commits or is alleged to have committed a crime. Now that it appears that the shoe is on the other foot, again, where is the outrage? Where are all the folks that post here about justice and equality, etc. etc.?

Just curious. Have a nice day. :yay:

Is it really about race or police brutality? I'd bet some or quite a few of those cops were black.
 

Nupe2

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MMDad said:
The article I read said that their philosophy is that if you have time to line up a shot, you have time to get out of the way.

Here's what I've been able to find:

PG 203-12
Deadly Physical Force

The New York City Police Department recognizes the value of all human life and is committed to respecting the dignity of every individual. The primary duty of all members of the service is to preserve human life.

The most serious act in which a police officer can engage is the use of deadly force. The power to carry and use firearms in the course of public service is an awesome responsibility. Respect for human life requires that, in all cases, firearms be used as a last resort, and then only to protect life. Uniformed members of the service should use only the minimal amount of force necessary to protect human life. Where feasible, and consistent with personal safety, some warning, such as "POLICE — DON'T MOVE," should be given. Deadly force is never justified in the defense of property. Above all, the safety of the public and uniformed members of the service must be the overriding concern whenever the use of firearms is considered.

Guidelines For The Use of Firearms

(a) Police officers shall not use deadly physical force against another person unless they have probable cause to believe they must protect themselves or another person from imminent death or serious physical injury.
(b) Police officers shall not discharge their weapons when doing so will unnecessarily endanger innocent persons.
(c) Police officers shall not discharge their firearms in defense of property.
(d) Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to subdue a fleeing felon who presents no threat of imminent death or serious physical injury to themselves or another person present.
(e) Police officers shall not fire warning shots.
(f) Police officers shall not discharge their firearms to summon assistance except in emergency situations when someone's personal safety is endangered and unless no other reasonable means is available.
(g) Police officers shall not discharge their firearms at or from a moving vehicle unless deadly physical force is being used against the police officer or another person present, by means other than a moving vehicle.
(h) Police officers shall not discharge their firearms at a dog or other animal except to protect themselves or another person from physical injury and there is no other reasonable means to eliminate the threat.
(i) Police officers shall not, under any circumstances, #### a firearm. Firearms must be fired double action at all times
 

Nupe2

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Sharon said:
Is it really about race or police brutality? I'd bet some or quite a few of those cops were black.

You're correct. Race becomes an issue in the NY shooting because of two well-publicized shootings of unarmed Blacks by NYPD. My initial post was pointed at the nature of some of the posts under "Is Charles County Racist?" and similar threads posted on SOMD forums..
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
(i) Police officers shall not, under any circumstances, #### a firearm. Firearms must be fired double action at all times
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Now that's a bizarre rule.. kinda limits the weapons they can buy.. or really effects the time it will take to get off the second shot.

Lets see, I shoot the first round Double Action.. decock my gun so I can shoot the second round double action .. decock again so I can shoot the third round.. etc etc..
 
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Vince

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Nupe2 said:
Actually, from what I've read and learned from the TV (written like that on purpose), NYPD policy prohibits shooting at moving vehicles unless the officers are being fired upon. Again, I have not seen the documentation but that's what's being reported.
Didn't hear alot on this story other than the police shot some guy at his wedding or something? :shrug: Waiting for alot more facts.
 

Nupe2

Well-Known Member
itsbob said:
(i) Police officers shall not, under any circumstances, #### a firearm. Firearms must be fired double action at all times
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Now that's a bizarre rule.. kinda limits the weapons they can by.. or really effects the time it will take to get off the second shot.

Lets see, I shoot the first round Double Action.. decock my gun so I can shoot the second round double action .. decock again so I can shoot the third round.. etc etc..

I just realized that the forum censors blocked "cokc." I guess that makes them cokcblockers! :lmao:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Nupe2 said:
I just realized that the forum censors blocked "cokc." I guess that makes them cokcblockers! :lmao:
YOu can decock, but you can't ####..

Less forum pregnancies that way I guess.
 
itsbob said:
(i) Police officers shall not, under any circumstances, #### a firearm. Firearms must be fired double action at all times
__________________

Now that's a bizarre rule.. kinda limits the weapons they can buy.. or really effects the time it will take to get off the second shot.

Lets see, I shoot the first round Double Action.. decock my gun so I can shoot the second round double action .. decock again so I can shoot the third round.. etc etc..
Depends on if they consider the gun as cocking itself. :lmao:
 

BlackSheep

New Member
flomaster said:
STRIPPERS POINT OF VIEW: However, Trini Wright, a dancer at the strip club where Bell's bachelor party was held, told the Daily News she was going to a diner with the men and was putting her makeup bag in the trunk of their car when the police minivan appeared.
OMG-make it stop!
This one's for the girls-Do you EVER put your makeup bag in the truck?

Things that make you go hmmmmmm :whistle:
 
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