NYC Police Shooting - Where's the outrage SOMD?

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

And isn't that a damn shame? The "black community" should fire Sharpton because he does them no favors with his constant race-baiting. But, of course, the liberal white-guilt media made him the celebrity spokesperson he is, so what are ya gonna do?

:shrug:

Ya'know I kind of agree with you. I've never once seen Al Sharpton stick up for a white person. If a black person does a white man wrong, Sharpton's viewpoint is "Well his ancestors were slaves and he had that right and "

Race is only an issue in the media if someone makes racial remarks against a black person or whenever someone shoots up a blacvk neighborhood.

I remember an incident in July in D.C. where a black man went into a prominently white neighborhood and shot 4 people. Media didn't mention those details (only showed the picture of the alleged shooter).

And don't get me started on my tirade on the Kramer controversey... Why is it acceptable for Kanye West to use the N word religously in his songs but it's a cimr for a white person to do so? Why is it acceptable for black people to call me cracker and target the N word at me?

Now, most black people I know are not arrogant like Sharpton is, but as far as Al Sharpton is conerned, the white race can be demolished. Isn't Sharpton the guy that tried to kill a white man or something?

 

[Lenny]

"We've got to understand that all of us were in that car."

If only that had been true in his case. Dayum, another lost opportunity.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

If only that had been true in his case. Dayum, another lost opportunity.

 

[desertrat]

If only that had been true in his case. Dayum, another lost opportunity.

Be careful what you wish for, huh?.

 

[Azzy]

"We cannot allow this to continue to happen," the Rev. Al Sharpton said at the gathering outside Mary Immaculate Hospital, where one of the two wounded men was in critical condition.

What exactly is he a Reverend of? Does he actually have some sort of degree or whatever it is that you need to actually BE a Reverend?

"We've got to understand that all of us were in that car."

What, was it a clown car or somethin

 

[Gwydion]

What exactly is he a Reverend of? Does he actually have some sort of degree or whatever it is that you need to actually BE a Reverend?
What, was it a clown car or somethin

I dont think you need a Degree to become a reverand. I'm sure there are a few things to do before you become a reverand though....(insert random child molestation joke...)

 

[Disco Stu]

I focus my complaints on local events. Let the people in NY deal with it.

 

[AK-74me]

(i) Police officers shall not, under any circumstances, #### a firearm. Firearms must be fired double action at all times
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Now that's a bizarre rule.. kinda limits the weapons they can buy.. or really effects the time it will take to get off the second shot.

Lets see, I shoot the first round Double Action.. decock my gun so I can shoot the second round double action .. decock again so I can shoot the third round.. etc etc..

Alot of agencys are going to DAO (double action only) handguns these days. And if you look at what alot of the major gun makers are producing now as far as DAO models you'll see some changes. For example the SIG p226 used to be a 12 lb pull then 3 lb when it was in single, but now it is just a straight 7 lb pull in DAO for every trigger pull.

NYC deadly force policy on using a vehicle as a weapon is BS, I can think of alot of examples where an officer may not be able to get out of the way of a moving vehicle but could possibly fire shots that could stop it.

 

[vraiblonde]

Isn't Sharpton the guy that tried to kill a white man or something?

He set up that white guy in the Tawana Brawley hoax and basically ruined this guy's life for a crime he didn't commit (especially since there was no crime to begin with). And he's either been responsible for or the catalyst of several violent racially-motivated acts where people got killed.

None of the interviewers ever seem interested in bringing these things up when Sharpton's got his mug on some talk show, spewing about racism.

 

[juggy4805]

If they had any smarts they would've sought counsel from a reverend before they decided to go to a strip club known for prostitution and illegal drugs.

This case does disturb me... unless there's new information on it since I first read about it. The police were in unmarked vehicles and plain clothes. Did they identify themselves before all this happened or did the guy just ram the cop with his car w/o provocation?

What strip club isn't know for that?

 

[vraiblonde]

Al's Greatest Hits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton#Controversy

 

[Azzy]

I dont think you need a Degree to become a reverand. I'm sure there are a few things to do before you become a reverand though....(insert random child molestation joke...)

Ok, but what about the car

 

[vraiblonde]

None of the interviewers ever seem interested in bringing these things up when Sharpton's got his mug on some talk show, spewing about racism.

And I'll tell you something else:

When Big Al was running for the Democrat primary, his debate opponents had a primo topic to snag him with. But none of them went there - they let him get off his zingers and be the clown without mention of some of his more colorful escapades.

That told me something about the 2004 crop of Dem candidates, that they would stand there on a stage with Al Sharpton as their political equal.

 

[itsbob]

I dont think you need a Degree to become a reverand. I'm sure there are a few things to do before you become a reverand though....(insert random child molestation joke...)

Al and the Reverend Jesse Jackson both got their title's through mail order, I don;t think either are associated with any particular church, unless you consider the "rainbow Coalition" a religion.. neither have a theology degree, or if I'm not mistaken any degree of any kind.

Dateline had a piece on Jesse Jackson that revealed him for what he really is, but no other media carried the story and it just kind of died..

Al showed his true colors today, he posed for pictures with the Mayor, but when the interview started he bolted for the doors.

I personally feel if the black communtiy honestly NEEDS a spokesperson, they should look for one their kids could emulate.. and the one person that comes to mind is Bill Cosby.

 

[Gwydion]

I personally feel if the black communtiy honestly NEEDS a spokesperson, they should look for one their kids could emulate.. and the one person that comes to mind is Bill Cosby.

Or Conoleza Rice (spelling?).

 

[Azzy]

I personally feel if the black communtiy honestly NEEDS a spokesperson, they should look for one their kids could emulate.. and the one person that comes to mind is Bill Cosby.

AMEN!

 

[itsbob]

Or Conoleza Rice (spelling?).

Do like the journalists that can't spell do.. Condi Rice..

But yep, I agree.

 

[vraiblonde]

I personally feel if the black communtiy honestly NEEDS a spokesperson, they should look for one their kids could emulate.. and the one person that comes to mind is Bill Cosby.

Well, here's the thing:

I always put "black community" in quotes because there's really no such thing - any more than there's a "white community" with universal concerns and a particular spokesperson.

As far as I can tell, "black community" means drug-addled criminals living in some ghetto and race-hustlers who cry about getting poor service in the Cracker Barrel. I don't think it includes normal black people with jobs, families and education.

 

[Nupe2]

The "Black Community" does not need a spokesperson. To assume that one is needed is to assume that all Black folks agree on every issue or that there is some secret ballot held the results of which are then used to inform the appointed spokesperson of the "Black Community's" position on the issue at hand. We are not some single-minded, single issue people. We are Americans just like the majority and seek the same rights and protections as any other American. On those issues there is not a "Black Community" but an "American Community."

Although you may not agree, Jesse and Al and even Minister Farrakkan as well as Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Vernon Johns and many others, have served to bring issues to the forefront that are not of obvious concern to the majority of Americans. For that they should be appreciated. The fact that both Al and Jesse have "stepped in it" from time to time should be chalked up to their being human. We have all paid the price for their human failings, be that price be some folks immediate disdain when they speak out or other folks using their presence to further their immediate goals (Michael Richards). If both Rev. Al and Jesse Jackson had kept their reputations intact, they would both be viewed by more Americans as true Patriots who simply want this country to live up to the ideals expressed within the Constitution.

To get back to the original point, no they do not speak for the Black Community, they speak for those who feel they have no voice. How the "voiceless" are characterized by others is irrelevant. The fact that they exist is the reason the Rev. Als and Jesse Jacksons exist.

 

[vraiblonde]

The "Black Community" does not need a spokesperson. To assume that one is needed is to assume that all Black folks agree on every issue or that there is some secret ballot held the results of which are then used to inform the appointed spokesperson of the "Black Community's" position on the issue at hand. We are not some single-minded, single issue people.

Ha. Beat you to it

But I disagree with your second paragraph and especially with this:

To get back to the original point, no they do not speak for the Black Community, they speak for those who feel they have no voice.

If you look at the incidences that Sharpton and Jackson choose to get involved with, you'll notice a pattern. And I think they exacerbate the problem more than they've helped. And, last but certainly not least, I do not think that MLK belongs lumped together with the likes of Jackson, Sharpton and especially Farrakhan. I think it's insulting to him and his accomplishments.