tommyjones
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Obama's Rejection Of Pastor Unfortunate
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dems4me
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You still miss it, but that is not unusual.
WTF? I understand what you are saying about damning something. But the GD word is still the GD word.
I don't know what Bible you are reading but I sure as heck ain't seeing it in the passages I read. :shrug: Perhaps you have a newer version where Jesus is running around saying GD this temple, GD the profiteers of religion, GD hypocrosy and soothsayers, GD the witches, GD the rapists, GD the theives... GD everyone. 
Oh, and who does the country really belong to, the government or the people? If it is the people, then if they don't want us there, we should not be there.
And there you have it. Everyone who complains about oil never wants to be the first to try doing without it.
I doubt that terrorist groups represent "the people" any more than ELF represents the US.
Apparently you and whathisface that I ignore but you brought into this missed:
We could walk away and not do without if we had not been so wasteful with our own resources.2ndAmendment said:
Not sure I understand this. Are you suggesting we go back in time and do something different?
No. I am saying that we, the United States, have been incredibly stupid in the use of our resources. If we had not been, we would not be enslaved to the Middle East. That should lead us into better thinking, say like the Founders intended when they thought this thing out in the first place.
The problem is there are too many that think if things are not going our way, be it trade or politics or something else, it is OK to use military might to impose our point of view. I'm saying that other countries are entitled to their sovereignty just as we are.
Our military should not be used to project our will. Our military should be reactionary in nature. Full ready and able to repel and defeat any and all those that would invade us or challenge our sovereignty. Our military should be so strong that no entity could even imagine that it would be reasonable for them to attack us. When attacked, the response should be such that there is nothing left worth fighting over when we are done and then go home without rebuilding anything.
Sonsie
The mighty Al-Sonsie!
Okay, well welcome to reality. Enjoy your stay.
Now you got the Paultards all stirred up, happy? Nothing kills a thread faster than the return of the Paulians.
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That would be you, son. I don't need the freakin' transcript - I actually watched the debate.
Hessian
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Hmmm...
I follow what 2nd A is saying and in principle it has merit...BUT,
The day has passed when we use overwhelming force against an enemy.
Every military reaction except the Civil war and WWI has resulted in enormous guilt $$ paid after the peace is settled. We step SO lightly that brinkmanship is DEAD,...we don't even consider responding with enormous lethal force anymore.
Frankly,...the world knows this. we simply will never use nukes again. We prefer long painful drawn-out diplomacy, economic threats (yeah we really terrify our opponents there) and then some uber-costly military occupation.
So we build nukes we will never use, we train troops to be culturally sensative, and we have prolonged embarrassing trials for any soldier who may have offended our enemies........this is why that part of 2ndA's equation will never work.
I follow what 2nd A is saying and in principle it has merit...BUT,
The day has passed when we use overwhelming force against an enemy.
Every military reaction except the Civil war and WWI has resulted in enormous guilt $$ paid after the peace is settled. We step SO lightly that brinkmanship is DEAD,...we don't even consider responding with enormous lethal force anymore.
Frankly,...the world knows this. we simply will never use nukes again. We prefer long painful drawn-out diplomacy, economic threats (yeah we really terrify our opponents there) and then some uber-costly military occupation.
So we build nukes we will never use, we train troops to be culturally sensative, and we have prolonged embarrassing trials for any soldier who may have offended our enemies........this is why that part of 2ndA's equation will never work.
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The thing about the drugs though, is they arent the users we (USA) are. Its there number one cash crop and the money goes back to supporting terrorism against us and are allies.
We could fix the problem internally rather than going against the supply but that would require morals and Godly principals, but its a little late for that as you would be hard pressed to find them in our secular society.
Guess what. As much as all Christians would like this country to return to good morals and ethics, it is not going to happen. The only thing we can wait for now is the death knell for the U.S. of A. It will happen. It is only a matter of when.