Officer Involved Incident Under Investigation

foodcritic

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The baynet gave a forum to the uuummm witnes ie. girlfriend Currie. She may have been a witness but certainly has a biased view. The facts of this case are being reported by THE suspect!!!. We don't know the deputy was driving! It may have been the wife driving and deputy as a passenger just observed the violation and tried to intevene. The fact that he may or may not had been drinking does not absolve him of doing nothing if a crime is being commited in his presence. He is off-duty...maybe they were at a pick-nic..who knows? Police are not going to RBT a person anyperson because someone is demanding it be done. That is used for traffic stops when alcohol is suspected. The fact that there seems to be a dispute between who may have been operating the officers vehicle. Let the investigation run it's course before we listen people with sorted pasts tell us what happened.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
The baynet gave a forum to the uuummm witnes ie. girlfriend Currie. She may have been a witness but certainly has a biased view. The facts of this case are being reported by THE suspect!!!. We don't know the deputy was driving! It may have been the wife driving and deputy as a passenger just observed the violation and tried to intevene. The fact that he may or may not had been drinking does not absolve him of doing nothing if a crime is being commited in his presence. He is off-duty...maybe they were at a pick-nic..who knows? Police are not going to RBT a person anyperson because someone is demanding it be done. That is used for traffic stops when alcohol is suspected. The fact that there seems to be a dispute between who may have been operating the officers vehicle. Let the investigation run it's course before we listen people with sorted pasts tell us what happened.

:otter: Was it you? Are you drunk again?
 
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CalvertNewbie

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I'd say, looking at the picture, he recovered from this beating pretty well and pretty quick.. He damn sure doesn't look like a white Rodney King.

Granted if the cop was DUI, and that part alone is true, I think he should be fired.


I thought the same thing - I guess he didn't get hit in the face. But he said he was on the ground and the cop was hitting him in the head. :shrug: The guy admits he's no angel but I don't think that warrants getting beat by a cop - if it did happen. If all this took place on 235 there should be some witnesses to clear things up, other than his girlfriend who obviously will side with him.

Sounds like someone may be looking for a new job in the not so distant future. Again....IF the beating happened. So far, we only have his side of the story and he's no angel.
 

Solja_Boy

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We don't know the deputy was driving! It may have been the wife driving and deputy as a passenger just observed the violation and tried to intevene. The fact that he may or may not had been drinking does not absolve him of doing nothing if a crime is being commited in his presence. .


Even if he wasn't driving it is a absolutly stupid desision to try and intervien in a situation and try to make an arrest when you have your kid in the car.

At the very least he is puting his kid at risk. If a cop is off duty and they see a crime being commited in thier presense they are not required to stop if them stopping will endanger a 3rd party (in this case it was his kid and wife).
 

jetmonkey

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If the ATV guy's story is true, than that deputy is an #######. Nonetheless, had ATV guy been behaving himself he would not have come to the attention of law enforcement.
 
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CalvertNewbie

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The baynet gave a forum to the uuummm witnes ie. girlfriend Currie. She may have been a witness but certainly has a biased view. The facts of this case are being reported by THE suspect!!!. We don't know the deputy was driving! It may have been the wife driving and deputy as a passenger just observed the violation and tried to intevene. The fact that he may or may not had been drinking does not absolve him of doing nothing if a crime is being commited in his presence. He is off-duty...maybe they were at a pick-nic..who knows? Police are not going to RBT a person anyperson because someone is demanding it be done. That is used for traffic stops when alcohol is suspected. The fact that there seems to be a dispute between who may have been operating the officers vehicle. Let the investigation run it's course before we listen people with sorted pasts tell us what happened.

If he was a passenger would they have tested his BAC?
 
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CalvertNewbie

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I don't think they would

Yeah, I didn't think so either. That's why I felt it was safe to assume he was driving and never even thought otherwise. I guess we'll wait and see how everything turns out.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
I'd say, looking at the picture, he recovered from this beating pretty well and pretty quick.. He damn sure doesn't look like a white Rodney King.

Granted if the cop was DUI, and that part alone is true, I think he should be fired.

Check out his record. Assault, DUI, drugs, child support, protective orders...

If you were on a jury, saw the post "beating" picture, and saw his record, who would you believe?

And his "girlfriend" is a stupid "C" for getting protective orders against him and staying with him.
 

foodcritic

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Even if he wasn't driving it is a absolutly stupid desision to try and intervien in a situation and try to make an arrest when you have your kid in the car.

At the very least he is puting his kid at risk. If a cop is off duty and they see a crime being commited in thier presense they are not required to stop if them stopping will endanger a 3rd party (in this case it was his kid and wife).

I think you are correct in your observation. But sometimes decisions (not wrong) are made poorly. Maybe more clouded if alcohol was involved. I am just waiting for all the objective facts to come out.
 

foodcritic

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If he was a passenger would they have tested his BAC?

I would suspect that if he was a passenger the BAC would be irrelevant. However if the suspect made the allegation he was driving the investigator may have done it to cover all bases. So either way I don't know if the guy was driving. The suspects's girlfriend....witness said that the wife jumped in the driverseat. I don't know. Just waiting for the facts.

Their are other things to consider also, was the officer armed and impaired? They may have checked the BAC for that reason. Most agencies have policies about drinking when you are armed. I do not know.
 
Did anyone catch the fact names... I wonder if this is our Shane and Crystal.... of Bucky, Ray, and the other baby mommas drama days...:starcat:
 

Bay_Kat

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Did anyone catch the fact names... I wonder if this is our Shane and Crystal.... of Bucky, Ray, and the other baby mommas drama days...:starcat:

I was reading a bunch of comments on the baynet and people were saying that they both have criminal records for drugs, if in fact these are the same people. :shrug: I don't know them, I'm not going to take sides until the truth comes out, but to be honest, I doubt we'll ever know the truth in this.
 
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CalvertNewbie

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I would suspect that if he was a passenger the BAC would be irrelevant. However if the suspect made the allegation he was driving the investigator may have done it to cover all bases. So either way I don't know if the guy was driving. The suspects's girlfriend....witness said that the wife jumped in the driverseat. I don't know. Just waiting for the facts.

Their are other things to consider also, was the officer armed and impaired? They may have checked the BAC for that reason. Most agencies have policies about drinking when you are armed. I do not know.

Makes sense. Again, the suspect's girlfriend will be a biased witness so I won't take anything she says all too seriously - same goes for the cop's wife. This should be an interesting case. You have a guy who's had a decent amount of trouble with the law and a drunk cop who supposedly beat the crap out of him and was most likely driving prior to this incident. As a potential juror, I would be more inclined to believe the guy if his past wasn't so shady and of course, if he had the the bruises to back his story. But like the rest of us, I'll wait to see what transpires and hopefully I won't be on the jury. :smile:
 

awpitt

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I would suspect that if he was a passenger the BAC would be irrelevant. However if the suspect made the allegation he was driving the investigator may have done it to cover all bases. So either way I don't know if the guy was driving. The suspects's girlfriend....witness said that the wife jumped in the driverseat. I don't know. Just waiting for the facts.

Their are other things to consider also, was the officer armed and impaired? They may have checked the BAC for that reason. Most agencies have policies about drinking when you are armed. I do not know.
Doesn't matter if he was driving or not. Once he confronted the ATV guy he was assuming law enforcement duties while drunk.
 
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CalvertNewbie

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Doesn't matter if he was driving or not. Once he confronted the ATV guy he was assuming law enforcement duties while drunk.

True, and I'm hoping he didn't have his service weapon on him at the time. As for the beating, who knows what really took place? But I'd certainly think that they'd frown upon a hammered cop "enforcing the law".

If I had to guess now, the cop may wind up looking for a new job. BUT did he beat the living crap out of that punk? Probably not but he may have taken a few quick jabs at him. Beer muscles come out on a lot of people and being that this punk had quite a few run ins with the law, cops don't tend to look favorably upon those types of people. Again, all just speculation.
 

awpitt

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True, and I'm hoping he didn't have his service weapon on him at the time. As for the beating, who knows what really took place? But I'd certainly think that they'd frown upon a hammered cop "enforcing the law".

If I had to guess now, the cop may wind up looking for a new job. BUT did he beat the living crap out of that punk? Probably not but he may have taken a few quick jabs at him. Beer muscles come out on a lot of people and being that this punk had quite a few run ins with the law, cops don't tend to look favorably upon those types of people. Again, all just speculation.
You're right everything here is speculation except for one thing. He had a .18 an hour after the inncident so it was higher at the time everything happened. One would think that alone would be enough justification for the Sheriff to send him on his way. This is assuming the Dept has policies against performing law enforcement duites while under the influence.
 
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