Oldest Amish school girl "shoot me first"
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camily said:
True Christians believe that this earthly life is just a waystation to Heaven. Something you have to endure to prove you're worthy of everlasting life.
And, at the end of the day, what good does being pissed do you? You still have to go on, and being bitter is no way to live out your days.
FireBrand
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itsbob said:
Do You stand guard and armed at your child's school doorway ?
That's right ! I did'nt think so.
Forgiveness is one thing, that is what the Amish are about,
but to say that they do nothing to protect themselves or their Kids ?
What the hell did we do ( I.E Columbine and all the others)
They happened !!
Did we have armed guards at all the doors of public schools, shiat NO.
Would 2 big brawny amish men at every school door have stopped this lunatic and all of his weapons ???
Maybe, maybe not.. WE DON'T do that !!
The Amish are no more "lay down and die" than we are. period !!!
Their resources are probably limited just like ours !!
Their determination not to give into fear and to enjoy basic freedoms
is exactly the same as ours !!!
9-11 and Columbine proved that Americans will not live in fear and arm every school doorway,
and I think that this tragedy is the same as 9-11/Columbine to the Amish.
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Not if you think you're life begins when you get with God.itsbob said:
Bob,
The news reports said there were men there with riffles but it was TOO LATE. The incident was over. There was nobody to kill. He killed himself. These people were completely and utterly taken by surprise. They don’t watch the news. They don’t hear about the rash of school shootings. You cannot be with your children 24/7 and protect them from the evil in the world. The Amish, who have distanced themselves from the ways of the world, cannot guard over their children and protect them from the evil in the world. There are things that happen because good people have no control.
And another thing, the weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
It doesn’t mean they are weak; in fact, nothing could be further than the truth. It takes an awful lot courage to lay down one’s anger and to walk away in peace.
Fallen,
I was escorted around the Tornado damage in La Plata by a Fire Marshall to take pictures of the actual damage. My instructions were very clear. I was NOT to take pictures of anyone’s face, only damage photos. There was another person there who was taking pictures of the governor and other V.I.P.’s that came to tour the damage. I asked the Amish if I could photograph them, and they said that was fine. When they saw me raise the camera to my face, they all leaned down and continued working. I have no faces in my shots.
The news reports said there were men there with riffles but it was TOO LATE. The incident was over. There was nobody to kill. He killed himself. These people were completely and utterly taken by surprise. They don’t watch the news. They don’t hear about the rash of school shootings. You cannot be with your children 24/7 and protect them from the evil in the world. The Amish, who have distanced themselves from the ways of the world, cannot guard over their children and protect them from the evil in the world. There are things that happen because good people have no control.
And another thing, the weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
It doesn’t mean they are weak; in fact, nothing could be further than the truth. It takes an awful lot courage to lay down one’s anger and to walk away in peace.
Fallen,
I was escorted around the Tornado damage in La Plata by a Fire Marshall to take pictures of the actual damage. My instructions were very clear. I was NOT to take pictures of anyone’s face, only damage photos. There was another person there who was taking pictures of the governor and other V.I.P.’s that came to tour the damage. I asked the Amish if I could photograph them, and they said that was fine. When they saw me raise the camera to my face, they all leaned down and continued working. I have no faces in my shots.
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Fallen
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I noticed on the news sites, the first few pictures they showed of the Amish, they had that cloud thing over their facePandora said:Fallen,
I was escorted around the Tornato damage in La Plata by a Fire Marshall to take pictures of the actual damage. My instructions were very clear. I was NOT to take pictures of anyone’s face, only damage photos. There was another person there who was taking pictures of the governor and other V.I.P.’s that came to tour the damage. I asked the Amish if I could photograph them, and they said that was fine. When they saw me raise the camera to my face, they all leaned down and continued working. I have no faces in my shots.
itsbob
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DIp####, I know where it took place, that's an example of paificism, there was no spin, it's an example, albeit an extreme example.FireBrand said:
A true pacifist won't raise up against ANYTHING no matter what the circumstances, even if someone is killing their family, and like VRAI said becasue they believe it's the next step to god.. THAT'S what I call BULLCHIT on.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
I would hope ONE of my daughters teachers would be brave enough not to leave her to die at the hands of a lunatic, walking out leaving her defenseless with other children... it's apparently acceptable to do that in an Amish school, where a principal died in a public school when he confronted, got shot yet STILL got the gun from the lunatic before he killed any of the kids PRIOR to the principal succumbing and dying from his wounds.FireBrand said:
Granted this isn't a normal occurence, and although it's on TV what seems to be everyday, it's still a very rare occurence, but if you are a teacher you have taken on a responsibility whether you think you did or not, for the safety and well being of the kids under your charge. The principal understood this responsibility, and the Amish teachers didn't, but then again, neither do most of the teachers in public schools.
chernmax
NOT Politically Correct!!
Fallen said:Here is another story I found, detailing the whole thing. This part struck me as odd, and I figured I would post it since we were talking about it.
I mean, they just up and ran, both of them. He hadn't told them to leave or anything, they just hauled ass.
Yes but on the flip side, you accomplish nothing by being a dead hero and had they (someone) not called authorities, they could have all been executed before anyone ever known about it. The whole situation still sucks...
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I could see one of them running out to call for help but it doesnt take two people to use a phone. The teacher really should have stayed with the children, shes a teacherchernmax said:
I had no idea there were at least 4 adults in there when it started. Seems to me like they could have at least attempted to disarm him. :shrug:
chernmax
NOT Politically Correct!!
Fallen said:I could see one of them running out to call for help but it doesnt take two people to use a phone. The teacher really should have stayed with the children, shes a teacher
Woman think different than men...
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No, I havent but I would like to think that I would do something before I would ever let anyone hurt my childrenmainman said: