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easyliving45

Active Member
What lie?

You, personally, get $1400. You will be charged, via taxes, at least $6,000 to get that $1400.

You made the point that the same bill that is costing you $6,000 at a minimum also gives other things - not a one is a direct help to you, personally.

Thus, you are being charged, through your taxes, at least $6k to get a $1400 check.

I'm completely consistent in that.


Well again you are wrong.

I am happy to pay for these things which will all either benefit me or benefit other americans that will have a direct impact on my quality of life.

Just because you are a selfish **** doesn't mean your opinion is correct.

This is also all information i posted previously in this thread. Which leads me to believe you don't bother reading anything before you start typing your response.

I'm done discussing things with you since you've now lied and ignored two posts that have previously answered your questions you keep asking.

  • $1,400 per-person checks to struggling Americans
  • $30 billion in rental and critical utilities assistance
  • Expansion of ACA tax credits
  • $20 billion for a national vaccination program
  • $50 billion for an expansion of testing
  • $25 billion in grants to help small restaurants remain open
  • $350 billion in direct support for state and local governments
  • $13 billion for nutrition programs
  • $10 billion to reauthorize the State Small Business Credit Initiative
  • Permanent increase of $130 million/year for child care assistance and expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit & Child Tax Credit
  • $170 billion to help K-12 schools and higher ed institutions re-open
  • 100% fed reimbursement for FEMA resources
  • Extensions to COVID relief programs that offer supplemental unemployment benefits and expanded paid leave for workers affected by COVID
  • $30 billion for supplies and PPE for frontline workers
  • $5 billion for Americans experiencing homelessness
 

rmorse

Well-Known Member
Oh sweet, Yahoo says I only need to pull $140k to live comfortably with a mortgage in this area.


I could sell my home and move to a one bedroom apartment though, at only $122k a year. Still a hell of a lot more than I make but easyliving45 is telling me I should be able to do it. I can probably find something to cut out of my budget, like shoes or food or glasses or something.
 

easyliving45

Active Member
I work at the Navy Yard in DC. Find a home for sale within commutable distance that follows this rule please:


I max out my TSP as I’m planning to retire at some point. My truck is paid off; I own a townhouse down in southern Maryland that I rent out. I bought it as a foreclosure and renovated it while living there; I take home a couple hundo a month after everything’s paid for. 15 year mortgage though, so that’s nice (part of my retirement plan). That extra income is what pushes me up just over the $80k threshold. If I didn’t have that $1300 a month rent check coming in, I’d get the stimulus check. Remember, that’s $1300 before I pay my mortgage, insurance, taxes, HOA, etc. on a $140k house.

I have my main home; I paid $280k for it 4 years ago. It was an absolute sh!thole, which is why I was able to get it. I have completely gutted all 3 bathrooms, redone all the flooring, patched all the holes, redone wiring, etc. I’ve had to do all work myself because go ahead and do the math...that $280k home is about all I should be able to afford on my salary. That doesn’t leave much left over for paying someone to make the home liveable.

If I did not have that skillset, I’d be forced to buy a home that isn’t in need of a ton of repairs. Please find one for me in commutable distance to the Navy Yard that I can afford on $80k AGI a year.

The only reason I’m able to have the rental unit is because I buy used vehicles (no loans) and put cash for everything. I have no debt besides the houses. Keep in mind that people I work with who have the same degree as me tend to carry student loan payments that are as much as the $140k mortgage alone. Not to mention vehicle loans.

I think you don’t fully understand how expensive it is to live on your own, especially in the DC area.


I do. I live between Dupont Circle and Logan circle, I have a second home in Calvert. I understand exactly how expensive life is

Because of the pandemic i was able to refinance my home in Calvert shaving 1% off the interest rate and saving $450 a month.

I was also able to renegotiate my lease this week shaving $400 off the monthly rent of $2995.

I believe a good tax accountant could get you qualified for the stimulus using only your salary and not showing your rental income as actual income but i am not an accountant.


Im sure you don't want to live near the site of the former Barry farm projects but these homes would fit your criteria.


 

rmorse

Well-Known Member
I do. I live between Dupont Circle and Logan circle, I have a second home in Calvert. I understand exactly how expensive life is

Because of the pandemic i was able to refinance my home in Calvert shaving 1% off the interest rate and saving $450 a month.

I was also able to renegotiate my lease this week shaving $400 off the monthly rent of $2995.

I believe a good tax accountant could get you qualified for the stimulus using only your salary and not showing your rental income as actual income but i am not an accountant.


Im sure you don't want to live near the site of the former Barry farm projects but these homes would fit your criteria.



Yikes. A less than 1200 sq foot house in a bad area and an apartment. You do realize you just proved my point, right?
 

easyliving45

Active Member
Yikes. A less than 1200 sq foot house in a bad area and an apartment. You do realize you just proved my point, right?


Do you know how many people live in DC in apartments that are less than 1200 sq ft? probably at least 50%

How is that proving your point?

My pint is it can be down. That place is less than 5 minutes from work. You just don't want to do it.
 

rmorse

Well-Known Member
Think you can find me a house for sale in an area where I’m not going to get robbed? Maybe look for one that’s not rundown (like your first link) or one where it doesn’t have to have bars on all the windows and doors?
 

rmorse

Well-Known Member
Do you know how many people live in DC in apartments that are less than 1200 sq ft? probably at least 50%

How is that proving your point?

My pint is it can be down. That place is less than 5 minutes from work. You just don't want to do it.

It can fit my fiancé and two dogs as well? I guess I can give them up too. I could sacrifice helping my sister with her kids too. Thanks, this has been very enlightening!
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Well again you are wrong.

I am happy to pay for these things which will all either benefit me or benefit other americans that will have a direct impact on my quality of life.

Just because you are a selfish **** doesn't mean your opinion is correct.

This is also all information i posted previously in this thread. Which leads me to believe you don't bother reading anything before you start typing your response.

I'm done discussing things with you since you've now lied and ignored two posts that have previously answered your questions you keep asking.

  • $1,400 per-person checks to struggling Americans
  • $30 billion in rental and critical utilities assistance
  • Expansion of ACA tax credits
  • $20 billion for a national vaccination program
  • $50 billion for an expansion of testing
  • $25 billion in grants to help small restaurants remain open
  • $350 billion in direct support for state and local governments
  • $13 billion for nutrition programs
  • $10 billion to reauthorize the State Small Business Credit Initiative
  • Permanent increase of $130 million/year for child care assistance and expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit & Child Tax Credit
  • $170 billion to help K-12 schools and higher ed institutions re-open
  • 100% fed reimbursement for FEMA resources
  • Extensions to COVID relief programs that offer supplemental unemployment benefits and expanded paid leave for workers affected by COVID
  • $30 billion for supplies and PPE for frontline workers
  • $5 billion for Americans experiencing homelessness
You being generous with other people's money doesn't make your opinion correct, either.

Here are some other things in the bill:
  • $50 million for “family planning” nonprofit organizations like Planned Parenthood
  • $852 million for civic volunteer organizations AmeriCorps, AmeriCorps Vista, and the National Senior Service Corps
  • $470 million for the Institute of Museum and Library Services and the National Endowment of the Arts and the Humanities
  • $86 billion for pension plans; $50 billion for FEMA
  • $39.6 billion for colleges and universities
  • $1.5 billion for Amtrak
  • $128.5 billion to fund K-12 education that the CBO estimates will be paid out between 2022 and 2028 after the pandemic is over
Shall I go on?

By the way, why should one person be taxed at a different rate from other citizen?
 

easyliving45

Active Member
It can fit my fiancé and two dogs as well? I guess I can give them up too. I could sacrifice helping my sister with her kids too. Thanks, this has been very enlightening!


See now you are putting conditions on your statement.

However yes 2 people and 2 dogs can easily fit in 1200 square feet.

I do it in 900 SQ feet. And i have guests regularly.
 

rmorse

Well-Known Member
See now you are putting conditions on your statement.

However yes 2 people and 2 dogs can easily fit in 1200 square feet.

I do it in 900 SQ feet. And i have guests regularly.

Do I have to give up my hobbies too? I have a dirt bike and mtb. They’re pretty much my only hobbies at this point, as I can’t really afford to travel and whatnot.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
See now you are putting conditions on your statement.

However yes 2 people and 2 dogs can easily fit in 1200 square feet.

I do it in 900 SQ feet. And i have guests regularly.
What if 1200 sq ft is not enough for someone else? Are they allowed to choose what they think is sufficient for their needs?
 

easyliving45

Active Member
You being generous with other people's money doesn't make your opinion correct, either.

Here are some other things in the bill:
  • $50 million for “family planning” nonprofit organizations like Planned Parenthood
  • $852 million for civic volunteer organizations AmeriCorps, AmeriCorps Vista, and the National Senior Service Corps
  • $470 million for the Institute of Museum and Library Services and the National Endowment of the Arts and the Humanities
  • $86 billion for pension plans; $50 billion for FEMA
  • $39.6 billion for colleges and universities
  • $1.5 billion for Amtrak
  • $128.5 billion to fund K-12 education that the CBO estimates will be paid out between 2022 and 2028 after the pandemic is over
Shall I go on?

By the way, why should one person be taxed at a different rate from other citizen?


As i said . I am not engaging with you any longer as you've proven you will make a claim and then completely change your argument when proven wrong.


The stimulus does not only provide $1400 in benefit to each american. All the programs i mentioned benefit me in one way or another. Many of the ones you linked benefit me as well.

So your argument of spending $6000 to get $1400 is not true and shows you only think about yourself and how this bill would benefit your wallet. Where was that concern during the Trump tax cuts?
 

rmorse

Well-Known Member
I’m sorry for putting “conditions” on my statement that it’s difficult to live in DC area on my salary. I understand how the details of my life would make it difficult for you to disprove my financial situation. Should I disclose anything else?
 

easyliving45

Active Member
Do I have to give up my hobbies too? I have a dirt bike and mtb. They’re pretty much my only hobbies at this point, as I can’t really afford to travel and whatnot.

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Why? Both those places have ample room to store two bikes. I have a bike i keep in my home. Why cant you

You made a statement and i showed you it was entirely possible. Now you keep trying to change your criteria.
 

easyliving45

Active Member
I’m sorry for putting “conditions” on my statement that it’s difficult to live in DC area on my salary. I understand how the details of my life would make it difficult for you to disprove my financial situation. Should I disclose anything else?


No need. I already proved it was possible. You are the one who keeps making excuses for your living situation and lack of funds.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
As i said . I am not engaging with you any longer as you've proven you will make a claim and then completely change your argument when proven wrong.


The stimulus does not only provide $1400 in benefit to each american. All the programs i mentioned benefit me in one way or another. Many of the ones you linked benefit me as well.

So your argument of spending $6000 to get $1400 is not true and shows you only think about yourself and how this bill would benefit your wallet. Where was that concern during the Trump tax cuts?
I get no benefit out of paying off union retirement losses. I'm guessing you don't, either.

I get nothing out of the money to the Arts except those thinggs I choose to pay to see.

Regarding the tax cuts, I fully believe that the government takes too much of our funding. The government should run on the funding provided, not seek more funding for more things just because they can.
 

rmorse

Well-Known Member
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Why? Both those places have ample room to store two bikes. I have a bike i keep in my home. Why cant you

You made a statement and i showed you it was entirely possible. Now you keep trying to change your criteria.

Sweetheart, my statement was that I’m not seeing a dime of the $1400 and I can’t wait for you to tell me how I’m rich and not struggling. Which you proceeded to do. We then started to flesh out the details behind my life and why I’m not rich and not exactly living a glamorous life. Which are “changing my criteria” I guess lmao.

Hey, while we’re at it, can we throw in planning the wedding? Maybe I can give up the honeymoon since I have no idea how that’s going to happen. I guess we can just go get a cert with our parents watching or whatever.

I’ll have to find an apartment on the ground floor. I can’t exactly carry a 220lb dirt bike up the stairs.
 
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