Ophelia

truby20

Fighting like a girl
Penn said:
Yep, the Weather Channel was saying a new one Philippe, had developed, but the next one, possibly Rita, is the one they're concerned about; could be a monster.

I'm not sure how they discern that, but it's what they alluded to.


Well there is more concern about Rita because of her forecasted track, possibly affecting the Florida Keys then into the Gulf of Mexico, the possibility of even a minor hurricane affecting the LA/MS/AL region is cause for huge concern. The levies are only patched and the ones that weren't breached by Katrina were at least weakend.

Philippe is forecasted to take a more northly direction, probably curving out to sea.

For more info into how they are determining where TD 18 will go check out the discussion from the National Hurricane Center.

Here is a little bit talking about intensity forecasts:
THIS PATTERN CHANGE...ALONG WITH
PLENTY WARM OCEAN WATERS...SHOULD PROVIDE AN ENVIRONMENT SOMEWHAT
MORE FAVORABLE FOR STRENGTHENING...AND THE GFS-BASED SHIPS
DIAGNOSES MUCH LESS SHEAR BEGINNING IN ABOUT 24 HOURS. AS IS OFTEN
THE CASE WITH DEVELOPING SYSTEMS...THE INTENSITY GUIDANCE IS NOT IN
GOOD AGREEMENT. THE GFDL REMAINS FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE...NOT
FORECASTING THE CYCLONE TO BECOME A HURRICANE UNTIL IT IS WELL INTO
THE GULF OF MEXICO. HOWEVER...THE SHIPS FORECASTS A 64 KT
HURRICANE IN 48 HOURS...WITH CONTINUED STRENGTHENING
THEREAFTER...AND THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS SUIT.

Basically the forecasters there use guidance from several computer models and their knowledge of current conditions and where the models have less skill they construct a forecast. The forecasts are issued four times a day (5 am, 11 am, 5 pm, 11 pm EDT) for each storm in the Atlantic. The Weather Channel and other media outlets then relay that forecast to their viewers, occasionally they may disagree with what the National Hurricane Center is forecasting but when they put their graphics up the forecast plot information is from The National Hurricane Center. Based on what the forecast track is NHC will issue watches and warnings, then the local emergency managers determine what type of precautions residents should take (evacuations, gathering supplies, sending people to the superdome...etc).

Water temperatures in the Gulf are in the upper 80's and trade wind conditions are favorable; once Rita gets her act together and gets named I'm sure she will strengthen quickly.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
truby20 said:
Well there is more concern about Rita because of her forecasted track, possibly affecting the Florida Keys then into the Gulf of Mexico, the possibility of even a minor hurricane affecting the LA/MS/AL region is cause for huge concern. The levies are only patched and the ones that weren't breached by Katrina were at least weakend.

Philippe is forecasted to take a more northly direction, probably curving out to sea.

For more info into how they are determining where TD 18 will go check out the discussion from the National Hurricane Center.

Here is a little bit talking about intensity forecasts:


Basically the forecasters there use guidance from several computer models and their knowledge of current conditions and where the models have less skill they construct a forecast. The forecasts are issued four times a day (5 am, 11 am, 5 pm, 11 pm EDT) for each storm in the Atlantic. The Weather Channel and other media outlets then relay that forecast to their viewers, occasionally they may disagree with what the National Hurricane Center is forecasting but when they put their graphics up the forecast plot information is from The National Hurricane Center. Based on what the forecast track is NHC will issue watches and warnings, then the local emergency managers determine what type of precautions residents should take (evacuations, gathering supplies, sending people to the superdome...etc).

Water temperatures in the Gulf are in the upper 80's and trade wind conditions are favorable; once Rita gets her act together and gets named I'm sure she will strengthen quickly.
Thank You!

It may be a bit premature, but is there any way to tell what the timeline is here?
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Forecast for TD18 (soon to be Rita)

Penn said:
It may be a bit premature, but is there any way to tell what the timeline is here?
FORECAST VALID 18/1200Z 22.5N 71.5W
MAX WIND 35 KT...GUSTS 45 KT.

FORECAST VALID 19/0000Z 23.1N 73.6W
MAX WIND 40 KT...GUSTS 50 KT.

FORECAST VALID 19/1200Z 23.6N 75.5W
MAX WIND 50 KT...GUSTS 60 KT.

FORECAST VALID 20/0000Z 24.0N 77.7W (hitting Cat 1 just east of the FL Keys)
MAX WIND 60 KT...GUSTS 75 KT.

FORECAST VALID 21/0000Z 24.5N 82.0W (solid Cat 1 just west of the FL Keys)
MAX WIND 70 KT...GUSTS 85 KT.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM ON DAY 4 AND 325 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 22/0000Z 25.0N 86.0W
MAX WIND 75 KT...GUSTS 90 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 23/0000Z 25.0N 90.5W
MAX WIND 80 KT...GUSTS 100 KT. (not yet turned to the north but if it does look out New Orleans)
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Ken King said:
FORECAST VALID 18/1200Z 22.5N 71.5W
MAX WIND 35 KT...GUSTS 45 KT.

FORECAST VALID 19/0000Z 23.1N 73.6W
MAX WIND 40 KT...GUSTS 50 KT.

FORECAST VALID 19/1200Z 23.6N 75.5W
MAX WIND 50 KT...GUSTS 60 KT.

FORECAST VALID 20/0000Z 24.0N 77.7W (hitting Cat 1 just east of the FL Keys)
MAX WIND 60 KT...GUSTS 75 KT.

FORECAST VALID 21/0000Z 24.5N 82.0W (solid Cat 1 just west of the FL Keys)
MAX WIND 70 KT...GUSTS 85 KT.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM ON DAY 4 AND 325 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 22/0000Z 25.0N 86.0W
MAX WIND 75 KT...GUSTS 90 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 23/0000Z 25.0N 90.5W
MAX WIND 80 KT...GUSTS 100 KT. (not yet turned to the north but if it does look out New Orleans)
Thanks Ken! :yay:

Uhhh, I guess they better step up the work on those levees? :whistle:
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
New projections on Rita (she has earned her name) show her drawing a bead on Texas and getting stronger too. See here .
 
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canuk woman

Guest
tomchamp said:
They never hit you canuks...like terrorists...just enjoy living on our roof!

what i'm really sick of is hearing all the coverage of it sure to me it looked cool last year but now my brain has matured and think it's just stupid that mother nature has to be a bully with the weather
 

nomoney

....
canuk woman said:
what i'm really sick of is hearing all the coverage of it sure to me it looked cool last year but now my brain has matured and think it's just stupid that mother nature has to be a bully with the weather

Peanut doesn't like bully's either; you should pm him.
 

rack'm

Jaded
canuk woman said:
what i'm really sick of is hearing all the coverage of it sure to me it looked cool last year but now my brain has matured and think it's just stupid that mother nature has to be a bully with the weather


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Ehesef

Yo Gabba Gabba
canuk woman said:
what i'm really sick of is hearing all the coverage of it sure to me it looked cool last year but now my brain has matured and think it's just stupid that mother nature has to be a bully with the weather
Jesus Jones. Your brain has matured?
 

truby20

Fighting like a girl
truby20 said:
According to the WMO if a storm develops after we have a "Wilma" cyclone it will be given the name "Alpha"...we will start using the greek alphabet.

The full listing

Can you see residents writing "Go Away Gamma!" on the plywood over their windows? Or the concerts for Epsilon relief?!?

With 73 days left in the official season we may see it...

Tropical Storm Epsilon developed this morning in the open Atlantic; no impact to land is expected.
 
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