CPUSA
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So many words...So little intelligence spoken....
Pence says....
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Chopticon64
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I’m honestly curious, if he’s not getting better at being a politician, what exactly will be different when he wins in November? It seems his biggest challenge was working with congress, which might even flip to be democratic lead, at least in the house. Nicki Haley has executive experience as a governor, was our UN represenative, seems to be able to get things done.
Is it still that he says rediculoius things, like “Drain the Swamp”? He was president for 4 years, what did he truly change? He’s older now, seems to have made more enemies and I haven’t heard any different ideas than in 2016.
He isn't getting better as a politician because he isn't one, he is a leader. He isn't easily swayed as a politician is. He is working for the people and the country, not his next election.
Funny you mention Haley's experience, she was appointed by Trump to the UN and her home state chose Trump over her in this primary. What does that tell you?
Until the world was besieged by Covid-19, things were really working pretty damn good even with all the TDS crap going on. So, those "old" ideas might be a good place to restart to bring the establishment machine back into check.
Chopticon64
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So, vibes? Who is he leading? His core group of supporters which hasn’t expanded?
It tells me that Trump still has a very impassioned base of support, I never denied that. I see it here daily.
Ok, so ignore the last 25% of his term when the country went into shambles and we’re still dealing with the impact of decisions made then.
Will he really lock Hillary up this time? Really get the wall built? Really repeal and replace Obamacare?
SamSpade
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The entire WORLD was hit with the pandemic and all of them had to deal with economic downturns and death.
I understood that things would get worse for a while.
I don’t recall things getting REALLY bad until Joe came.
Trump’s supporters don’t fault him for the FACT that a global pandemic that gobsmacked the world is his fault. What Biden has done SINCE - that’s on him.
That’s it exactly.
And it probably wouldn’t of had to if Joe had just left crap alone, and not going on this tangent of reversing every decision Trump made.
Everything from March 2021 forward is Joes TDS & stupidity.
It really was getting built...and right smartly so. Then the new Vegetable-n-Chief came along... you need to get some fresh talking points loaded in.
CPUSA
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So, vibes? Who is he leading? His core group of supporters which hasn’t expanded? Lololololol!!!! OMG you are an absolute hoot!!! The only thing that hasn't expanded since 2020 is your ability to form an intelligent thought....
It tells me that Trump still has a very impassioned base of support, I never denied that. I see it here daily. And you see it growing every day, especially in Democrat run inner cities. Black women want to be him...hell, just look at Joy Reid!!
Ok, so ignore the last 25% of his term when the country went into shambles and we’re still dealing with the impact of decisions made then. Actually, it's that last 25% his base & support are primarily focused on these days...it was that cruddy chit, orchestrated by the CIA & ths DNC, that has approx. 89% of America voting for President Trump...
Will he really lock Hillary up this time? Really get the wall built? Really repeal and replace Obamacare? Will the DNC be cheating again & steal this election? Will they burn down America again? Will the DNC collude with CHina again?
So you weren't honestly interested, you just wanted to throw out some snark and revert to your TDS ways.
Hell yeah build the wall "get r done", then look at the northern border too, lots of those communist liberal asses up there and we don't need them either. As to Obamacare, it sure does cost a lot (especially since all them illegals are starting to suck that teat too).
He will lead the nation, all of it. Has a day gone by since Biden took office where he actually sought to unite the nation? All you hear from him is Trump and MAGA people .....
No, look at his term in its completeness. Look at the fight he had with the established machine. Congress did him no favors at all, both Dem and GOP were trying their best to derail him. It took the US backed bio-lab in China and almost all of media to create enough chaos to throw blame at him.
Is this all you got? Hillary should have been locked up, except one thing. The Obama government knew what she was doing with the private server and that started the clock for her prosecution with regard to statute of limitations. We poor normal folk didn't get to hear about it until the 2016 campaign season.
Hell yeah build the wall "get r done", then look at the northern border too, lots of those communist liberal asses up there and we don't need them either. As to Obamacare, it sure does cost a lot (especially since all them illegals are starting to suck that teat too).
Hijinx
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Trying to explain things to people who already know the answer.
Chopticon and others who have TDS know the facts, they know we were energy independent inflation was not high, we didn't have illegals surging all over the country, Russia and the Ukraine were not fighting and Trump was making peace treaties in the middle east. and kicking Irans ass.
They know that Biden opened the border destroyed our energy independence and gave Billion of dollars to Iran so they could support terrorists in the Middle east. They know these things why tell them again.
They have TDS and there is no cure, it rots the mind as badly and drugs, and turns common sense to mush.
They will vote Democrat because they are told to by the liberal-radical- treasonous turds in politics that they do listen to.
Chopticon and others who have TDS know the facts, they know we were energy independent inflation was not high, we didn't have illegals surging all over the country, Russia and the Ukraine were not fighting and Trump was making peace treaties in the middle east. and kicking Irans ass.
They know that Biden opened the border destroyed our energy independence and gave Billion of dollars to Iran so they could support terrorists in the Middle east. They know these things why tell them again.
They have TDS and there is no cure, it rots the mind as badly and drugs, and turns common sense to mush.
They will vote Democrat because they are told to by the liberal-radical- treasonous turds in politics that they do listen to.
"Working with Congress" has always meant "Give the Democrats what stupid thing they want." Ditto "compromise".
I look at it more like Congress didn't want to work with Trump, as evidenced by the vote that killed the end of Obamacare.....which came from another Republican. A Republican, btw, who was adamant that Obamacare had to go...until he had the opportunity to stick it to Trump.
So I will say Trump's biggest failure was thinking other Republicans were on his side. Next is him being naive enough to think our elected officials actually gave a damn about more than money grubbing and war games. Especially when they locked down the whole country and almost destroyed us over their made up virus.
What will change is that Trump knows better now. He knows what these people are and will be dealing with them differently. The swamp rats are all crying that Trump will want revenge - buddy, I hope so. I hope with all my heart he goes after those bastards the way they deserve. Politics sucks and should have no place in our republic. Those crooks have forgotten that WE are the bosses, not them.
They derided Trump as a "populist" when they should ALL be populists.
Are you seriously trying to blame Trump for that?
Grumpy
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She's doing as she's told, one of millions of useful idiots.
Chopticon64
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Didn’t take long for the name calling and attacks to start against me.
Not sure where you folks are getting the idea that we are less energy independent than we were under Trump, we’re breaking records daily for oil production. We pump more oil than any other nation and that’s only increased since Biden has been in office:
www.foxbusiness.com
It’s pointless for me to weigh in on Trump’s response to the pandemic. In this thread you’ve got folks saying it was from a US backed Chinese bio-lab and others saying it was a fake virus.
Which was it? Trump is the one that started daily briefings and created project warp speed to make the vaccines. You folks aren’t even on the same page about his response to the most impactful part of his term.
Not sure where you folks are getting the idea that we are less energy independent than we were under Trump, we’re breaking records daily for oil production. We pump more oil than any other nation and that’s only increased since Biden has been in office:
US led global oil production for sixth straight year in 2023
The Energy Information Administration released a report finding that the U.S. led the world in oil production for the sixth consecutive year, topping Russia and Saudi Arabia.
It’s pointless for me to weigh in on Trump’s response to the pandemic. In this thread you’ve got folks saying it was from a US backed Chinese bio-lab and others saying it was a fake virus.
Which was it? Trump is the one that started daily briefings and created project warp speed to make the vaccines. You folks aren’t even on the same page about his response to the most impactful part of his term.
Thin skin huh?
And from the eia.gov site -
You doubt it came from the Wuhan lab? You doubt US involvement with that lab? Xi Jinping flat out said it was an American virus, did you miss that?
Okay, should Trump have done nothing once the CDC alerted to the outbreak in Jan 2020? It seems he went with the best and brightest in the field and what they were telling him. Sort of makes sense doesn't it? Until we found out that they were neither the best nor brightest.
Chopticon64
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We were never truly “energy independent” under Trump, we always imported some types of crude oil.
I don’t believe Xi Jinping, the Chinese lied through the entire pandemic, of course they would blame us.
Okay, that doesn't really square with what you said above now does it?
I guess you missed all the "gain of function" discussions involving Fauci.
