Pittbulls...not for the weak stomach..

CandyRain

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SouthernMdRocks said:
Pixie, I was referring to the comment you made about "So barking warrants a kick? ". I just don't think that makes sense. I never said they as a breed were inherintly bad. What I did state is that they are unpredictable, aren't a breed they I personally care for and that the fault of what happened should be on their owner.
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Can we at least agree that inherently is spelled with all "e"s, no "is"s? TYVM.
 
vraiblonde

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Pixie, you are a dangerous owner because you think for some reason that you have a little poodle and not a muscular dog that could do some damage if they got the notion. Maybe some little mutt was nipping at Baby G, but I guarantee you it would be a lot different if a pitbull got ahold of him.

CDC says that pitbulls cause the most injuries and deaths of any breed of dog. You countered by saying the CDC stats are crap (which is better than your usual argument about how you and only you even knows what a pitbull looks like, so therefore none of those dogs they call "pitbull" are even really pitbulls).

SoMDRocks says her horse was mauled by a pitbull in it's OWN pasture, and you tried to say that the horse must have provoked it in some way.

Dumb! Dumb dumb dumb! :rolleyes:
 
jazz lady

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vraiblonde said:
SoMDRocks says her horse was mauled by a pitbull in it's OWN pasture, and you tried to say that the horse must have provoked it in some way.
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I was trying to find any articles on horse's attacking (and I can't find any other than one where a horse head-butted a lady into a tree :lmao: ) and found this:

Pit bull in attack at park trained to be companion
SPCA volunteer's dog may have been spooked by horse

The pit bull mix that attacked a police horse in Golden Gate Park belonged to an SPCA volunteer who took the dog to senior centers to comfort the elderly and liked to let it run free in the park.

On Monday, the SPCA volunteer, Anna Klafter, was recovering from a possible fractured skull and other injuries she suffered the day before when she tried to pull her 4-year-old dog, Nettie, away from the horse. The horse, which injured Klafter when it kicked her in the face, was trying to get its bearings back to the police stables in Golden Gate Park. The police officer who was riding the horse was getting over a back injury.

And Nettie was at the vet, suffering from a gunshot wound and facing a police hearing on her fate.

The dog attacked the police horse, named AAA Andy, on Sunday afternoon when Klafter let her off her leash to play with other dogs near the Conservatory of Flowers, something she had done before. The dog had been through extensive training and behavior tests that had shown her to be sociable, Klafter said, so she didn't see any harm in it.

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"She's never shown any aggression to people, kids or other dogs," said Klafter, 27, who has owned Nettie since June 2002. "I think she was freaked out by seeing a horse for the first time."

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Nettie was given basic behavior evaluations by Animal Care and Control in addition to an aggression test for pit bulls.

"We make sure they are good companions who like to be hugged and petted," said Deb Campbell, a spokeswoman for Animal Care and Control.

She was tested again by the SPCA and trained for animal assisted therapy, a 22-year-old program in which dogs are taken to homeless shelters, children's hospitals and nursing homes to interact with people.

Netty received references from eight people after Klafter adopted her, including animal trainers from the SPCA and Animal Care and Control, and received no negative reports.

Though Nettie's response to children and seniors was tested, she had never met a horse, Crain said. The novelty may have caused her to give way to her aggressive instincts, he said.

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Police said dogs were a constant problem for the department's mounted patrol.

"This is the biggest hazard we face," Downs said. "We hear all the time, 'Oh, I didn't know that the dog would attack the horse.' "
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So the dog had been specially trained and tested extensively for aggression, and still freaked out and attacked a horse totally unprovoked. Natural prey drive, indeed. :coffee:
 
mAlice

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jazz lady said:
I was trying to find any articles on horse's attacking (and I can't find any other than one where a horse head-butted a lady into a tree :lmao: ) and found this:



So the dog had been specially trained and tested extensively for aggression, and still freaked out and attacked a horse totally unprovoked. Natural prey drive, indeed. :coffee:
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Pixie, you gonna' take that? :popcorn:
 
Pasofever

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Somdrocks horse died :frown: and really suffered before she did...what could a little mini horse do to provoke a dog? Nothing..:sad:
 
vraiblonde

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jazz lady said:
So the dog had been specially trained and tested extensively for aggression, and still freaked out and attacked a horse totally unprovoked. Natural prey drive, indeed. :coffee:
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Not only that but:
The novelty may have caused her to give way to her aggressive instincts, he said
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But I'm sure Pixie will come on tomorrow and tell us that this SPCA worker was really an animal abuser who made her dog vicious. Then she'll tell us that the horse shouldn't have provoked the dog by even existing. And last she will tell us that the dog probably wasn't a pitbull anyway because she, Pixie, wasn't there to inspect it and ONLY SHE even knows what a pitbull looks like.

:coffee:
 
jazz lady

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And in response to my anonymous karma giver...

No one is saying that dogs arent aggressive, but You and SouthernMD are mistaken if you dont think Horses can be Vicious also, do a google search on "Aggressive Horses" and let us know what you get
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I never said horses couldn't be aggressive. I've had dogs all my life and have been around horses most of it, too. I know that some horses, especially stallions, can be aggressive and in fact have been attacked by one. I've also had my fair share of attacks by dogs. But dog attacks are FAR more prevalent than horse attacks and there are many more fatal attacks by dogs than by horses.

But there are some huge differences between horses and dogs. Dogs are carnivores and natural predators, with the instinct for killing other animals and feeding on their meat. Horses are herbivores and forage for plant food. They do not kill animals for food and thus do not have that same instinct. Horses, unlike dogs, are also not bred to enhance their natural aggressive traits so they can perform certain functions, like guard dogs, police dogs and fighting dogs. Rhodesian Ridgebacks were bred specifically to hunt lions. Dachshunds were designed to hunt badgers. Dobermans were bred with specific traits to function as police and watch dogs. Rottweilers (and I have a Rottie mix) were originally war dogs, bred and trained to attack enemy soldiers. The list goes on and on. These traits are bred into the dogs and they have that natural instinct to act upon them.

So yes, I do know what I'm talking about and have the experience with and education about both types of creatures to back it up.
 
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Angel

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Good Lawd Ya'll... This Thread has gone crazy... :jameo:

All of the Pitts I have ever met have been sweet as pie. I account it to how they were raised and trained and not their breeding. :shrug:
 
Cowgirl

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jazz lady said:
I never said horses couldn't be aggressive. I've had dogs all my life and have been around horses most of it, too. I know that some horses, especially stallions, can be aggressive and in fact have been attacked by one. I've also had my fair share of attacks by dogs. But dog attacks are FAR more prevalent than horse attacks and there are many more fatal attacks by dogs than by horses.

But there are some huge differences between horses and dogs. Dogs are carnivores and natural predators, with the instinct for killing other animals and feeding on their meat. Horses are herbivores and forage for plant food. They do not kill animals for food and thus do not have that same instinct. Horses, unlike dogs, are also not bred to enhance their natural aggressive traits so they can perform certain functions, like guard dogs, police dogs and fighting dogs. Rhodesian Ridgebacks were bred specifically to hunt lions. Dachshunds were designed to hunt badgers. Dobermans were bred with specific traits to function as police and watch dogs. Rottweilers (and I have a Rottie mix) were originally war dogs, bred and trained to attack enemy soldiers. The list goes on and on. These traits are bred into the dogs and they have that natural instinct to act upon them.

So yes, I do know what I'm talking about and have the experience with and education about both types of creatures to back it up.
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:huggy: :love:
 
GallopNTec

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pixiegirl said:
Obviously you don't because everything you wrote before that was retarded. And, I've worked in a vets office and seen many a dog that have been kicked by a horse. So to claim that a horse would never do anything to provoke an attack is absurd.

Apparently you missed the part where I said it was the owners of the dogs that should be held responsible. :yay:
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Think I missed most of the thread BUT having worked in the veterinary field for many years this is my take:
1. you cannot trust a dog because of it's breed( attacked by a LAB)
2. you cannot NOT trust a dog because of its breed.
3.Certain dog breeds were and are bred for reasons( hunting, protection..)
it is instinct and will never go away.( why get a dog bred to kill Lions and keep in an apartment.)
4.IF IT HAS TEETH IT CAN BITE
5.Pissed off cats are way scarier than dogs.


Owners should be responsible for their pets. We do have opposable thumbs!
 
cattitude

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Cowgirl said:
:killingme :yeahthat:

You must've been hit by the same karma fairy that I was!
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Pretty funny because I was didn't say one word pro or con for pitbulls. I was just posting pics of my dogs...which are Boxers, but, by the way, are often mistaken for pitbulls when we're out in public.
 
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