Police Officers Acquitted

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

The whole thing that got me is when he said I have no place to question a verdict, yet everybody about O.J. Simpson under the same pretense that they weren't actually there. :shrug:

 

[donbarzini]

The warning shots was an inane statement, and I stated I wasn't there, but MMDad just wants to keep with it. :shrug:

My problem is, they unloaded everything they had on this car. We don't have all the facts on this because none of us were there.

MMDad says I shouldn't question a verdict, so I won't. Verdicts are always right. O.J.'s a free man. :shrug:

My only problem with this case is that they unloaded on him ASSuming he had a gun. This just sets a dangerous precedent, imo. There should've been something. I'm not necessairly blaming the cops, I think it was inexperience more than anything just like when they shot the snake out of the tree. It just upsets me that the family is shafted by the legal system and NOTHING, to the public's immedaete(sp?) knowledge, is done for them.

I just have a problem with what this states officers can and cannot do under assumptions.

Let's say for a second they pull you over for a simple traffic violation and ask for your license and registration. We'll say you look like someone who could be a drug dealer or something. You decide, in the interest of safety of important documents, to keep them locked up in your glove box. So, you go to unlock it. Now, let's just say officer assumes you might have a gun in there, he pulls his out and unloads.

Different scenario, I know. But, we'll say that the courts then decide because he's an officer of the law, he can make dangerous assumptions and nobody see any justice or anything out of it.

I agree with Johnny's theory. I think the undercover cops' initial actions at these men scared them and they thought they were being chased by thugs. They were there over prostitution for chrissake, they shouldn't have been armed in the first place. If they weren't armed and didn't pull out any guns at any time, this whole thing could've possibly been avoided.

It's just a dangerous precedent, imo. Just like with the cops shooting the snake, they acted out of fear and inexperience and completely screwed everything up.

Update me, Don. What ever happened with that?

Don't know kid. I pulled out of that thread after I had pretty much hijacked it arguing with moron. And as far as comparing this case to OJ goes? I gotta ding you on that too. OJ's case was decided by a jury who let the emotion and commotion affect their thinking. This case was decided by a judge who looks strictly at the law(and reasonable doubt)and nothing else.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

Let's say for a second they pull you over for a simple traffic violation and ask for your license and registration. We'll say you look like someone who could be a drug dealer or something. You decide, in the interest of safety of important documents, to keep them locked up in your glove box. So, you go to unlock it. Now, let's just say officer assumes you might have a gun in there, he pulls his out and unloads.

I had thought about/pictured this same scenario the day I first read this thread .

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Don't know kid. I pulled out of that thread after I had pretty much hijacked it arguing with moron. And as far as comparing this case to OJ goes? I gotta ding you on that too. OJ's case was decided by a jury who let the emotion and commotion affect their thinking. This case was decided by a judge who looks strictly at the law(and reasonable doubt)and nothing else.

I think there was reasonable doubt in the OJ Simpson case. A racist cop shooting off the "N" word is definently something that should be taken into account. Isn't it possible that a cop with a grudge again a certain class of beings could easily have influence over evidence and other things.

I believe 100% that OJ killed his wife. However, the defense had a damn good case and the prosecution let all theirs rest on a spiteful, hateful, racist cop.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I had thought about/pictured this same scenario the day I first read this thread .

Yep. I guess I should put my registration somewhere else where it can get stolen that way I'm not mistaken for having a gun.

 

[MMDad]

And, I said I was wrong about that.

No, you didn't. The closest you've gotten to admitting you were wrong included stuff about OJ also being innocent.

 

[MMDad]

The whole thing that got me is when he said I have no place to question a verdict, yet everybody about O.J. Simpson under the same pretense that they weren't actually there. :shrug:

No, you were questioning the verdict without even knowing anything about the case. If you could come up with an argument based on the facts of the case, I would never have questioned you.

 

[MMDad]

I think there was reasonable doubt in the OJ Simpson case. A racist cop shooting off the "N" word is definently something that should be taken into account. Isn't it possible that a cop with a grudge again a certain class of beings could easily have influence over evidence and other things.

I believe 100% that OJ killed his wife. However, the defense had a damn good case and the prosecution let all theirs rest on a spiteful, hateful, racist cop.

That isn't what got OJ acquitted. Furman denied using that word and being a racist. Then he was shown to have used that word. That made everything he said on the stand suspect. If he was willing to lie about that, how could you believe anything he said?

If Furman had been 100% truthful about everything, even the less than pleasant stuff, OJ may have been convicted.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

No, you were questioning the verdict without even knowing anything about the case. If you could come up with an argument based on the facts of the case, I would never have questioned you.

 

[MMDad]

Get out of bed with him. His first post in this thread was about warning shots. He went on to show that he knew nothing about the case.

 

[puggymom]

Plus wasn't a lot of the OJ case based on DNA BEFORE it was well know like it is now? I thought heard that the science behind it (pre the Maury paternity test episodes) just went over the average person head.

 

[sommpd]

Plus wasn't a lot of the OJ case based on DNA BEFORE it was well know like it is now? I thought heard that the science behind it (pre the Maury paternity test episodes) just went over the average person head.

I don't think society bases their views on DNA on Maury..lol.

 

[sommpd]

Now see.....I tried in my last two posts to be as polite as I possibly could. I even complimented your department. So you know what? You haven't seen me rant yet, Sunshine. I really am through with you, you moron. You are an embarrasment to every real police officer I have ever met. Talk about bottom of the barrel? That's too good for you. When you pick up the barrel and see the white slime that grows around the edges? That's where you reside you bottom-dwelling useless piece of garbage. And if I ever saw you IRL I wouldn't pizz down your throat if your heart was on fire.

You know Don, one of the first back and forth between us was you chastising me because I called others names and supposedly let the thread get to me. Well after reading this post from you, aren't you doing the same thing? You have some anger management issues. I certainly hope in your little squad there that you don't treat your people this way. I am seriously doubting that you are any type of supervisor, or if you are it is soley because of your age and attrition. To call a fellow law enforcement officer, a brother, a piece of garbage because they disagree with you is really reprehensible.

I forgive you though Don, and if you need assistance, I a professional law enforcement officer will always be there for you. I would never let my personal feelings about someone effect my responsibility or the oath I took. You should remember your oath as well, or perhaps it doesn't mean anything to you?

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

You know Don, one of the first back and forth between us was you chastising me because I called others names and supposedly let the thread get to me. Well after reading this post from you, aren't you doing the same thing? You have some anger management issues. I certainly hope in your little squad there that you don't treat your people this way. I am seriously doubting that you are any type of supervisor, or if you are it is soley because of your age and attrition. To call a fellow law enforcement officer, a brother, a piece of garbage because they disagree with you is really reprehensible.

I forgive you though Don, and if you need assistance, I a professional law enforcement officer will always be there for you. I would never let my personal feelings about someone effect my responsibility or the oath I took. You should remember your oath as well, or perhaps it doesn't mean anything to you?

deja-vu?