Police Officers Acquitted

[CalvertNewbie]

It seems that every time a cop shoots someone, no matter what the outcome of the case is, there will be those who will still bash the cops. They were acquitted, found innocent. Am I happy an unarmed man was killed? Of course not. My heart goes out to his family and especially his fiancee.

But guess what? If a cop tells me to stop, I'll have the common sense to stop, hands in the air and all. These types of shootings have happened all too often because people don't listen to an officer's command. For those of you who have never been to the ghettos of New York (and yes, there are a lot of them!), I would love for you to go on a ride-along with the NYPD on any night of the week. I guarantee that you'd be more understanding of what they go through on a daily basis. They are in hell every day and I wouldn't do their job no matter what they offered to pay me.

 

[Mdcopswife]

It seems that every time a cop shoots someone, no matter what the outcome of the case is, there will be those who will still bash the cops. They were acquitted, found innocent. Am I happy an unarmed man was killed? Of course not. My heart goes out to his family and especially his fiancee.

But guess what? If a cop tells me to stop, I'll have the common sense to stop, hands in the air and all. These types of shootings have happened all too often because people don't listen to an officer's command. For those of you who have never been to the ghettos of New York (and yes, there are a lot of them!), I would love for you to go on a ride-along with the NYPD on any night of the week. I guarantee that you'd be more understanding of what they go through on a daily basis. They are in hell every day and I wouldn't do their job no matter what they offered to pay me.

 

[sommpd]

Okay, you've already said it was wrong. You haven't explained how it was wrong, so you must have misunderstood my question. Perhaps I didn't phrase it properly. So let me try another way. What, specifically, in the statement I made was wrong?

Okay, you've already said it was wrong. You haven't explained how it was wrong, so you must have misunderstood my question. Perhaps I didn't phrase it properly. So let me try another way. What, specifically, in the statement I made was wrong?

Ok, I will write this slow for you.

departments will only purchase and furnish one type of weapon

This doesn't happen in the department I work in. There are other progressive departments which fit their officers with weapons suitable for them, and train their officers in other than static targets. It’s funny how you call Barney, yet you work for the department that is stuck in the 60’s and doesn’t train it’s officers progressively. I take this as a sign of insecurity, and reveals your feelings of inadequacy. You should seek help.

 

[donbarzini]

Ok, I will write this slow for you.



This doesn't happen in the department I work in. There are other progressive departments which fit their officers with weapons suitable for them, and train their officers in other than static targets. It’s funny how you call Barney, yet you work for the department that is stuck in the 60’s and doesn’t train it’s officers progressively. I take this as a sign of insecurity, and reveals your feelings of inadequacy. You should seek help.

You can take it any way you would like to. I feel perfectly secure in what I said. Other than the fact that I admitted I should have included the word most. Do you really think that most departments are as enlightened as yours is?

 

[sommpd]

You can take it any way you would like to. I feel perfectly secure in what I said. Other than the fact that I admitted I should have included the word most. Do you really think that most departments are as enlightened as yours is?

I am not as pompous as you and can't comment on what other departments are doing unless I know. You obviously don't let facts get in the way of your rants.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I am not as pompous as you and can't comment on what other departments are doing unless I know. You obviously don't let facts get in the way of your rants.

I'm glad I got that post out of the way.

 

[donbarzini]

I am not as pompous as you and can't comment on what other departments are doing unless I know. You obviously don't let facts get in the way of your rants.

Now see.....I tried in my last two posts to be as polite as I possibly could. I even complimented your department. So you know what? You haven't seen me rant yet, Sunshine. I really am through with you, you moron. You are an embarrasment to every real police officer I have ever met. Talk about bottom of the barrel? That's too good for you. When you pick up the barrel and see the white slime that grows around the edges? That's where you reside you bottom-dwelling useless piece of garbage. And if I ever saw you IRL I wouldn't pizz down your throat if your heart was on fire.

 

[virgovictoria]

In effort not to get trampled by the big knowledgeable brains and egos, I merely skipped around in this tread (lightly ) in hopes to find out if any news has broken on how Big Al plans to shut down the city until he investigates this more thoroughly (heard it on Fox this morning) and gets answers!

Talk about big head and ego..

 

[CalvertNewbie]

Now see.....I tried in my last two posts to be as polite as I possibly could. I even complimented your department. So you know what? You haven't seen me rant yet, Sunshine. I really am through with you, you moron. You are an embarrasment to every real police officer I have ever met. Talk about bottom of the barrel? That's too good for you. When you pick up the barrel and see the white slime that grows around the edges? That's where you reside you bottom-dwelling useless piece of garbage. And if I ever saw you IRL I wouldn't pizz down your throat if your heart was on fire.

Wow, don't hold back, tell us how ya really feel!! Talk about a visual with that last sentence!!

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Now see.....I tried in my last two posts to be as polite as I possibly could. I even complimented your department. So you know what? You haven't seen me rant yet, Sunshine. I really am through with you, you moron. You are an embarrasment to every real police officer I have ever met. Talk about bottom of the barrel? That's too good for you. When you pick up the barrel and see the white slime that grows around the edges? That's where you reside you bottom-dwelling useless piece of garbage. And if I ever saw you IRL I wouldn't pizz down your throat if your heart was on fire.

Thank you Don. That just made my day.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Wow, don't hold back, tell us how ya really feel!! Talk about a visual with that last sentence!!

Freakin' hilarious!

 

[MMDad]

Warning shots? Are you serious?

Care to explain how "warning shots" are a good idea?

Come on, Andy. You are the one who said they should have fired warning shots. Why?
...

Why waste time firing a warning shot and letting the bad guy get a shot off at you?

Next, what should he have fired the warning shot at? One of the surrounding buildings where he could hit an innocent? Up in the air where it could come down on an innocent? At the pavement where the ricochet could hit an innocent or one of the other officers?

Tell me, Andy. You said they should have fired a warning shot. Please explain.

Now, answer the rest of the question. Where should he have fired the "warning shot?" Who should he have endangered?

Answer the earlier questions. Who should he have shot with the "warning shot?"

why do you think they should have fired warning shots?

Andy, I would really like you to answer this question, so I'm going to ask respectfully and seriously. In what direction would you want those officers to have fired those warning shots?

I asked him about that earlier and he still hasn't answered me. So I'll ask again. Hey Andy, where would you suggest the officers aim their firearms when they fire these warning shots that you are so adamant about?

Freakin' hilarious!

:shrug:

 

[donbarzini]

:shrug:

karma

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

:shrug:

I guess I do have to type it slow.

I wasn't there. I don't care what happened, and I'm entitled to an opinion.

I didn't realize I had to be royalty, like you, and have to be everywhere at once, like you, to have an opinion.

It's my opinion, wrong as it may be.

And, quite honestly, I don't give two chits what happened. But go ahead and keep , it's what you do best.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Fine, I'll say what you want to be said.

I was wrong, these cops did nothing wrong. Every verdict handed down in history has been accurate, and nobody has the right to question them. :shrug:

Happy?

 

[donbarzini]

Andy, seriously, you can't fire warning shots. Think about it for a second. Where are you going to aim? Up? There's gravity. Down? Ricochet. Right? Left? Buildings all over the place. Hell, you remember the last thread me and smcop/mpd got into it over was the cop that tried to shoot that snake. You HAVE to know your "background".

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Who the frick do you think you are to be questioning the verdict?

Yep, you're right here. Verdicts should NEVER be questioned, wrong as they could possibly be.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

Yep, you're right here. Verdicts should NEVER be questioned, wrong as they could possibly be.

In regards to your PM...




They do have you on the warning shot comment though.....

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Andy, seriously, you can't fire warning shots. Think about it for a second. Where are you going to aim? Up? There's gravity. Down? Ricochet. Right? Left? Buildings all over the place. Hell, you remember the last thread me and smcop/mpd got into it over was the cop that tried to shoot that snake. You HAVE to know your "background".

The warning shots was an inane statement, and I stated I wasn't there, but MMDad just wants to keep with it. :shrug:

My problem is, they unloaded everything they had on this car. We don't have all the facts on this because none of us were there.

MMDad says I shouldn't question a verdict, so I won't. Verdicts are always right. O.J.'s a free man. :shrug:

My only problem with this case is that they unloaded on him ASSuming he had a gun. This just sets a dangerous precedent, imo. There should've been something. I'm not necessairly blaming the cops, I think it was inexperience more than anything just like when they shot the snake out of the tree. It just upsets me that the family is shafted by the legal system and NOTHING, to the public's immedaete(sp?) knowledge, is done for them.

I just have a problem with what this states officers can and cannot do under assumptions.

Let's say for a second they pull you over for a simple traffic violation and ask for your license and registration. We'll say you look like someone who could be a drug dealer or something. You decide, in the interest of safety of important documents, to keep them locked up in your glove box. So, you go to unlock it. Now, let's just say officer assumes you might have a gun in there, he pulls his out and unloads.

Different scenario, I know. But, we'll say that the courts then decide because he's an officer of the law, he can make dangerous assumptions and nobody see any justice or anything out of it.

I agree with Johnny's theory. I think the undercover cops' initial actions at these men scared them and they thought they were being chased by thugs. They were there over prostitution for chrissake, they shouldn't have been armed in the first place. If they weren't armed and didn't pull out any guns at any time, this whole thing could've possibly been avoided.

It's just a dangerous precedent, imo. Just like with the cops shooting the snake, they acted out of fear and inexperience and completely screwed everything up.

Update me, Don. What ever happened with that?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

In regards to your PM...




They do have you on the warning shot comment though.....

And, I said I was wrong about that. But, MM doesn't want to quote that and just wants to drag the whole thing out for personal gratification.

Like I said, he's got a stick up his azz.