Polls start to raise some eyebrows...

Hessian

Hessian

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**Kamala is polling below Biden in several areas despite him hiding in the basement 80% of the campaign...

**Quinnipiac poll 10-7...has Trump up by 4%...in MICHIGAN!. That was not an outlier, apparently two other polls of LVs showed 2-4% LEAD by Trump.
(I wonder if Kamala will notice what Trump did in 2016 and Hillary completely missed??)
**Pennsylvania? October 9, 2020: Biden +7.1 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +9.4....so how far is Kamala ahead in Pa? She is NOT,...Trump has a fractional edge over her.
** WIsconsin?? October 9, 2020: Biden +5.5 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +6.3...Where is Harris now? .5% lead.....Trump beat Hillary by .77% in 2016
**Georgia?? The RCP average has Trump UP about 1.5% over the past 8+ polls. It is NOT in play for "Toss Up" any longer.
**Arizona?? Yup, about the same margin as Georgia...Trump scoring noticeably over Harris. Trump won 9 of the last twelve polls.
**North Carolina?? October 9, 2020: Biden +1.8 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +2.6...so is Kamala up there? (NO)...Trump has won 11/13 polls there in the past 4 weeks, The margin is tight, but clearly out performing Biden & Clinton at this point in the race.

So bottom line? Some of the 'Toss Ups' actually should be shifting to "Leaning Red"
I generally dislike polls but,...with Tim Walz screaming about doing away with the electoral college, you KNOW he has also seen some insider polls that look grim for the Leftist faction.
Time for the Operation Chaos Leftists to plan their 3 AM count coup in key urban centers where there are no objective watchers...AND time for Republicans to set up cameras again to demonstrate the played out steal.
 
glhs837

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Hessian said:
**Kamala is polling below Biden in several areas despite him hiding in the basement 80% of the campaign...

**Quinnipiac poll 10-7...has Trump up by 4%...in MICHIGAN!. That was not an outlier, apparently two other polls of LVs showed 2-4% LEAD by Trump.
(I wonder if Kamala will notice what Trump did in 2016 and Hillary completely missed??)
**Pennsylvania? October 9, 2020: Biden +7.1 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +9.4....so how far is Kamala ahead in Pa? She is NOT,...Trump has a fractional edge over her.
** WIsconsin?? October 9, 2020: Biden +5.5 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +6.3...Where is Harris now? .5% lead.....Trump beat Hillary by .77% in 2016
**Georgia?? The RCP average has Trump UP about 1.5% over the past 8+ polls. It is NOT in play for "Toss Up" any longer.
**Arizona?? Yup, about the same margin as Georgia...Trump scoring noticeably over Harris. Trump won 9 of the last twelve polls.
**North Carolina?? October 9, 2020: Biden +1.8 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +2.6...so is Kamala up there? (NO)...Trump has won 11/13 polls there in the past 4 weeks, The margin is tight, but clearly out performing Biden & Clinton at this point in the race.

So bottom line? Some of the 'Toss Ups' actually should be shifting to "Leaning Red"
I generally dislike polls but,...with Tim Walz screaming about doing away with the electoral college, you KNOW he has also seen some insider polls that look grim for the Leftist faction.
Time for the Operation Chaos Leftists to plan their 3 AM count coup in key urban centers where there are no objective watchers...AND time for Republicans to set up cameras again to demonstrate the played out steal.
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I was thinking about this. I hope to hell the locals all have a plan to watch the hell out of all the counting venters.
 
Chopticon64

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Hessian said:
**Kamala is polling below Biden in several areas despite him hiding in the basement 80% of the campaign...

**Quinnipiac poll 10-7...has Trump up by 4%...in MICHIGAN!. That was not an outlier, apparently two other polls of LVs showed 2-4% LEAD by Trump.
(I wonder if Kamala will notice what Trump did in 2016 and Hillary completely missed??)
**Pennsylvania? October 9, 2020: Biden +7.1 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +9.4....so how far is Kamala ahead in Pa? She is NOT,...Trump has a fractional edge over her.
** WIsconsin?? October 9, 2020: Biden +5.5 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +6.3...Where is Harris now? .5% lead.....Trump beat Hillary by .77% in 2016
**Georgia?? The RCP average has Trump UP about 1.5% over the past 8+ polls. It is NOT in play for "Toss Up" any longer.
**Arizona?? Yup, about the same margin as Georgia...Trump scoring noticeably over Harris. Trump won 9 of the last twelve polls.
**North Carolina?? October 9, 2020: Biden +1.8 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +2.6...so is Kamala up there? (NO)...Trump has won 11/13 polls there in the past 4 weeks, The margin is tight, but clearly out performing Biden & Clinton at this point in the race.

So bottom line? Some of the 'Toss Ups' actually should be shifting to "Leaning Red"
I generally dislike polls but,...with Tim Walz screaming about doing away with the electoral college, you KNOW he has also seen some insider polls that look grim for the Leftist faction.
Time for the Operation Chaos Leftists to plan their 3 AM count coup in key urban centers where there are no objective watchers...AND time for Republicans to set up cameras again to demonstrate the played out steal.
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2016 was 9 years ago, he’s a shell of who he was. He should have moved aside, but he didn’t, he’s not “fresh and new” he’s tired and old.

 
Bann

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Bare-ya-cuda

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Chopticon64 said:
2016 was 9 years ago, he’s a shell of who he was. He should have moved aside, but he didn’t, he’s not “fresh and new” he’s tired and old.

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Love how the camera stops panning once it gets to sections that are full. Probably taken early before the rally.
 
Hessian

Hessian

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Well Chopticon Senior Citizen, Regarding the Biden-Harris yard sign...in front of your door, have you removed it?....You were all ready to vote again for that 1991 calendar dishrag despite his obvious dementia...and you consider Trump 'Tired & Old?'...how wonderfully hypocritical.
 
Chopticon64

Chopticon64

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Whatever folks, my biggest folly is posting here.

She will win handily and Trump will be in court trials for the last of his days.

Keep foaming at the mouth calling anyone you disagree with a pedophile, people will take you very seriously 🙄
 
Chopticon64

Chopticon64

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Hessian said:
Well Chopticon Senior Citizen, Regarding the Biden-Harris yard sign...in front of your door, have you removed it?....You were all ready to vote again for that 1991 calendar dishrag despite his obvious dementia...and you consider Trump 'Tired & Old?'...how wonderfully hypocritical.
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You know, nearly 80 year old Trump could have stepped aside too, you do know that right?

I get that you’re spitting with jealousy that Kamala is about to be the next president when basically Haley could have won it easily.

If you think an 80 year old will be a great president, vote for him.
 
PJay

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Chopticon64 said:
If you think an 80 year old will be a great president, vote for him.
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Plan to

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SamSpade

SamSpade

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This was inevitable. There was a surge of relief and excitement over the idea that someone other than Biden, who was a certain loser - was the standard bearer. That’s now wearing off.

It isn’t so much that people are finally figuring out she’s a zero who is in way over her head or her VP is a vacuous beta male. It’s more like they’re realizing she’s just at BEST, Biden 2.0.
 
SamSpade

SamSpade

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Hessian said:
**Kamala is polling below Biden in several areas despite him hiding in the basement 80% of the campaign...

**Quinnipiac poll 10-7...has Trump up by 4%...in MICHIGAN!. That was not an outlier, apparently two other polls of LVs showed 2-4% LEAD by Trump.
(I wonder if Kamala will notice what Trump did in 2016 and Hillary completely missed??)
**Pennsylvania? October 9, 2020: Biden +7.1 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +9.4....so how far is Kamala ahead in Pa? She is NOT,...Trump has a fractional edge over her.
** WIsconsin?? October 9, 2020: Biden +5.5 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +6.3...Where is Harris now? .5% lead.....Trump beat Hillary by .77% in 2016
**Georgia?? The RCP average has Trump UP about 1.5% over the past 8+ polls. It is NOT in play for "Toss Up" any longer.
**Arizona?? Yup, about the same margin as Georgia...Trump scoring noticeably over Harris. Trump won 9 of the last twelve polls.
**North Carolina?? October 9, 2020: Biden +1.8 | October 9, 2016: Clinton +2.6...so is Kamala up there? (NO)...Trump has won 11/13 polls there in the past 4 weeks, The margin is tight, but clearly out performing Biden & Clinton at this point in the race.

So bottom line? Some of the 'Toss Ups' actually should be shifting to "Leaning Red"
I generally dislike polls but,...with Tim Walz screaming about doing away with the electoral college, you KNOW he has also seen some insider polls that look grim for the Leftist faction.
Time for the Operation Chaos Leftists to plan their 3 AM count coup in key urban centers where there are no objective watchers...AND time for Republicans to set up cameras again to demonstrate the played out steal.
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Admittedly I’ve placed probably too much stock in the RCP average. It SEEMS like it should be fair - and it often IS - but there are literally HUNDREDS of polling firms - some clearly biased - some with poor methodologies - some actually bankrolled by a partisan faction.

The best measure of a polling firm is - its history. Over several cycles. Partly because in my mind, even the actual numbers that emerged probably wasn’t - “the truth”. The second measure is consistency. If they always tilt left or right, is it by a measurable, reliable amount? Rasmussen is reliably right - but it’s rarely far OFF. NYT/Siena is reliably left - but it’s usually close. When ANY poll shows huge swings from week to week, they need to do something other than polling. Public opinion NEVER shifts THAT much, even in lieu of obvious undisputed facts. Even if your favored candidate admits openly “yes it’s true, I diddle little girls, it’s my hobby “ you can be damned sure people will vote for them. (Heck, if it’s a Democrat, he’d be praised for “honesty”).

One thing I HAVE observed, and much more so with Trump than anyone. His share of the vote is ALWAYS underestimated. I still attribute this to the “shy voter” who plans to vote for him, but knows that admitting that publicly will earn him a sound thrashing if he’s lucky. If Trump is down a point, in reality he’s probably up two. His margin of “underestimating” has been about 3 percentage points. And if he’s UP, it’s probably a done deal. Remember that at this point in 2016 and 2020, he was down in every battleground state - and in 2016 he surprised EVERYONE with Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

STILL think the Democra cheat machine is too strong. If they can elect a mindless cadaver, a cackling empty headed fool is a breeze.
 
SamSpade

SamSpade

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FWIW - people don’t distrust the media because of Trump for the same reason Russians don’t trust Pravda (“Truth”). They don’t trust it because they already know they’re being lied to. It’s telling when the most reliable news sources for the United States cone from abroad.
 
GURPS

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I have heard a couple of pundants that Trump under performs in polls as polling firms generally OVER SAMPLE Democrats and Independents that are leaning left.
 
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