Polls start to raise some eyebrows...

Bann

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A number of *Democrat* pundits are saying the polls are bullshit and pollsters are putting their thumb on the scale for Kamala. I'm trying not to get too excited about Trump's current standing, I'm more thinking about my plan if the Democrats cheat out a win and how I'm going to protect my retirement.
Their internals are not good, and that's exactly why they're saying they're bullshit. They're already planning to extend this as long as they need to get as many votes as they need. That's why the Trump organization is trying to win it bigly.
 

StmarysCity79

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A number of *Democrat* pundits are saying the polls are bullshit and pollsters are putting their thumb on the scale for Kamala. I'm trying not to get too excited about Trump's current standing, I'm more thinking about my plan if the Democrats cheat out a win and how I'm going to protect my retirement.


ME ME ME ME ME.

Classic Republican.

How come you still haven't proven any cheating nor has Trump nor Kari lake?

How come none of the Down ballot Republicans who won in 2020 refused to take their posts claiming the same "fraud" that made Trump lose but let them win?
 

StmarysCity79

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Honestly this is the only poll that matters so far.

This woman is known as the gold standard.

If Selzer says Iowa is close Trump is screwed nationally

Trump no longer leads in a state he carried twice, according to new Iowa Poll​


Vice President Kamala Harris holds 47% to former President Donald Trump’s 44% among likely voters in the final Iowa Poll before Election Day from the Des Moines Register and Mediacom. That margin falls within the poll’s 3.4 point margin of sampling error and suggests no clear leader in the state, which has widely been rated as solidly in the GOP column during this year’s campaign.

The findings suggest a shift toward Harris compared with the previous Iowa Poll, in September, which found a narrow edge for Trump. In that poll, 47% of likely voters backed Trump to 43% for Harris.

 

SamSpade

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A number of *Democrat* pundits are saying the polls are bullshit and pollsters are putting their thumb on the scale for Kamala.
Nate Silver says not to place too much stock in late polls - or polls the NEVER deviate from past efforts.

Late polling by some firms tend to lie a little, because they don't want to look bad - so they adjust their output based on what they believe the consensus is. Kind of like, one sheep goes over a cliff, they all do. A week out, you can bet most of them are lying.

But there's also the ones that NEVER have outliers in their polling. He said you should TRUST the ones that have them more often, because that's the nature of sampling. When you're always spot on and rarely deviate - you're cooking the numbers. Numbers SHOULD deviate. That's why you have sampling error. It happens. Case in point, the Des Moines Register Iowa poll. There's rarely a state more reliably conservative than Iowa, yet in their OWN SURVEY, it went from Trump up by I think three to Harris up by 10. That's statistically impossible. Just look at the consensus of Iowa polling.

I still have nervous knots about the whole election, just as I did in 2016 - believing HIllary would win anyway, but being - shocked - that Trump won. BUT THEY ARE ALREADY finding shenanigans all over the place - Georgia precincts collecting late ballots - spoiled ballots in Arizona - reams of faked ballots that have been CAUGHT. Dammit I am getting tired of an election system that is SO VERY EASILY duped.
 

phreddyp

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Honestly this is the only poll that matters so far.

This woman is known as the gold standard.

If Selzer says Iowa is close Trump is screwed nationally

Trump no longer leads in a state he carried twice, according to new Iowa Poll​


Vice President Kamala Harris holds 47% to former President Donald Trump’s 44% among likely voters in the final Iowa Poll before Election Day from the Des Moines Register and Mediacom. That margin falls within the poll’s 3.4 point margin of sampling error and suggests no clear leader in the state, which has widely been rated as solidly in the GOP column during this year’s campaign.

The findings suggest a shift toward Harris compared with the previous Iowa Poll, in September, which found a narrow edge for Trump. In that poll, 47% of likely voters backed Trump to 43% for Harris.

Get your last digs in while you can it's gonna be a long 4 years for you.
 

StmarysCity79

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Get your last digs in while you can it's gonna be a long 4 years for you.


Let's revisit this next week.

First ask yourself what has Trump done differently this time to 2020?

How did he gain supporters?

People were tepid on Biden but voted for him for stability after the chaos of Trump.

Now people still see Trump as chaotic but are enthusiastic about Kamala.

Plus Trump caused J6th, has been convicted of sexual assault and 43 felonies and has two more trials looming.

How does that lead to a win in 2024 if he couldn't win in 2020?
 

phreddyp

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Let's revisit this next week.

First ask yourself what has Trump done differently this time to 2020?

How did he gain supporters?

People were tepid on Biden but voted for him for stability after the chaos of Trump.

Now people still see Trump as chaotic but are enthusiastic about Kamala.

Plus Trump caused J6th, has been convicted of sexual assault and 43 felonies and has two more trials looming.

How does that lead to a win in 2024 if he couldn't win in 2020?
All very valid points in YOUR MIND, not so much to folks without TDS. Carry on, like I said seems to me it's gonna be a Loooong 4 years for you my dear. The very last person to be thrilled to see Kamala was Willy Brown!
 

Ramp Guy

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All very valid points in YOUR MIND, not so much to folks without TDS. Carry on, like I said seems to me it's gonna be a Loooong 4 years for you my dear. The very last person to be thrilled to see Kamala was Willy Brown!
Yep... Willy was having one of those shared Chris Matthews' moments
 

StmarysCity79

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All very valid points in YOUR MIND, not so much to folks without TDS. Carry on, like I said seems to me it's gonna be a Loooong 4 years for you my dear. The very last person to be thrilled to see Kamala was Willy Brown!


You didn't answer any of my questions.

How did sleeping with a low level politician 20 years ago propel her to the White House if your Willy Brown story is true?
 

OccamsRazor

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Let's revisit this next week.

First ask yourself what has Trump done differently this time to 2020?

How did he gain supporters?

People were tepid on Biden but voted for him for stability after the chaos of Trump.

Now people still see Trump as chaotic but are enthusiastic about Kamala.

Plus Trump caused J6th, has been convicted of sexual assault and 43 felonies and has two more trials looming.

How does that lead to a win in 2024 if he couldn't win in 2020?
Fairly simple... buyer's remorse.
People voted for Biden because they believed a narrative that was untrue. They have lived through the last 4 years with Biden and don't want another 4 years of Biden-esque leadership.
 

Ramp Guy

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She checked all the boxes, where the f**k have you been?
Don't you just love the "low level" politician spin and also the 20 years spin.

30 years is the correct number, one has to wonder how Willie would feels as a black Mayor of San Francisco being dismissed as "low Level"

Someone on this board starting to sound like a racist
 
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StmarysCity79

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Don't you just love the "low level" politician spin and also the 20 years spin.

30 years is the correct number, one has to wonder how Willie would feel as a black Mayor of San Francisco being dismissed as "low Level"

Someone on this board starting to sound like a racist


If you were Willie Brown and had that power wouldn't you aim for the White House yourself not trade it away for a blowjob?

Think for one second and you will realize the lies you've been fed don't even make any sense.
 

Ramp Guy

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If you were Willie Brown and had that power wouldn't you aim for the White House yourself not trade it away for a blowjob?

Think for one second and you will realize the lies you've been fed don't even make any sense.
You should go ask Willie if he traded a blow job for a trip to the White House. He should know the answer.

Also, while you're there, tell him he is just a low level black politician in an unimportant position as Mayor of San Francisco. See if he agrees with you.
 

SamSpade

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Fairly simple... buyer's remorse.
People voted for Biden because they believed a narrative that was untrue. They have lived through the last 4 years with Biden and don't want another 4 years of Biden-esque leadership.
I think people are stupid enough to fall for it twice. After a two week tear about how vile and Nazi-like Trump supporters are - she's tacked to the "let's all be unifiied and end the division!" stuff. Something that she's NEVER been for.
 

LtownTaxpayer

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You know, nearly 80 year old Trump could have stepped aside too, you do know that right?

I get that you’re spitting with jealousy that Kamala is about to be the next president when basically Haley could have won it easily.

If you think an 80 year old will be a great president, vote for him.
Joe Biden didn't step aside. He got steam rolled by Nancy P and Barack O with able assists by the Hollywood ID-10Ts.
 

vraiblonde

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one has to wonder how Willie would feel as a black Mayor of San Francisco being dismissed as "low Level"

He wasn't *just* Mayor of SF, he was a major player statewide and extremely powerful. He mentored Gavin Newsom as well, and continued to be a king maker after he retired from political office. He appointed his girlfriend Kamala Harris to various high profile commissions where she could meet the right people, and that propelled her up the ladder starting with him walking her into her DA position.

It's similar to calling Nancy Pelosi a "low level" politician because she's just a House member repping SF. The reality is much much more.
 
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