Preaching Women

~mellabella~

New Member
:coffee: Since you say you are getting into the family Court system with the perspective that some parents are "deadbeats" then are world is not improved by your action.

Plus, slander does not have to be a lie to be slander.

Slander can be done by misrepresentation, and by twisting the truth, or leaving info out, or telling truthful things that are not to be told, and other ways.
:duel:

Some parents ARE deadbeats, even you can't deny that. But I go in with the mindset of helping those who are being persecuted wrongly for being deadbeat when they, in fact, are not.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Ferrous Canus, and Stupidus Giganticus.

Some parents ARE deadbeats, even you can't deny that.
:coffee: No, I do not believe there are any deadbeat parents anywhere.

That is an unjust slander that our gov has improperly put onto parents.

The broken families have been violated and need help and repair but not degradations.

The famous old saying applies here: If you look for the wrong in people expecting to find it - then you surely will.

Our Courts need to protect and defend the family units and not blame and degrade the separated parents as is being done now.
~mellabella~ said:
But I go in with the mindset of helping those who are being persecuted wrongly for being deadbeat when they, in fact, are not.
:diva: By looking for "deadbeats" then you will find them.

I am saying to look for the problem and the solutions and do not degrade any parent.
:duel:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
By looking for "deadbeats" then you will find them.
She did, she's talking with you. How prophetic.
I am saying to look for the problem and the solutions and do not degrade any parent.
Again, she found the problem; parents like you. And the solution she found as well - provide the support.

You're like a child support genius! :roflmao:
 

~mellabella~

New Member
:coffee: No, I do not believe there are any deadbeat parents anywhere.

That is an unjust slander that our gov has improperly put onto parents.

The broken families have been violated and need help and repair but not degradations.

The famous old saying applies here: If you look for the wrong in people expecting to find it - then you surely will.

Our Courts need to protect and defend the family units and not blame and degrade the separated parents as is being done now.:diva: By looking for "deadbeats" then you will find them.

I am saying to look for the problem and the solutions and do not degrade any parent.
:duel:


OK, let me try to explain this ONE more time. I don't go in looking for people to blame and accuse, but to help those being accused. There ARE bad parents out there. Then there are those who are unjustly called so, usually with money as a hidden motivator. But I don't call every parent I see a deadbeat, or else I'd be calling myself one. These families are torn apart more often by their own doing. I'll try to repair and fix as much as possible, but in some cases the parents simply don't care to try.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Ferrous Canus, and Stupidus Giganticus.

OK, let me try to explain this ONE more time. I don't go in looking for people to blame and accuse, but to help those being accused. There ARE bad parents out there. Then there are those who are unjustly called so, usually with money as a hidden motivator. But I don't call every parent I see a deadbeat, or else I'd be calling myself one. These families are torn apart more often by their own doing. I'll try to repair and fix as much as possible, but in some cases the parents simply don't care to try.
:coffee: I did know what you meant the first time that "some parents are deadbeats" and your only going to help stick it to "those parents" and I said there are no deadbeat parents and it is only an unjust slander against "those parents".

And you will find as I found and that woman told about on that video link - that ALL the separated parents are mistreated as "deadbeats" and there are no exceptions in the Court enforcement system.

The other parents that are forced to submit to the inhuman custody laws and pay up the unjust child support demands simply see the mistreatment of "those other parents" and then procede under threat and intimidation.

It is only necessary to send one victim to the gallows for everyone else to get the message, and that is true for any forced injustice as done in the Courts to the parents.

I submit that it is the parents that "do care" which are those that do not try to comply with the unjust situation, and those that care the most will defy the unjust laws.

From your post I gather that you are going to work for the Devil and you intend to do the Devil's work well.
:duel:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
:coffee: I did know what you meant the first time that "some parents are deadbeats" and your only going to help stick it to "those parents" and I said there are no deadbeat parents and it is only an unjust slander against "those parents".

And you will find as I found and that woman told about on that video link - that ALL the separated parents are mistreated as "deadbeats" and there are no exceptions in the Court enforcement system.

The other parents that are forced to submit to the inhuman custody laws and pay up the unjust child support demands simply see the mistreatment of "those other parents" and then procede under threat and intimidation.

It is only necessary to send one victim to the gallows for everyone else to get the message, and that is true for any forced injustice as done in the Courts to the parents.

I submit that it is the parents that "do care" which are those that do not try to comply with the unjust situation, and those that care the most will defy the unjust laws.

From your post I gather that you are going to work for the Devil and you intend to do the Devil's work well.
:duel:
What are the specific complaints that woman in your link had? Wasn't it that the system actually allotted money based upon need, and rewarded systems that worked? Wasn't that her complaint?
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Ferrous Canus, and Stupidus Giganticus.

What are the specific complaints that woman in your link had? Wasn't it that the system actually allotted money based upon need, and rewarded systems that worked? Wasn't that her complaint?
:popcorn: One could try watching the video for one-self,

then find out the answers for one-self,

that is the way for learning and self education to proceed. :howdy:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
:popcorn: One could try watching the video for one-self,

then find out the answers for one-self,

that is the way for learning and self education to proceed. :howdy:
I did watch it, and I asked you a bunch of questions that you never answered, remember?

I finally listened to this poorly made link.

What did she say that was so wrong from the point of view of Child Support Enforcement?

She said that the Child Support Enforcement agency does not represent the family, but is a friend of the court. That's good - that ensures the agents remember they're not to side with one part of the argument or the other.

She said that the agents were rated on how much money they brought in. What? Someone rated on how well they enforce the rules they're being paid to enforce?! What a shocker there :sarcasm:

She said that the courts were allotted more money based on the number of cases they had. Hmmm, money based on need - too bad more of government doesn't work this way.

She claimed lies and abuses, but never said what lies, what abuses she was even claiming, just that there were lies and abuses.

She was non-credible in her complaints, but made a lot of sense with her fact based statements. I think she just didn't understand the point of her job. She was a foot soldier, jaded by her war, that complained of those above her, without understanding her own accusations or the big picture of what she accomplished.

Are you able to answer them now?
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Ferrous Canus, and Stupidus Giganticus.

Back to the topic of women preaching, I think it is a beautiful thing. You will hear things in a new perspective, as men and women tend to think differently.
:yahoo: I like the woman preacher Joyce Myer, link HERE.

I say she is a fine teacher and preacher for men and for women.

Her favorite book of mine is titled; "Beauty for Ashes" and it is based on her own life from childhood to adult.
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~mellabella~

New Member
:yahoo: I like the woman preacher Joyce Myer, link HERE.

I say she is a fine teacher and preacher for men and for women.

Her favorite book of mine is titled; "Beauty for Ashes" and it is based on her own life from childhood to adult.
:duel:

I've gone to several of her conferences. I've even played the praise and worship music for her ceremony when she came to Va. I love to hear her speak. Wonderful insight she gives.
 

~mellabella~

New Member
From your post I gather that you are going to work for the Devil and you intend to do the Devil's work well.
:duel:

LMAO! I was told this on another post recently...devil's advocate. I see what you're saying JPC, I just don't want to be lumped together with the rest of the judicial system that acts on little to no proof. THAT is why I am defensive about it.:coffee:
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Ferrous Canus, and Stupidus Giganticus.

LMAO! I was told this on another post recently...devil's advocate. I see what you're saying JPC, I just don't want to be lumped together with the rest of the judicial system that acts on little to no proof. THAT is why I am defensive about it.:coffee:
:buddies: Then do not go in there as some vulture to the carcass and remember the woman "Rhodes" on the video that cared more about the families then the demands of the unjust laws.

Jesus wore a crown of thorns in defiance of the laws of His day, so do go to the Court and give us a reason to be proud.
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This_person

Well-Known Member
..remember the woman "Rhodes" on the video that cared more about the families then the demands of the unjust laws.
You keep quoting that video - so let's talk about it. Here are some discussion points:
What did she say that was so wrong from the point of view of Child Support Enforcement?

She said that the Child Support Enforcement agency does not represent the family, but is a friend of the court. That's good - that ensures the agents remember they're not to side with one part of the argument or the other.

She said that the agents were rated on how much money they brought in. What? Someone rated on how well they enforce the rules they're being paid to enforce?! What a shocker there :sarcasm:

She said that the courts were allotted more money based on the number of cases they had. Hmmm, money based on need - too bad more of government doesn't work this way.

She claimed lies and abuses, but never said what lies, what abuses she was even claiming, just that there were lies and abuses.

She was non-credible in her complaints, but made a lot of sense with her fact based statements. I think she just didn't understand the point of her job. She was a foot soldier, jaded by her war, that complained of those above her, without understanding her own accusations or the big picture of what she accomplished.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Ferrous Canus, and Stupidus Giganticus.

You keep quoting that video - so let's talk about it. Here are some discussion points:
:whistle: See
~mellabella~,

Above is the kind of bigoted mentality that we have to deal with.

He WANTS the separated parents to be degraded, and his kind care nothing about justice or human rights.
:duel:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
See ~mellabella~,

Above is the kind of bigoted mentality that we have to deal with.

He WANTS the separated parents to be degraded, and his kind care nothing about justice or human rights.
This is a discussion of my points? It appears to be nothing more than an unfounded personal attack with no mention of the message. Are you afraid to debate the message because your points are so weak?

Try again!
 

~mellabella~

New Member
Social workers, child support enforcement agencies, ect. are SUPPOSED to be working on behalf of the child caught in the middle. Not for either parent, but in the BEST INTEREST of the child.
 

Plan B

New Member
Christ said Give unto Ceasar..., sent Peter to catch the fish with their taxes in it's mouth, and Paul thru the HS told us to obey laws and that rulers were appointed from above.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Social workers, child support enforcement agencies, ect. are SUPPOSED to be working on behalf of the child caught in the middle. Not for either parent, but in the BEST INTEREST of the child.
That was my first point, and her first complaint. On the video, she claims she should be working on behalf of the custodial parent. I strongly disagree with her on that point, and agree with what you are saying here. A "friend of the court" is someone who's looking out for the best interest of the person in the weakest position - the child.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Ferrous Canus, and Stupidus Giganticus.

Christ said Give unto Ceasar..., sent Peter to catch the fish with their taxes in it's mouth, and Paul thru the HS told us to obey laws and that rulers were appointed from above.
:whistle: Jesus did not say to obey Caesar in doing sinful wrong to people.

Peter and other apostles clarified it by saying we must obey God rather then men, link HERE.

The Romans put Christians in the lion's den to eat alive, so do you say those Christians were obeying Caesar? or were they sinning?

The present custody and child support laws hurt families, so our first duty is in doing right by helping the families in their need, and not in serving our modern day Caesar that breaks up families and hurt people.
:duel:
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Ferrous Canus, and Stupidus Giganticus.

Social workers, child support enforcement agencies, ect. are SUPPOSED to be working on behalf of the child caught in the middle. Not for either parent, but in the BEST INTEREST of the child.
:whistle: That is an absurdity that is being forced onto our society.

To help any child we must help the child's parent(s) and then the parents will take care of their own children.

Claiming to help a child by harming their parents is what goes on now.

The law does not represent the children - that is the parents place, so the Court is violating the parent's authority and breaking up the family unit.

It is like having a hungry family and then feeding the children and give nothing to the parents and then saying look how self righteous we are because we help children.

The need is to feed the parents and then the parents will feed their own children accordingly.

Anything that attacks or harms either parent is harming the child.

Having laws that are only representing the "interest of the child" is shutting out the parents and violating the family unit.

If we want to help the child then we must help the family, but now we have laws that claim to help the child by dividing the family unit, and the family unit is the building blocks of every society and thus the misguided laws are hurting everyone and the so-called help is vain.
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