Proof you say !

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Homesick said:
STOP IT! You are coming off as sounding offended. Why 2A even bothers to post in this forum is beyond me.Though, I truly know why..have to admire him and his being able to not totally lose it. All people want to do is attack him...why? He's quoting scripture!!!. He is not sending you to Hell. I have seen it time and again when believers tell you only God knows you still want to attack the messenger. Get a grip, or use that ignore button that admin. has blessed you with!
Wonderful words, and yet - is it possible you're missing these other folks' message?

I have a feeing there are a lot of people viewing this Religious forum who are "searching", or looking to join the Path to The Christ. (that's my phraseology)

Sorry to burst the bubble, but many people in our lifetime are exploring this possibility; that there is in fact a diety, a God, a Savior, who has control of our lives.

It's a bit strange to them, but through living their everyday lives, maybe they've been getting the feeling that there's something more out there.

So?? So, they are curious. They're looking for answers. They are, and have been, viewing these threads and posts, trying to decide if what's being said here, postulated here - can they integrate that into their belief system?

Whoa! - they say. Can I do this? Can I get comfortable with this?

Let's educate them, if that's possible, and let them come to their own decision. We can't stuff it down their throats and expect them to agree in every instance. Believe this or else!!

Like I just told somebody else: There's a thing called Free Will; ie., the right to choose. Your way, or His Way.

Let's use some tact here. Thanks
 

Railroad

Routinely Derailed
Penn said:
Wonderful words, and yet - is it possible you're missing these other folks' message?

I have a feeing there are a lot of people viewing this Religious forum who are "searching", or looking to join the Path to The Christ. (that's my phraseology)

Sorry to burst the bubble, but many people in our lifetime are exploring this possibility; that there is in fact a diety, a God, a Savior, who has control of our lives.

It's a bit strange to them, but through living their everyday lives, maybe they've been getting the feeling that there's something more out there.

So?? So, they are curious. They're looking for answers. They are, and have been, viewing these threads and posts, trying to decide if what's being said here, postulated here - can they integrate that into their belief system?

Whoa! - they say. Can I do this? Can I get comfortable with this?

Let's educate them, if that's possible, and let them come to their own decision. We can't stuff it down their throats and expect them to agree in every instance. Believe this or else!!

Like I just told somebody else: There's a thing called Free Will; ie., the right to choose. Your way, or His Way.

Let's use some tact here. Thanks
Very admirable, Penn. Unfortunately most of the arguments in here appear to be for the entertainment of a few folks - the same few folks all the time. The legitimate searchers are few and far between and we must still post for their sakes, however.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Tonio said:
Did I condemn anyone to hell? I don't see it; I have repeatedly said it is not in my power to condem anyone to hell. Do I believe that those that have heard of Jesus and forgiveness through Him and have chosen another path are on the road to hell? Yes. That includes Hindus, Muslims, and any others that have heard of salvation through Jesus and rejected. I believe the Bible. That is what the Bible says. If those that don't believe the Bible or only want to believe the parts they want to believe or water the message down, choose to not believe, believe what they will believe, or water the Word down to tickle the ears of others, then so be it. I am being true the the great commission and the charge to Christians in 2 Timothy 4:1-2.

Those that choose to believe only the scripture they choose are just fulfilling prophesy of the Bible in 2 Timothy 4:3-4.

2 Timothy 4:1-4

<sup id="en-NASB-29872">1</sup>I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: <sup id="en-NASB-29873">2</sup>preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.

<sup id="en-NASB-29874">3</sup>For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,

<sup id="en-NASB-29875">4</sup>and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Homesick said:
I understand people wanting limp fisted. Look our country today. Look where being limp fisted is taking us.

I don't understand what "limp fisted" has to do with claiming that the tsunami victims got what they deserved for rejecting Christ. That sounded incredibly hateful and cruel to me. The only thing that could be crueler is Rosie O'Donnell's boneheaded claim that cancer is punishment for lying: http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/06/rosie.magazine.suit.ap/ (Of course, boneheadedness is nothing new for Rosie.)
 

gumbo

FIGHT CLUB !
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I thought you said you knew the Bible? Maybe I misunderstood. The difference it makes is that it is the prescribe way God has told humans to get into His kingdom. According to the Bible, all have sinned, so the point is moot. Also according to the Bible, those who have never heard are judged according to their actions. Of course you have heard, so this does not apply to you.
Testing ! I do that ! You don't know how many times I have had to point that out to different leaders of churches that I have attended.
Actually according to the Catholic Almanac just a little over a billion world wide, so it is not billions.
Perhaps I should have wrote it this way M.A.S.S. Since the M stands for mothers it's actually more than billions..Sorry I couldn't resist the Catholic pun :angel:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
gumbo said:
Perhaps I should have wrote it this way M.A.S.S. Since the M stands for mothers it's actually more than billions..Sorry I couldn't resist the Catholic pun :angel:
Since there is no Mothers Against Stupid Stuff or other trailing S word, I would say the official membership is zero.
 

slotted

New Member
2ndAmendment said:
What about the human footprints found inside the footprints of T-Rex? That indicates that man and T-Rex were contemporaries. Where did the stories of man slaying dragons come from? Killing dinosaurs? As for the geological record, ever read of a great flood covering all the earth? That would completely rearrage the biological distribution.

Acts 2:19 is about the Last Days, not creation.

I believe the Bible. I don't try to justify it or conform it to my limited understanding of God and His creation.


Who would have thought the 2A was a Kent Hovind sock puppet. Better find some better "scholars" to learn from 2A. Check Hovind's credentials.
 
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