Proudly Gay and Ordained?

[dems4me]

I have a question Kim. You are nice in person. Why do you become so obnoxious on the forums? And why do you come into the Religion Forum obviously not to add anything but just to torment and stir the pot?

I thought she was just sticking up for me because you were calling me a wolf :shrug:

 

[K_Jo]

I have a question Kim. You are nice in person. Why do you become so obnoxious on the forums? And why do you come into the Religion Forum obviously not to add anything but just to torment and stir the pot?

Why do you feel tormented? I think she brought some much needed levity.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I won't feel anything; I'll be dead.

Non sequitur.

 

[K_Jo]

Then you don't believe God's word and there is no further discussion with you. Not my job to convince you.

You're right about that. And it would never happen anyway, I don't care how many bible verses you cite. But it seems those who have been 'saved' often feel it is their job to make everyone think like they do. I have a sister-in-law who thinks my husband and I are going to hell because we don't believe every word of the bible. I'm very happy with the person I am, I'm not going to hell, and if I die tomorrow I'll die feeling good that I didn't discriminate against gay people or anyone else who deserves the same rites as the rest of us.

 

[K_Jo]

Non sequitur.

Farside!

 

[2ndAmendment]

You're right about that. And it would never happen anyway, I don't care how many bible verses you cite. But it seems those who have been 'saved' often feel it is their job to make everyone think like they do. I have a sister-in-law who thinks my husband and I are going to hell because we don't believe every word of the bible. I'm very happy with the person I am, I'm not going to hell, and if I die tomorrow I'll die feeling good that I didn't discriminate against gay people or anyone else who deserves the same rites as the rest of us.

Glad you are happy with yourself. Is God? I don't know. You may be right about not going to hell. You may not. If you don't believe the Bible, how can you know? It is only God's word that sets the absolutes. Without those, all may judge for themselves what is right. For a serial killer, right may be to kill you.

Would those be last rites or do you mean rights?

Choose wisely.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Farside!

Non sequitur.

 

[dems4me]

Non sequitur.

wolf

 

[K_Jo]

Glad you are happy with yourself. Is God? I don't know. You may be right about not going to hell. You may not. If you don't believe the Bible, how can you know? It is only God's word that sets the absolutes. Without those, all may judge for themselves what is right. For a serial killer, right may be to kill you.

Would those be last rites or do you mean rights?

Choose wisely.

I meant rights.

"Don't act gay" is not one of the Ten Commandments. "Don't be a serial killer" is.

 

[dems4me]

I meant rights.

"Don't act gay" is not one of the Ten Commandments. "Don't be a serial killer" is.

I don't think they act gay, I think they are born that way. :shrug: But I do agree with ya on the 10 commandments.

 

[K_Jo]

I don't think they act gay, I think they are born that way. :shrug: But I do agree with ya on the 10 commandments.

I think gay people are born gay, too. Remember earlier in the thread when I was told that meant they were deformed or something? Anyway, I believe 2A said (or maybe RailRoad) that actually being gay isn't the sin, it's the "act" that's the sin. So if you're a gay man, but you don't have sex with another man, you're good to go. And I think that's crap.

 

[dems4me]

I think gay people are born gay, too. Remember earlier in the thread when I was told that meant they were deformed or something? Anyway, I believe 2A said (or maybe RailRoad) that actually being gay isn't the sin, it's the "act" that's the sin. So if you're a gay man, but you don't have sex with another man, you're good to go. And I think that's crap.

effeminate :shrug:

 

[crabcake]

effeminate :shrug:

leave smalltown out of this

 

[T.Rally]

A person is not born gay! Homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait. It is not 'normal. On the contrary, it deviates (note the term-as in a sexual deviate) from the norm. Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule.

Quit believing the myths the pro gay establishment wants you to believe.

The purpose of sex is to reproduce, the purpose of the pleasure involved is to bond, the purpose of the bond is to create a mutual co-existance between the man and woman so that their children are given good nurturing- nurturing required by both parents of both genders.

Homosexual sex does not equal reproduction. Homosexual bonds do not create a mutual co-existance as each gender has its inherent duties.

Is it really that hard to figure out?

 

[K_Jo]

A person is not born gay! Homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait. It is not 'normal. On the contrary, it deviates (note the term-as in a sexual deviate) from the norm. Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule.

Quit believing the myths the pro gay establishment wants you to believe.

The purpose of sex is to reproduce, the purpose of the pleasure involved is to bond, the purpose of the bond is to create a mutual co-existance between the man and woman so that their children are given good nurturing- nurturing required by both parents of both genders.

Homosexual sex does not equal reproduction. Homosexual bonds do not create a mutual co-existance as each gender has its inherent duties.

Is it really that hard to figure out?

I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same way if YOU were gay.

 

[dems4me]

A person is not born gay! Homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait. It is not 'normal. On the contrary, it deviates (note the term-as in a sexual deviate) from the norm. Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule.

Quit believing the myths the pro gay establishment wants you to believe.

The purpose of sex is to reproduce, the purpose of the pleasure involved is to bond, the purpose of the bond is to create a mutual co-existance between the man and woman so that their children are given good nurturing- nurturing required by both parents of both genders.

Homosexual sex does not equal reproduction. Homosexual bonds do not create a mutual co-existance as each gender has its inherent duties.

Is it really that hard to figure out?

Has nothing to do with progay establishment...I know gay people... I really think its a chromosone thing or something... they were definately born gay and they way they act is definately not an act... AND nothing is wrong with the parents of a few of my friends either that made them gay... its this kind of BS misunderstandings that perpetuates the bs revolving around gay people.... and creates hostility, close-mindedness and even hatred. I do have a question for you... what if you had kids and they were gay... what would you do:shrug: afterall, according to you, it was based on the parenting skills :shrug: Also, do you really believe that people choose to be outcasts of society and ridiculed and the victims of hate crimes?

 

[K_Jo]

Whoa there, I have been to DuPont Circle and have seen some flamers that I KNOW do not have a choice. They have a genetic make-up that is mixed up.
Since I can't have children, does that mean I can't have sex?

I hear ya! It's just such a silly argument. You hear all the time when people come out, "I knew since I was 5 years old" or 8 years old or 12. A 5-year-old kid doesn't CHOOSE to be gay. Why would anyone, with the way they're treated?

 

[dems4me]

I hear ya! It's just such a silly argument. You hear all the time when people come out, "I knew since I was 5 years old" or 8 years old or 12. A 5-year-old kid doesn't CHOOSE to be gay. Why would anyone, with the way they're treated?

So people can rationalize and justify their hatred towards them... they can't accept the fact they are born that way because it would make them look cruel and close minded

 

[T.Rally]

So people can rationalize and justify their hatred towards them... they can't accept the fact they are born that way because it would make them look cruel and close minded

Gee, how can anyone argue that? No matter what I were to say, you will claim the moral high ground and I will remain close minded and cruel.

Truth is there is no evidence that shows that homosexuality is simply genetic. And none of the research claims there is. Only the press and certain researchers do, when speaking in sound bites to the public.

 

[K_Jo]

Gee, how can anyone argue that? No matter what I were to say, you will claim the moral high ground and I will remain close minded and cruel.

Truth is there is no evidence that shows that homosexuality is simply genetic. And none of the research claims there is. Only the press and certain researchers do, when speaking in sound bites to the public.

Wouldn't researchers get their info from...uhh...RESEARCH???