Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
Railroad, That's one of the more intellegent things I've heard here and respect you for that. Too many people like to throw stones first.Railroad said:
Proudly Gay and Ordained?
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Railroad
Routinely Derailed
<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY id=collapseobj_usercp_reputation><TR><TD class=alt2>http://forums.somd.com/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif</TD><TD class=alt1Active id=p905355 width="50%">Proudly Gay and Ordained?</TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap>04-17-2005 10:05 AM</TD><TD class=alt1 width="50%">nobody's rules are timeless.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>You'll find out for certain about that someday, I'm sure.
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Railroad
Routinely Derailed
Because God created each of us, and He abhors homosexuality, so I 'spect He didn't wire anybody that way. Our weaknesses are often the result of tendencies we're born with (temper, alcoholism, etc.). That doesn't make it okay to yield to them. My weakness is alcohol - I'm wired that way. I can choose not to drink, though.Nickel said:
Don't kiss me - I'm not finished sparring. 
Railroad
Routinely Derailed
Please understand, I don't hate gay people. They've made their choices, that's their prerogative. But when asked, I tell what I know, and what I know is based on what the Bible says, not what modern society would ask me to believe. What I post on this topic are my opinions as best I can express them, but the REAL opinion is God's, and all I know about that is what's in the Bible.
Nickel
curiouser and curiouser
I never said that you did. You assume that homosexuals are not born that way, however you go on to say that "our weaknesses are often the result of tendencies we're born with". From that I gather that you believe homosexuals are born with the predisposed attraction to members of their same sex, and what separates the sinners from the non-sinners is the acting out of those tendencies. I don't necessarily disagree, I just think it's ignorant to assume that homosexuality is a choice, when you do not know this is fact.Railroad said:
Railroad
Routinely Derailed
Assuming gays are wired that way (although I think not), and knowing from the Bible that homosexuality is a sin just as many other things are, then we can deduce (not assume) that homosexuality is a sin just like drinking to excess, adultery. etc. The challenge we face as Christians is to recognize these behaviors as counter to what God intends, and be strong enough to resist them (with God's help). So in that challenge there IS a choice, and the choice is to obey God's rules. Therefore one can say that there is a choice.Nickel said:
People need guidance as they make their choices in life, and unfortunately it's either unavailable or not heeded by everybody when they need it the most. Those who get and use the guidance God provides know what choices to make. I have known effeminate men (by mannerisms, build, and speech) that were either celibate or heterosexuals. They were Christians. I've also known masculine women (same set of parameters as for men) who were either celibate or heterosexuals. They also were Christians. I see in them the very noble quality of obeying God's word, regardless of their tendencies.
You didn't run me off or offend me. I just happen to have very strong opinions/beliefs that are exactly the opposite of yours and there's no sense in going back and forth about it. I'd much rather mess around in Chit Chat than get all riled up in a forum I know will be nothing but trouble. 
Railroad
Routinely Derailed
I'm with ya there!!!!!!!!!!K_Jo said:You didn't run me off or offend me. I just happen to have very strong opinions/beliefs that are exactly the opposite of yours and there's no sense in going back and forth about it. I'd much rather mess around in Chit Chat than get all riled up in a forum I know will be nothing but trouble.
