Proudly Gay and Ordained?

[K_Jo]

We did not evolve from the apes if you believe the Bible. As a Catholic Christian you do believe the Bible right?

No, I don't believe everything that's in the bible. I believe in evolution. That doesn't mean it wasn't God's idea, just that those seven days represented billions of years. Just because my beliefs don't match yours, doesn't make you right and me wrong.

 

[K_Jo]

Salvation is the first step in developing a relationship with Jesus the Christ. Without salvation, being saved, you have not even started the relationship with Christ or being a Christian.

Interesting theory.

 

[BuddyLee]

1. Why would God create homosexuals in the first place if they were to eventually end up in Hell?

2. Why are the most religious of people the greatest judge of people? Shouldn't this be a job for God and not themselves?

 

[2ndAmendment]

I was saying me!!! NOt you -- I was implying I spend too much time on here at work as it is... not YOU.

You belittle and berate gay people by condeming them to Hell. I'm saying it is NOT your place to do so, but Gods. You use your Bible as your final authority to state they are going to Hell, and I use my Bible as the final authority that has a Jesus in it - one that has died for our sins and about the Bible being full of Love. Whatever, we just go round and round on the issue. You were correct though, I was wrong in on one thing... I thought the religious forum was supposed to be a place for peace, understanding, compassion, tolerance, acceptance and love for one another - not hatred and damning people to hell and then denying how that is belittling someone. Whatever. I'm moving on to the next forum on here ... oddly enough titled "Recognizing a stroke" .

I judged no one. I repeated what the Bible says. I said a non repentant sinner, including homosexuals, will go to hell. Where did I condemn them to hell? That is not my job yet. I and other Christians will have that job someday since another word for Christian is saint, but not now.

1 Corinthians 6

<sup id="en-NASB-28469">1</sup>Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints? <sup id="en-NASB-28470">2</sup>Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts?

<sup id="en-NASB-28471">3</sup>Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?

 

[AC/DC]

1. Why would God create homosexuals in the first place if they were to eventually end up in Hell?

Queer bait............

 

[dems4me]

Where did I condemn them to hell? That is not my job yet. QUOTE]


2A - you are starting to scare me. Are you ok?

 

[2ndAmendment]

No, I don't believe everything that's in the bible. I believe in evolution. That doesn't mean it wasn't God's idea, just that those seven days represented billions of years. Just because my beliefs don't match yours, doesn't make you right and me wrong.

Yep. There we have another problem. People want to go to heaven, but the don't believe God's word.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Where did I condemn them to hell? That is not my job yet. QUOTE]


2A - you are starting to scare me. Are you ok?

I'm fine. You don't like the Bible? That's pretty bad for an avowed Christian.

 

[dems4me]

I'm fine. You don't like the Bible? That's pretty bad for an avowed Christian.

No, I just don't understand the part you are reading where you eventually become God... you said its not your place to damn homosexuals to hell "YET"..:shrug:

 

[K_Jo]

Yep. There we have another problem. People want to go to heaven, but the don't believe God's word.

1. We don't have a problem.

2. I'm not whining about getting into heaven. :shrug: I'll be just fine.

 

[2ndAmendment]

1. Why would God create homosexuals in the first place if they were to eventually end up in Hell?

2. Why are the most religious of people the greatest judge of people? Shouldn't this be a job for God and not themselves?

Actually the Bible says that God created both the righteous and the unrighteous. Ask God. According to scripture, many who we come in contact with on earth on look human but are not. They are demons or angles. Could it be that demons lure people into sin? They sure want company in hell.

 

[dems4me]

1. We don't have a problem.

2. I'm not whining about getting into heaven. :shrug: I'll be just fine.

Don't know... anytime you disagree with 2A on here. you are being damned to hell... :shrug: or at least not YET....



2A, I take stabs at you just the same as you take them at me. We are both Christian, just the same as KJO is too and Nomoney (nevermind, she's too broke ) I still love ya and every now and then I enjoy a discussion that does't reflect any of my opinions formed over the past 35 years. Where would the world be if we all thought alike? Its refreshing!

 

[dems4me]

Actually the Bible says that God created both the righteous and the unrighteous. Ask God. According to scripture, many who we come in contact with on earth on look human but are not. They are demons or angles. Could it be that demons lure people into sin? They sure want company in hell.

It also says demons are very well versed in scripture too :shrug:

 

[2ndAmendment]

No, I just don't understand the part you are reading where you eventually become God... you said its not your place to damn homosexuals to hell "YET"..:shrug:

Did you read the quote? Again, I guess not. I am not assuming God's role. The Bible says that the saints, Christians, will judge the world. You must have an aversion to reading scripture. There come those wolf suspicions again.

 

[BuddyLee]

It also says demons are very well versed in scripture too :shrug:

 

[2ndAmendment]

Don't know... anytime you disagree with 2A on here. you are being damned to hell... :shrug: or at least not YET....



2A, I take stabs at you just the same as you take them at me. We are both Christian, just the same as KJO is too and Nomoney (nevermind, she's too broke ) I still love ya and every now and then I enjoy a discussion that does't reflect any of my opinions formed over the past 35 years. Where would the world be if we all thought alike? Its refreshing!

I would wish that all would be Christians. Sadly, according to the Bible, most are not and will not be.

 

[dems4me]

Did you read the quote? Again, I guess not. I am not assuming God's role. The Bible says that the saints, Christians, will judge the world. You must have an aversion to reading scripture. There come those wolf suspicions again.

If you are referring to Revelations... no one understands that fully - ask any pastor or minister, etc... I don't believe that Christians will judge the earth, afterall they are not supposed to judge people, especially while up in Heaven.

 

[2ndAmendment]

It also says demons are very well versed in scripture too :shrug:

That is true. But demons won't be using scripture to try to bring others to Truth. They will distort it so that you will believe that it is OK to sin.

 

[dems4me]

I would wish that all would be Christians. Sadly, according to the Bible, most are not and will not be.

Then why do you try to push folks that are not Christian away and continually make it appear to be an elite hip club to belong to. Again, you are going about this with the wrong approach. I'm not trying to be funny or anything but when you read the Bible do you ever get an inordinate amount of Love message in there - or do you just focus on the condemnation in it? Do you believe that if you fall down the stairs, its God punishing you? Do you believe in God being a big mean kill-joy in life? Or do you see God as you would a father... you wrong a father as in here on earth but he has unconditional love for you. ?

 

[dems4me]

That is true. But demons won't be using scripture to try to bring others to Truth. They will distort it so that you will believe that it is OK to sin.

Yes - you are correct... there is no such thing as Jesus, Love and forgiveness - what Bible was I reading!! :whacksforhead:.