Question about Catholic Churches

2ndAmendment

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
libby said:
Oh, and in a Catholic Church, Communion, Lord's Supper, Eucharist, Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, are all the same thing. The priest was wrong. I'll try to find the Canon Law for you, after I go to Mass this evening.
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Well he was presiding over a non denominational service that was being held in a Catholic church if that makes a difference.

As to Catholic Canon Law, I'll take your word for it. I just know that the priest said it was OK to come take the sacraments as long as you believed in Jesus as Savior and Lord.
 
Dymphna

Dymphna

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2ndAmendment said:
Well he was presiding over a non denominational service that was being held in a Catholic church if that makes a difference.

As to Catholic Canon Law, I'll take your word for it. I just know that the priest said it was OK to come take the sacraments as long as you believed in Jesus as Savior and Lord.
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Yes, it makes a big difference. As much as I hate to get into a my-religion-is-better-than-yours-you-just-don't-understand-it conversation, which this is fast becoming...

A priest celebrating the "Holy Eucharist" is not allowed by Church law to purposely invited non-Catholics to participate. However, in a non-denominational service, he would've probably changed the service up ever so slightly, to keep it from being considered the real thing, by Catholic rules...however, he shouldn't have used the word "sacrament" to refer to it.
 
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libby

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Dymphna said:
Yes, it makes a big difference. As much as I hate to get into a my-religion-is-better-than-yours-you-just-don't-understand-it conversation, which this is fast becoming...

A priest celebrating the "Holy Eucharist" is not allowed by Church law to purposely invited non-Catholics to participate. However, in a non-denominational service, he would've probably changed the service up ever so slightly, to keep it from being considered the real thing, by Catholic rules...however, he shouldn't have used the word "sacrament" to refer to it.
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:yeahthat:
 
2ndAmendment

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
To me, the bread and wine representing the blood and body in the Lord's Supper are sacraments. And I don't care who is serving them in the name of Jesus as long as the Jesus they are celebrating is God come as man, Savior, and Lord.

I'm glad you are happy in your church. For me, there seem to be too many man imposed rules as there are, quite frankly, in many denominations. Heck, Catholic bashing is a religion in some churches. I think Jesus is very disappointed in most churches and those that call themselves Christians.
 
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libby

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2ndAmendment said:
To me, the bread and wine representing the blood and body in the Lord's Supper are sacraments. And I don't care who is serving them in the name of Jesus as long as the Jesus they are celebrating is God come as man, Savior, and Lord.

I'm glad you are happy in your church. For me, there seem to be too many man imposed rules as there are, quite frankly, in many denominations. Heck, Catholic bashing is a religion in some churches. I think Jesus is very disappointed in most churches and those that call themselves Christians.
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They aren't "rules" as most people define rules. They are more like "disciplines" that help us find our way.
 
Bavarian

Bavarian

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2ndAmendment said:
To me, the bread and wine representing the blood and body in the Lord's Supper are sacraments. And I don't care who is serving them in the name of Jesus as long as the Jesus they are celebrating is God come as man, Savior, and Lord.

I'm glad you are happy in your church. For me, there seem to be too many man imposed rules as there are, quite frankly, in many denominations. Heck, Catholic bashing is a religion in some churches. I think Jesus is very disappointed in most churches and those that call themselves Christians.
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Note bolded text. That is the difference between the Catholic Churches, both Latin and Eastern rite and protestants. To protestants, it is a representation, nothing more. Whereas, to Catholics IT IS the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ who is God. That is why non-Catholics can not receive a properly consecrated Eucharist.
 
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toppick08

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Bavarian said:
Note bolded text. That is the difference between the Catholic Churches, both Latin and Eastern rite and protestants. To protestants, it is a representation, nothing more. Whereas, to Catholics IT IS the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ who is God. That is why non-Catholics can not receive a properly consecrated Eucharist.
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This is why your going to Hell.
 
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libby

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toppick08 said:
This is why your going to Hell.
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What is the point of this response? Bavarian didn't damn Protestants, he explained why Catholic churches cannot invite everyone to participate, which the Protestant churches do.
I know there are some organizations that are run by Bible Christian Protestants that require a "statement of faith" before you can participate in said organization. Because I couldn't sign a statement saying the Bible is the only source of Truth, I am unable to be part of the group. I wish I could remember the groups I'm thinking of , but sports seems to ring a bell.
Anyway, as said so many times, if you don't agree with the Catholic Church, you have the freedom to never step foot in one.
 
2ndAmendment

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
toppick08 said:
This is why your going to Hell.
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I can't agree with this.

I don't believe that the bread turns into flesh and the wine into blood and the Catholics did not believe in transubstantiation at first. They do now. I think it is error, but I don't think it makes those Catholics that believe in Jesus as Savior and Lord unsaved.
 
Radiant1

Radiant1

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2ndAmendment said:
I can't agree with this.

I don't believe that the bread turns into flesh and the wine into blood and the Catholics did not believe in transubstantiation at first. They do now. I think it is error, but I don't think it makes those Catholics that believe in Jesus as Savior and Lord unsaved.
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Catholics always believed it, it just wasn't defined until a later date, and that only because it was necessary to do so at the time.

You forgot your disclaimer. :lol:
 
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libby

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Radiant1 said:
Catholics always believed it, it just wasn't defined until a later date, and that only because it was necessary to do so at the time.

You forgot your disclaimer. :lol:
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OHH! I know what I'm doing tomorrow! Gotta set 2A straight on church history.. On my way out for tonight, though!!

Have a safe and holy eve of the Feast of the Motherhood of the Blessed Virgin Mary!
 
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