Redskins Rant

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

Well-Known Member
I'm not obsessed with them I simply asked a question on what changes need to be made to be competitive in the NFC East. :confused:

Just curious.
How weren't they competitive in the NFC East?
Obviously, by the week 15 mark they were mathmatically out of the playoffs.
Sure, they didn't do great by any means, they did mediocre at best...especially the last half of the season.
But considering they were 3-3 in division games, just one win behind New York and tied with Dallas (in division wins), and were within playoff reach even though they all-but-blew in the final weeks, I wouldn't quite say that they weren't competitive in the East :shrug: Not competitive would have been a losing season, IMO (considering the other records this year).

That being said, I was disappointed this season and the 'Skins deserved/earned no more than their 8 and 8 record :buddies:
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
He's not as bad as he was at first, when he brought Jeff George and Deion Sanders in. Thank God he is not like the owner of 'America's Team' :killingme, boy I bet Ole Jerry is pissed this morning:yahoo: Comes out last week and says the coaching staff will stay intact for next year and then they turn around and get a good ole fashion azz kicking by Philly. Would have loved to have seem TO getting more and more pissed as the game went along, bet he wasnt quiet on the sidelines.:yahoo:

Gone through more coaches than any other in such a short period of time. Thinks big dollars = a winning team. He's all about the money and knows nothing about what it means to allow a coach to build a team. He has no patience, has not concept for building and is too involved in the field of play. I don't see where things have gotten better at all.

I think JJ gets football though. He has been an owner through great teams and bad ones. Snyder only gets one thing... MONEY! Throw some big bucks at some coaches and player and... WHALA... instant SB team .............................. NOT!

Let's see how things pan out next year. If the Skins don't make the playoff I almost willing to bet Zorn is gone.
 

Peter Forsberg

New Member
Just curious.
How weren't they competitive in the NFC East?
Obviously, by the week 15 mark they were mathmatically out of the playoffs.
Sure, they didn't do great by any means, they did mediocre at best...especially the last half of the season.
But considering they were 3-3 in division games, just one win behind New York and tied with Dallas (in division wins), and were within playoff reach even though they all-but-blew in the final weeks, I wouldn't quite say that they weren't competitive in the East :shrug: Not competitive would have been a losing season, IMO (considering the other records this year).

That being said, I was disappointed this season and the 'Skins deserved/earned no more than their 8 and 8 record :buddies:
Last time I checked they were last in the division. Granted the NFC East is the most difficult division in the NFL. Bengals and 49er's are games you have to win.
 
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BuddyLee

Football addict
Honestly?

Not Zorn or Campbell or Cerrato. Although I would like to see some sweeping changes this off-season. New kicker, #2 WR, better defensive tackle for starters.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
Last time I checked they were last in the division. Granted the NFC East is the most difficult division in the NFL. Bengals and 49er's are games you have to win.
You could say the same thing about the Iggles. They failed to win the Bungles game but still managed to make the playoffs.

#1 thing the Skins need are offensive linemen. Even with the old guys they're still better than the Iggles.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
That about sums up my feelings for that comment..lol..Just goes to show ya..
All one needs to remember is the Detroit game last season. Totally destroyed that safety.

Better yet, doing the same thing in week two last season to Brian Dawkins injuring him.

Clinton Portis wouldn't nearly have the yards he did this season or any without big Mike. The coaches, players and fans voted him to the pro-bowl this year so he's doing something right.
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
All one needs to remember is the Detroit game last season. Totally destroyed that safety.

Better yet, doing the same thing in week two last season to Brian Dawkins injuring him.

Clinton Portis wouldn't nearly have the yards he did this season or any without big Mike. The coaches, players and fans voted him to the pro-bowl this year so he's doing something right.

Did I hear that they lost to the 49er's? I didn't have the game on...
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
Offseason Begins, And Roster Decisions Are Looming

The word on everybody’s mind at Redskins Park on Monday?

Change.

No one seems to know for sure how much change is on the horizon for the Redskins.

Just that it could be coming.

And it could even be “shocking,” as Jason Campbell said during a Monday media session.

“We all have to be prepared for that,” Campbell said. “[Change] comes every offseason. Everybody understands that whatever we’re doing, it’s trying to improve the team.”

In his season-ending press conference, head coach Jim Zorn said that coaches and team officials will begin the process of evaluating this week the roster and take everything into account with each player.

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That includes contract status, salary cap ramifications, age, performance and ability, Zorn said.

“We aren’t going to make wholesale changes,” Zorn said. “My charge to all of our players is to get better. Even the guys that have been around for a while--they can improve.

“We’re not going to go and say, ‘We’re going to go ahead and replace 10-15 guys.’ Things do change. Every year, there are new players. Every year, players happen to move around a bit. It won’t happen immediately. It’ll weave its way as we go along.”

Under scrutiny is the Redskins’ offensive line and the defense as a whole, in part because there are aging veterans in many of those positions.

In 2004, the Redskins signed a group of free agents--Phillip Daniels, Marcus Washington, Cornelius Griffin and Shawn Springs, among others--that helped make up the core of the team the last five years.

They are all under contract for 2009, but the salary cap could play a role in whether they return next season.

In the last few weeks, several players have made a plea to keep the defense intact, particularly after the unit shut down the playoff-bound Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16.

Was it enough to stave off change?

Said Washington: “Teams are pretty good when they stay together a long time, like the New England Patriots and Pittsburgh Steelers have done. They have a core group of guys who have been on those teams for a while. But we also know there’s a business side of it and in the real world things don’t happen quite the way you want them to.”

Added Springs: “The bottom line is that [the team is] going to do what is best for them to win.”

Meantime, the offensive line consists of veterans all over the age of 30, and it has long been thought that an influx of youth is needed.

Pete Kendall is 35 and an unrestricted free agent. Both Jon Jansen and Randy Thomas turn 33 next month.

“I am not a spring chicken, but I have some good years in me whether it is here or somewhere else,” Jansen said.

“I would say I have had a great opportunity to play here and if the opportunity presented itself to play here again, I love playing in Washington and would continue to do so.”

Added Thomas: “I just do what I can do and I don’t really get involved in personnel issues. I just keep my mind looking forward. This is a business, so you never know and you have to be prepared for anything.”

Thomas is scheduled to undergo surgery in early January to repair bulging discs in his neck--another factor that could weigh whether the team brings him back, Zorn said.

Second-year player Stephon Heyer is the youngest lineman to see action on the Redskins’ offensive line last season.

“We’ll see what happens as to who fills which spots,” Heyer said. “Whoever is there, we’re going to have to be five guys on the same page. That’s what matters the most.”

Zorn said the evaluation process would include input from coaches and personnel officials.

Team officials will also “scheme evaluate,” Zorn added.

“I’m not talking about coming up with a whole new scheme on offense, I’m talking about looking at our schemes and building on our strengths,” he said.

“Then we’ll try to improve or close the gaps on our weaknesses.”

Zorn expects to continue serving as play-caller next year.

Change this offseason could include the Redskins’ coaching staff, but not if Zorn can help it.

He said his preference would be to have his entire coaching staff return for 2009. He acknowledged that some may get job offers elsewhere, though.

The Redskins can block an assistant coach from leaving for another team if the new position is not a promotion.

“I hope we can maintain our group,” Zorn said.

He expects offensive coordinator Sherman Smith, defensive coordinator Greg Blache and special teams coordinator Danny Smith to return in their current roles next season.

Offseason Begins, And Roster Decisions Are Looming
 

OldHillcrestGuy

Well-Known Member
Let's see how things pan out next year. If the Skins don't make the playoff I almost willing to bet Zorn is gone.

Agreed to some point, another 8-8 season will get him fired, alot of teams have improved recently in the NFC, Atlanta, Phoenix and watch out for San Francisco to name a few and the division the Skins are in is about the toughest even with a 10-6 or 11-5 season its possible to not make the playoffs, ask New England. I believe the Skins next year play the AFC West teams, which is the weak division in the AFC and Im not sure what division in the NFC they play, its not going to be the West cause they played them this year, hope its the North its the weaker then the South, the South is just about as strong as their division. IMO a 11-5 or 10-6 season even without a playoff spot proably wont get Zorn fired, he may even stay around another year with a 9-7 record.:shrug:
 
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