Relocatable Schools.

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residentofcre

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Ponytail said:
I heard estimates as high as 17,000 new jobs at PAX by 2008. :jameo:

He still has said where he would get the money other than to say the money is there.... but where and has it been in the captial budget for some time and just getting to maturity?

One last question... isn't it the duty of the commissioners to present the request for bonding authority to the Legislature? If he's going to just give away money... then Calvert could use a couple of enclosed pools and some stormwater management money....
 

Ponytail

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residentofcre said:
He still has said where he would get the money other than to say the money is there.... but where and has it been in the captial budget for some time and just getting to maturity?

One last question... isn't it the duty of the commissioners to present the request for bonding authority to the Legislature? If he's going to just give away money... then Calvert could use a couple of enclosed pools and some stormwater management money....

That's an easy one. He's going to work with Calvert Commisioners and demand that we harness our stormwater to flush our toilets with in CRE. It's simple.

The rest of our needs have been met already. We don't need anything. We're getting along just fine. We don't have any trailers at our schools that are visible from the main roads.
 
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JPC, Sr.

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The Preacher!

residentofcre said:
He still has said where he would get the money other than to say the money is there.... but where and has it been in the captial budget for some time and just getting to maturity?
:whack: The money is already in the school budget plans to build new schools. I do not want to create new expenditures. The problem is the growth that is overloading the schools and so stopping the growth will allow the present paid plans to catch up to the present situation and hopefully have a reduction in growth at the same time by getting those big Navy projects to relocate.
residentofrce said:
One last question... isn't it the duty of the commissioners to present the request for bonding authority to the Legislature? If he's going to just give away money... then Calvert could use a couple of enclosed pools and some stormwater management money....
:party: It is true that as Delegate for 29b then I would be expected to present the request from the local gov and surely I would always do just that. But every year there are many request made from every jurisdiction in Maryland and many of them get denied. So if the County Commissioners want Calvert County swimming pools or SMC Relocatable trailers then I would submit it but at the same time I would not support the measures.
:lalala:
 
J

JPC, Sr.

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Ponytail said:
I heard estimates as high as 17,000 new jobs at PAX by 2008. :jameo:
:cheers: I know it is rediculous. The growth is going to destroy our small community and create something big and nasty.

The Enterprise had two letters from the 29b area concerned about the reckless growth,

1) Click here for "Rezoning",
Letter to Editor from 29b, see last sentence "We are tired of being the dumping ground for development."

2) Click here for "Shortsighted",
Letter to Editor, possible 29b voter, see third paragraph down, "growth at Pax NAS and peripheral businesses" is the cause of the problem.

The voters of 29b do know what is going down. :howdy:
 
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residentofcre

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JPC said:
:whack: The money is already in the school budget plans to build new schools. I do not want to create new expenditures. The problem is the growth that is overloading the schools and so stopping the growth will allow the present paid plans to catch up to the present situation and hopefully have a reduction in growth at the same time by getting those big Navy projects to relocate. :party: It is true that as Delegate for 29b then I would be expected to present the request from the local gov and surely I would always do just that. But every year there are many request made from every jurisdiction in Maryland and many of them get denied. So if the County Commissioners want Calvert County swimming pools or SMC Relocatable trailers then I would submit it but at the same time I would not support the measures.
:lalala:


You do realize that putting in the funding for a school [without allowing for the temporary classrooms] will require adding funding to the request. Have you seen the cost of the schools they are building now?

Is the school on this year's capital projects budget? Is the amount of the bonding requested enough to carry the cost of both Maryland Mandated all day kindergarten and the larger school to accomodate growth without the relocatable classrooms?

Another matter that should be considered, I would think, is the cost of the land. A larger school will create the need for larger acreage. Is there land in the vicinity of the need? If the land is not available in the vicinity of the need, would the funding be available to fund the increased transportation costs.

Controlling growth is a great thing... I'm sure, however, that you know it's not wise to stop meeting the infrastructure needs of the current citizens as well.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
residentofcre said:
You do realize that putting in the funding for a school [without allowing for the temporary classrooms] will require adding funding to the request. Have you seen the cost of the schools they are building now?

Is the school on this year's capital projects budget? Is the amount of the bonding requested enough to carry the cost of both Maryland Mandated all day kindergarten and the larger school to accomodate growth without the relocatable classrooms?

Another matter that should be considered, I would think, is the cost of the land. A larger school will create the need for larger acreage. Is there land in the vicinity of the need? If the land is not available in the vicinity of the need, would the funding be available to fund the increased transportation costs.

Controlling growth is a great thing... I'm sure, however, that you know it's not wise to stop meeting the infrastructure needs of the current citizens as well.
you're giving him way too much credit Becky.
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
JPC said:
The growth is going to destroy our small community and create something big and nasty.
And you are the option for those that oppose growth. So apparently voters will be screwed either way.

JPC said:
"Shortsighted"
The view that "stopping" all growth and "relocating" so many Navy projects will help SMC is also severely short-sighted and illogical.


By the way...
None of the new retail stores is adequately staffed to properly serve the public as it is.
That is not necessarily related to the community, and almost certainly not the fault of the government. Retail installations routinely trim staff to a minimum so they can cut costs and increase net profit. It happens everywhere.
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
Midnightrider said:
you're giving him way too much credit Becky.
:yeahthat: Becky, you are assuming that JPC has actually been in government and knows how things work. He has already stated he refuses to be brainwashed and has learned things his own way. All you're doing is :blahblah:.
 
J

JPC, Sr.

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The Preacher!

residentofcre said:
You do realize that putting in the funding for a school [without allowing for the temporary classrooms] will require adding funding to the request. Have you seen the cost of the schools they are building now?
:popcorn: I have seen the high cost of school construction but providing schools is like the number one job of government, so we pay. So I do not see any reason not to add funding to the request if it gives us higher quality school conditions and gets rid of those horrid trailers. But still I see there is plenty of capitol already available and if the growth is put under control then everything else will be much easier to control too.
residentofrce said:
Is the school on this year's capital projects budget? Is the amount of the bonding requested enough to carry the cost of both Maryland Mandated all day kindergarten and the larger school to accomodate growth without the relocatable classrooms?

Another matter that should be considered, I would think, is the cost of the land. A larger school will create the need for larger acreage. Is there land in the vicinity of the need? If the land is not available in the vicinity of the need, would the funding be available to fund the increased transportation costs.
:coffee: The school already planned in this year's budget and new land to for Wildewood Elementary school is reported here in this link,

click here for Washington Post report on new SMC school.

In a Capitalist system (as we have) then government is to provide infrastructure for the free enterprise to flurish, but gov is not to supply growth or to create jobs, and when the infrastructure is overloaded then that means the Capitalist are not doing their job. We could not even grow with any real business or new industry because the Navy base growth is overloading all our resources, and the Base is not free enterprise and it could pack up and just leave after it dumps all this reckless destruction onto our home town. I want it to be stopped now.
residentofrce said:
Controlling growth is a great thing... I'm sure, however, that you know it's not wise to stop meeting the infrastructure needs of the current citizens as well.
:flowers: I say to stop the growth that is creating the citizen's need, a big difference.

Here is another reference link about the schools first then the growth.

See in that link the County Commissioners (SMC) know what to do and have started the process but their way is to accommodate the reckless growth - being an enabler and a reactionary Board - the local gov is not to "support the Navy" but is to protect and serve St. Mary's County and this shows the problem, just like putting buckets under an overflowing sink while we need to shut off the water or the source of the growth and that is what I will do when elected. We are not to be the servants of the Navy base as the Navy Base is the un-nice guest now in our home.

Note that article by the SMC County Commissioners is from 2004 and the problem is now worse in 2006.
:yeahthat:
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
JPC said:
:cheers: I know it is rediculous. The growth is going to destroy our small community and create something big and nasty.

The Enterprise had two letters from the 29b area concerned about the reckless growth,

1) Click here for "Rezoning",
Letter to Editor from 29b, see last sentence "We are tired of being the dumping ground for development."

2) Click here for "Shortsighted",
Letter to Editor, possible 29b voter, see third paragraph down, "growth at Pax NAS and peripheral businesses" is the cause of the problem.

The voters of 29b do know what is going down. :howdy:
Ive got a suggestion for making room for one more person. It has the added benefit of opening up a computer at the lexington park library and increasing the overall I.Q. of the county as a whole.
 
J

JPC, Sr.

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The Preacher!

Merlin99 said:
Ive got a suggestion for making room for one more person. It has the added benefit of opening up a computer at the lexington park library and increasing the overall I.Q. of the county as a whole.
:popcorn: I know people makes jokes all the time, but one must be careful about what is said because many others do not understand joking like I do, words can get people into very big troubles.

Peace, :peace:
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
JPC said:
:popcorn: I know people makes jokes all the time, but one must be careful about what is said because many others do not understand joking like I do, words can get people into very big troubles.

Peace, :peace:
:killingme You are too freaking funny, slick. To imply Merlin99's suggestion as anything worthy of causing them trouble is humorous.

But it is nice to notice that you are going to fix the school problem that has already been fixed by those currently governing. As you have said money is there, schools are being renovated or built new. It's planned to continue well into the next decade. And yet you hold this as one of your major campaign issues, you want to fight an already won battle and you're fighting on the side that won.

Do you care to tell us how many new schools are planned on being built?
 
J

JPC, Sr.

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The Preacher!

Ken King said:
:killingme You are too freaking funny, slick. To imply Merlin99's suggestion as anything worthy of causing them trouble is humorous.
:lmao: Well I did say that I do have a sense of humor.
Ken King said:
But it is nice to notice that you are going to fix the school problem that has already been fixed by those currently governing. As you have said money is there, schools are being renovated or built new. It's planned to continue well into the next decade. And yet you hold this as one of your major campaign issues, you want to fight an already won battle and you're fighting on the side that won.
:crazy: I really do agree that the County has been doing a great job of accommodating the growth and the Board of Education is doing great too. We have the best system and best of personel in those positions. My problem is that they are forced into accommodating the reckless and excessive growth and the County is enabling that destructive political policy of out-of-control growth to continue.

I want to stop putting this senseless pressure onto our local gov and stop forcing the schools to accommodate the reckless growth and help the police and the jail overcrowding too by stopping the growth that is overloading our entire infrastructure.

I like the Board of Education and I love our schools and so I want us to stop trashing our system with the out-of-control destructive growth.

Now that McKay is getting out of the County Commissioners then I expect that to improve very much too.

I say that if we like what we have then lets stop destroying it with needless growth.
Ken King said:
Do you care to tell us how many new schools are planned on being built?
:whistle: I do know that we have new schools in the plans but we still have excessive growth coming in far to fast. With the 84 school trailers for classrooms then we already have enough students to completely fill a big new school if it were built instantaniously. The brand new G.W. Carver Elementary school just now opened is crammed full on the first day and we still have all 84 Relocatable school trailers and bringing in more trailers to handle more and more reckless growth.

If we like our schools then we need to stop dumping the growth onto the schools. When I get elected that process of protecting our infrastructure will begin.
:clap:
 

Ponytail

New Member
JPC said:
If we like our schools then we need to stop dumping the growth onto the schools. When I get elected that process of protecting our infrastructure will begin.
:clap:


With such reckless optimism, I'm amazed that you haven't done more with your life.
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
Ponytail said:
:shrug: Do they still hold elections for "Village Idiot"?
No that's one that the job selects the individual instead of the other way around.
 
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