Relocatable Schools.

[JPC, Sr.]

The Preacher!

Nothing short of a communist state with forced birth control and life limits can control population growth and the only way to avoid further impact from that growth is for people like you that are so upset about it is to go out and purchase every piece of property there is so that you can do with it what you like.

I am certainly not talking about stopping human growth or stopping human reproduction. I want to stop the business growth and the excess population coming from the influx of business.

We do not need - and our infrastructure can not handle the big Navy projects like the Multi Mission Aircraft, the Joint Strike Fighter project, the Presidential Helicopter, or any big new Navy project that brings more people to St. Mary's County and is overloading our infrastructure and especially overloading our schools. If those projects move out then its population will move out with them. The same for any and all new businesses moving here as they can just turn around and move on out. The local population can still grow naturally but having this big influx of new business and excess population being dumped onto this area is what needs to be stopped. The recent Maryland Reality check has said they plan on some 22,000 new households or 50,000 new people coming to St. Mary's by the year 2030, but not if I get elected.

If I get elected then we will stop being their dumping ground and Bohanan's wide open door to all dumping will end and the Navy will stop being our master in our home town. I will not allow St. Mary's County to be their servant to dump on any more.

 

[Ken King]

I am certainly not talking about stopping human growth or stopping human reproduction. I want to stop the business growth and the excess population coming from the influx of business.

We do not need - and our infrastructure can not handle the big Navy projects like the Multi Mission Aircraft, the Joint Strike Fighter project, the Presidential Helicopter, or any big new Navy project that brings more people to St. Mary's County and is overloading our infrastructure and especially overloading our schools. If those projects move out then its population will move out with them. The same for any and all new businesses moving here as they can just turn around and move on out. The local population can still grow naturally but having this big influx of new business and excess population being dumped onto this area is what needs to be stopped. The recent Maryland Reality check has said they plan on some 22,000 new households or 50,000 new people coming to St. Mary's by the year 2030, but not if I get elected.

If I get elected then we will stop being their dumping ground and Bohanan's wide open door to all dumping will end and the Navy will stop being our master in our home town. I will not allow St. Mary's County to be their servant to dump on any more.

How are you going to stop anyone from coming to this area? Delegates have no say about what Federal projects come to the Federal installations in the area. And even if you did have a say and could influence what projects come to Patuxent River what are you going to do to curb the greatest component of our growth, the migration of those from the urban areas to the rural areas? That will still continue, will it not? What are your plans to halt this part of the expansion, a big fence and county border patrol?

Your "vision" is too narrow and unrealistic if you see those projects as being the greatest source of the county growth. Of the 50,000 new residents that are being prophesized I suspect less then 10% of that can be attributed to employment growth at Patuxent River and any new projects.. Not to mention that blocking those projects from coming here will induce the Navy to pull up and take all of its work elsewhere leaving no industry for the people of the area. Is that your real goal, to put everyone in the county on the dole like you? Is it your "vision" to make St. Mary's County the welfare capital of the state, if so, how will you fund that Mr. Wannabe Delegate?

 

[Sharon]

We do not need - and our infrastructure can not handle the big Navy projects like the Multi Mission Aircraft, the Joint Strike Fighter project, the Presidential Helicopter, or any big new Navy project that brings more people to St. Mary's County and is overloading our infrastructure and especially overloading our schools. If those projects move out then its population will move out with them. The same for any and all new businesses moving here as they can just turn around and move on out. The local population can still grow naturally but having this big influx of new business and excess population being dumped onto this area is what needs to be stopped. The recent Maryland Reality check has said they plan on some 22,000 new households or 50,000 new people coming to St. Mary's by the year 2030, but not if I get elected.

You want to turn it into a ghost town? When technology goes, will you have the neighborhoods torn down and tobacco farms replanted?

 

[hvp05]

The plan is...

Yes, we all know well what your hypothetical plan is. But the question remains: how will you initiate that plan into action. How? How? How?

Maybe - and I stress, maybe - you can comprehend a simple example: Imagine I want to go to the grocery store. My first action may be to say, "I want to go to the grocery store."

But how do I get there? My own vehicle or public transportation? If by public transportation, what is the pick-up schedule, or how do I request pick-up? Do I have enough for the fare?

If by my own vehicle, do I have enough gas? My keys? Is my vehicle capable of making the trip?

Upon arriving at the store I shall face new questions. What do I need to buy? Am I searching for a few specific items or a week's supply? How much money do I have?

Now, when most people plan a trip to the grocery store they don't analyze the process too strictly. Regardless, we all need to form some kind of plan and execute said plan. Otherwise, you will walk in circles ad infinitum muttering, "The plan is... I want to go to the grocery store."

In your case, JPC, revealing a detailed plan of HOW you will stop the growth is about as fruitful as feeding my cats aluminum foil in hopes that they will crap gold nuggets.

Are you scared to unveil this wondrous plan? (If you think it may hinder your chances on election day, don't worry... you are already doomed.)

You want to turn it into a ghost town? When technology goes, will you have the neighborhoods torn down and tobacco farms replanted?

Exactly. Don't forget the removal of all indoor plumbing county-wide, forbidding the use of electric-powered items and traveling by horse and buggy.

Maybe JPC is Amish and just has not realized it yet. Of course, if he did convert, he would have to cancel his subscription to, Jugs.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Preacher!

You want to turn it into a ghost town? When technology goes, will you have the neighborhoods torn down and tobacco farms replanted?

St. Mary's is never going to turn into a ghost town as this is a geat place. We have three sides of waterfront and pleasent weather and clear skies. People come here to take our prize away from us. St. Mary's County is a treasure and we are allowing the excessive growth to overrun everything of value here and I want to save our home town.

Technology will always be here as we have the Internet and we certainly are not going to turn into some third world country status no matter what happens.

Plus ghost towns are pretty cool.

 

[hvp05]

St. Mary's is never going to turn into a ghost town as this is a geat place. We have three sides of waterfront and pleasent weather and clear skies. People come here to take our prize away from us.

Every man, woman and child should gather 'round to witness this amazing creature: it is JPC, the man who can speak out of both sides of his mouth AT THE SAME TIME!!

You are effectively saying, "We live in a wonderful, beautiful county. Now let's move everyone away so they can never see it again."

Technology will always be here as we have the Internet and we certainly are not going to turn into some third world country status no matter what happens.

Now you are effectively saying that, even if you are elected and given control of 29B, any changes you institute will ultimately be worthless.

Do you think these machines and systems operate independently? There must be people behind the machines. Force the people away, the technology goes with them.

Plus ghost towns are pretty cool.

Yeah, as tourist attractions. But you would not even want that, because to support a tourist industry requires roads, parking and businesses to cater to those visitors. What you truly want is a barren desert, a shell of a town to live in.

I guess that doesn't seem so bad when you don't rely on a job for your income like the stupid, over-populating normal folks.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Preacher!

How are you going to stop anyone from coming to this area? Delegates have no say about what Federal projects come to the Federal installations in the area.

Yes the Delegate has much they can say and can do, but our present Delegate has sold us out to his bossman.

Here is a link, Steny Hoyer gets the Presidential Helicopter to move into Pax NAS.

Bohanan is not in that link but it was his place in 29b to tell Hoyer "NO" and to tell the Navy "NO" too.

 

[Ken King]

Yes the Delegate has much they can say and can do, but our present Delegate has sold us out to his bossman.

Here is a link, Steny Hoyer gets the Presidential Helicopter to move into Pax NAS.

Bohanan is not in that link but it was his place in 29b to tell Hoyer "NO" and to tell the Navy "NO" too.

Care to show me where in the process of creating and locating military projects where the line for input from local delegates is? Hoyer might take credit for what comes here and what doesn't, but I don't think he has that much pull other than inheriting this facility back when the Congressional areas were redistricted. Regardless of our Congressperson the activities here would be much the same. But like always you can believe whatever it is you want.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Preacher!

Care to show me where in the process of creating and locating military projects where the line for input from local delegates is? Hoyer might take credit for what comes here and what doesn't, but I don't think he has that much pull other than inheriting this facility back when the Congressional areas were redistricted. Regardless of our Congressperson the activities here would be much the same. But like always you can believe whatever it is you want.

It is not a matter of the Delegate for 29b controlling the Navy or controlling military projects. If I get elected then I will protect our County's infrastructure. That is what Hoyer and Bohanan has failed to do. We do not have the housing for the excessive growth and our schools are already overloaded and roads, sewage, water, jail, etc., are all over burdened by the reckless growth and that is what our area's Representatives needed to defend and protect. We are not some occupied territory where the US military can dump anything onto our area and the local population must suck it up. It is that way now because Hoyer and Bohanan are playing for their own intentions and not for the benefit of St. Mary's County and or for 29b.

As Delegate then I will not tell the Navy what they can or can not do, I will tell them what they can and can not do to District 29b. If the Navy is determined to bring reckless growth to its Navy Station then they can provide their own housing and stop the super inflation here. The Navy can bring a bridge from PAX NAS over to District 29c and take all their inflation over there and see if the Delegate to 29c will dump on their home town the reckless way that it is being dumped on to St. Mary's County.

You can surely believe that if I get elected then the growth being dumped onto St. Mary's County is going to end and we are going to put some hard controls on any future growth.

But if I do lose then we get crapped on even more.

 

[Ken King]

It is not a matter of the Delegate for 29b controlling the Navy or controlling military projects. If I get elected then I will protect our County's infrastructure. That is what Hoyer and Bohanan has failed to do. We do not have the housing for the excessive growth and our schools are already overloaded and roads, sewage, water, jail, etc., are all over burdened by the reckless growth and that is what our area's Representatives needed to defend and protect. We are not some occupied territory where the US military can dump anything onto our area and the local population must suck it up. It is that way now because Hoyer and Bohanan are playing for their own intentions and not for the benefit of St. Mary's County and or for 29b.

But isn't that what you have been going on about, how you will stop the growth? Are you now saying that you can't do anything about it?

As Delegate then I will not tell the Navy what they can or can not do, I will tell them what they can and can not do to District 29b. If the Navy is determined to bring reckless growth to its Navy Station then they can provide their own housing and stop the super inflation here. The Navy can bring a bridge from PAX NAS over to District 29c and take all their inflation over there and see if the Delegate to 29c will dump on their home town the reckless way that it is being dumped on to St. Mary's County.

So your intent, if elected, is to discriminate against the military personnel in areas of housing, schools, and other amenities provided to the rest of the citizens in district 29B. Do you even read the words that you write?

You can surely believe that if I get elected then the growth being dumped onto St. Mary's County is going to end and we are going to put some hard controls on any future growth.

But if I do lose then we get crapped on even more.

Well no worries here because the chance of you being elected is about as likely as finding a snowball in Hell. I wonder were you born this stupid or did you have specialized training to reach the level that you have attained?

 

[Merlin99]

It is not a matter of the Delegate for 29b controlling the Navy or controlling military projects. If I get elected then I will protect our County's infrastructure. That is what Hoyer and Bohanan has failed to do. We do not have the housing for the excessive growth and our schools are already overloaded and roads, sewage, water, jail, etc., are all over burdened by the reckless growth and that is what our area's Representatives needed to defend and protect. We are not some occupied territory where the US military can dump anything onto our area and the local population must suck it up. It is that way now because Hoyer and Bohanan are playing for their own intentions and not for the benefit of St. Mary's County and or for 29b.

As Delegate then I will not tell the Navy what they can or can not do, I will tell them what they can and can not do to District 29b. If the Navy is determined to bring reckless growth to its Navy Station then they can provide their own housing and stop the super inflation here. The Navy can bring a bridge from PAX NAS over to District 29c and take all their inflation over there and see if the Delegate to 29c will dump on their home town the reckless way that it is being dumped on to St. Mary's County.

You can surely believe that if I get elected then the growth being dumped onto St. Mary's County is going to end and we are going to put some hard controls on any future growth.

But if I do lose then we get crapped on even more.

Dammit, the library opened

 

[Ponytail]

...You can surely believe that if I get elected then the growth being dumped onto St. Mary's County is going to end and we are going to put some hard controls on any future growth. ...

Ok. Lets get back to simple. One question at a time. In the above quote, you said that if you are elected, you would put "hard controls" on any fiture growth.

Like what? What would be the controls that you would put into place?

As a side note, I have 10 houses on my street. Care to take a guess how many of those houses have even ONE house member working on base?

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Preacher!

Ok. Lets get back to simple. One question at a time. In the above quote, you said that if you are elected, you would put "hard controls" on any fiture growth.

Like what? What would be the controls that you would put into place?

I would want to not have any more trailers as classrooms and we would not allow any excessive growth that forced our schools to use the second rate conditions. And no more Relocatable trailers means nothing similar like temporary out houses or anything that forces the students outside of the school building because of overcrowding.

The same with housing and jail space and roads, sewage, water, and etc., in that we must never allow the growth to overload our infrastructure again.

That is the type of growth control that I want.

As a side note, I have 10 houses on my street. Care to take a guess how many of those houses have even ONE house member working on base?

I have no idea and I do not want to guess. But stopping the reckless growth will not negatively affect anyone, except maybe those that put their personal greed over top of the betterment of St. Mary's County.

 

[harleygirl]

I would want to not have any more trailers as classrooms and we would not allow any excessive growth that forced our schools to use the second rate conditions. And no more Relocatable trailers means nothing similar like temporary out houses or anything that forces the students outside of the school building because of overcrowding.

The same with housing and jail space and roads, sewage, water, and etc., in that we must never allow the growth to overload our infrastructure again.

That is the type of growth control that I want. I have no idea and I do not want to guess. But stopping the reckless growth will not negatively affect anyone, except maybe those that put their personal greed over top of the betterment of St. Mary's County.

And how is it "wiz" you would stop the growth??

 

[ylexot]

we would not allow any excessive growth

How?

 

[Ponytail]

I would want to not have any more trailers as classrooms and we would not allow any excessive growth that forced our schools to use the second rate conditions. And no more Relocatable trailers means nothing similar like temporary out houses or anything that forces the students outside of the school building because of overcrowding.

The same with housing and jail space and roads, sewage, water, and etc., in that we must never allow the growth to overload our infrastructure again.

That is the type of growth control that I want. I have no idea and I do not want to guess. But stopping the reckless growth will not negatively affect anyone, except maybe those that put their personal greed over top of the betterment of St. Mary's County.

You have proven once again, that you HAVE NO PLAN, and NO clue. You have NOT gone out and actually met anyone in your district to get THEIR OPINIONS on your platform, you have absolutely no support from anyone. You are running PURELY on the illusion that people want what you want and that they see what you see. But you don't see ANYTHING as it is. You see what you want to see, understand what you want and in ways that ONLY you want to understand it.

You are wasting your time, and thankfully, wasting ours on here. That's the only thing you seem to be good for, is helping all of us forumites that actually givachit, waste more of our day trying to straighten out your dumb azz.

You are NO DOUBT a textbook sociopath. I only hope that you are unable to sway even a single voter in your campaign. Further more, I can only hope that you are unable to sway even a single person to look at you as a worthy human being for friendship. That would be a TOTAL waste of an otherwise healthy mind and spirit. Thankfully this is not a HUGE worry for me, as you have proven to not have enough smarts to sound remotely intelligent to anyone that would care.

Yep, this sounds harsh, but you know what? It's NOTHING compared to the affects that sociopaths such as yourself can have on the "victims". And ANYONE in your circle of acquaintences, are just that...victims. You are about as as they come.

Now comes the offer for help. Seek it. It's in Leonardtown.

http://www.arcsomd.org/IBMS Page.htm

At the VERY least, get a phychological evaluation for your own peace of mind.

I'll donate to your campaign if you post the meat of the evaluation here.

 

[residentofcre]

I'd like to, once again, state that the reason we use relocatable classrooms in Calvert County is economic.

New schools and new classrooms are expensive. Therefore they have to go on the Capital Budget. For the most part it takes several years to move something as costly as a school through all the hoops. There is legislature, bonding, and demographics involved.

It's very rare that one of these has a problem. Our children are more likely to have an accident while on a school bus than being caught in a fire in a relocatable classroom.

Responsible leadership requires you to have some fiscal knowledge as well as pie-in-the-sky wishes. All of us would like our infrastructure to move faster but that is not the case.

I would like to hear how you would pay for the new schools or classroom space you would require immediately in order to do away with these classroom trailers.

A good mantra to learn is the one Delegate Owings taught me... "You can have anything you want as long as you know how you are going to pay for it."

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Preacher!

I would like to hear how you would pay for the new schools or classroom space you would require immediately in order to do away with these classroom trailers.

That is a tough question but I think I have the answer.

First, even if the school trailers were made safe then they are still sloppy and inferior and the schools need to do away with such second rate conditions.

There is already enough money in the present budget for Capital expenditures based on the present overloading of our area's schools so the Board of Education already have plans in place to build new schools. It is just that we have so many more students coming in from the reckless growth that is causing the overload and the need for the Relocatable classroom trailers.

To accomplish this then the first and foremost priority would be to stop the growth. The reckless growth is what has caused the overloading and that growth is continuing the problem still now.

I could not get rid of the Relocatable trailers immediately but in 2 or 3 years then many if not most of the 84 trailers could be put out of service and with that momentum I could finish getting rid of all those second rate trailers forever.

I see the issue like having a sink stopped up and the water faucet turned on and the water overflowing and people putting buckets down to catch the overflowing water. So I am saying that we do not need more buckets and what we do need is to turn off the water, and if I am elected then I will turn off the reckless flow of growth and then the new schools already planned and paid for will replace the classroom trailers, and then I will do the best I can to make certain that we never use the trailers again, and that we never allow reckless growth to overload our infrastructure again as it is so foolishly being done now.

 

[Midnightrider]

To accomplish this then the first and foremost priority would be to stop the growth. The reckless growth is what has caused the overloading and that growth is continuing the problem still now.

So how are you going to stop the growth?

Especially considering that several big projects are gearing up at pax, and this will most likely mean even more people moving into the area?

Also, have you started collecting job applications so that you can begin applying as soon as you are embarrassed in the primary?
Obviously you can work a job if you think you can handle working in politics.

 

[Ponytail]

So how are you going to stop the growth?

Especially considering that several big projects are gearing up at pax, and this will most likely mean even more people moving into the area?

Also, have you started collecting job applications so that you can begin applying as soon as you are embarrassed in the primary?
Obviously you can work a job if you think you can handle working in politics.

I heard estimates as high as 17,000 new jobs at PAX by 2008.