Ron Paul on Glen Beck tonight ....

[vraiblonde]

See, when Glenn brought that up, I saw him responding to that question like the 'what do you say about Ron Paul supporters issuing me death threats?' question, a 'what do you want from me' response.

And again, I gave the perfect response. The fact that Ron Paul was basically, whaddaya want me to do about it? tells me he's a limp jerk. And of course, that was reinforced by his unwarranted attack on Mike Huckabee. If he can't even lead his supporters, he certainly can't lead the country.

Paul can't open his mouth without sticking his foot in it. And they say *W* has diplomacy issues.

And rather than be disturbed that David Duke likes Paul, it should concern you more that Lefty DU-types like him.

 

[Larry Gude]

Is that right?

And rather than be disturbed that David Duke likes Paul, it should concern you more that Lefty DU-types like him.

...lefties support the drastic reduction of government, the right to keep and bear arms, our withdrawal from the UN? DU'ers support the abolition of not only the IRS but the income tax as well? Left wingers support drilling in ANWR and increased pumping and drilling throughout the nation? Tin hat lefties are for nuclear power plants? Increased states rights?

I know you don't like the guy, but, come on. If they, the left, are giving him cash and support because he wants us out of Iraq tomorrow, what the heck.

I am still not communicating by basic point; we have been lead by personalities for the last 4 elections. Perhaps being lead by a person who is lead by our laws, not his desires, might be a successful change for the national better.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

And again, I gave the perfect response. The fact that Ron Paul was basically, whaddaya want me to do about it? tells me he's a limp jerk. And of course, that was reinforced by his unwarranted attack on Mike Huckabee. If he can't even lead his supporters, he certainly can't lead the country.

Paul can't open his mouth without sticking his foot in it. And they say *W* has diplomacy issues.

And rather than be disturbed that David Duke likes Paul, it should concern you more that Lefty DU-types like him.

So the President has to be a nice guy? :shrug:



































... Just like Carter, right?

Carter was a nice guy. By your standards, Carter was a great President.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Here's what's going on in Huckabee's effed up mind.

Vote for Ron Paul, not for this liberal hatred spewing venomous snake.

To me, and to most voters my age, a comment like that is WAY over the top. It's like saying someone should go to hell because they think Jessica Alba's hot and Susan Estrich is not.

Voters in the younger demographic (except for those who wish to base the law on religion and religion alone) don't give an eff about one's sexual orientation.

This dude is a crackpot old fool.

I don't believe the poll numbers at this point. The media's hyping him up because he'd be sqwuashed by Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama in a general election. THIS is how the Democrats take full control of the Congress and the Executive branch. If that happens, we're all effed (and I'm moving to either Australia, Canada or London).

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

And rather than be disturbed that David Duke likes Paul, it should concern you more that Lefty DU-types like him.

It should concern you that MSNBC likes Mike Huckabee, whereas Glenn Beck likes Dr. Paul.

 

[Sonsie]

Ron Paul was being rather coy about his 9/11 views and I gather (didn't watch the interview). Given the fact he has appeared on Alex Jones's nationally syndicated radio show 4 times he has to be VERY familiar with the Truther movement. Alex Jones, as well as being one of the most well known people in the movement, is the founder of Infowars and Prison Planet websites which are chock full o' nutty goodness.

 

[2ndAmendment]

...that's not good. See, when Glenn brought that up, I saw him responding to that question like the 'what do you say about Ron Paul supporters issuing me death threats?' question, a 'what do you want from me' response.

In any event, I have a serious problem if David Duke and the quack brigades like him.

Guess I need to find out why.

The David Duke's of the U.S. and their companions have been saying that the federal government is out of control and not abiding by the Constitution for a lot longer than Ron Paul has been running for President or even a Congressman. Granted, they have some views that are further out, but that does not mean by any means that Ron Paul endorses their beliefs.

Ron Paul believes in the authority of the Constitution. He believes in the absolute inalienable rights guaranteed, not granted, by the Bill of Rights. Many people with even more radical beliefs believe that also. Just because highly radical people believe in the Constitution and support Ron Paul because he is the only candidate of either party that truly believes the Constitution does not mean the converse is true. Ron Paul is not a white supremest or neo-Nazi or whatever.

A simpler analogy is I like to eat uni. Sharon likes me. Therefore Sharon must like to eat uni. It is a non sequitur. And I guarantee you that Sharon does not like uni. For those that do not know, uni is raw sea urchin, a type of sushi.

Why people jump to non sequiturs like that is beyond me? The press does it all the time. Makes for great sensationalism and leads lots of people into false assumptions.

 

[Larry Gude]

That's non sense...

A simpler analogy is I like to eat uni. Sharon likes me. Therefore Sharon must like to eat uni. It is a non sequitur. And I guarantee you that Sharon does not like uni. For those that do not know, uni is raw sea urchin, a type of sushi.

Why people jump to non sequiturs like that is beyond me? The press does it all the time. Makes for great sensationalism and leads lots of people into false assumptions.

...and it is not beyond you. One's view of a barely edible blop of seafood is hardly of a kind with the noxious views of David Duke and any other supremacist and/or separatist. We are ONE people, at least that is the goal and that is codified in our founding documents; we are all created equal.

No one is required to like or love or live with a criminal. That is judging on the content of ones character. To judge one by their color or creed, to not only disagree, which is fine and healthy in a free society, but to see ones self as inherently above others, regardless of character, and not to be bothered with 'lesser' others is as unconstitutional and un-American as it gets.

Paul doesn't need to answer for uni eaters no matter how vile that may be. Nor does he have to answer to nameless, faceless letter writers and haters drifting in cyber space.

He does have to answer for public figures and positions such as David Duke when they claim to be supporters whether he claims them or not.

 

[vraiblonde]

Why people jump to non sequiturs like that is beyond me? The press does it all the time. Makes for great sensationalism and leads lots of people into false assumptions.

Look at you and me, all agreeing and ####, getting into the holiday spirit

Really, that sort of faulty cause/effect debate is boring to me, and not worth responding to. Except for this:

Paul doesn't need to answer for uni eaters no matter how vile that may be. Nor does he have to answer to nameless, faceless letter writers and haters drifting in cyber space.

Again, if Ron Paul cannot even lead his supporters, I have no reason to believe that he can lead the country.

 

[vraiblonde]

He does have to answer for public figures and positions such as David Duke when they claim to be supporters whether he claims them or not.

Okay, so he doesn't have to answer for his death-threat spewing supporters, but he DOES have to answer for this particular supporter, who (as far as I'm aware) isn't issuing death threats against anyone.

That makes no sense.

 

[vraiblonde]

It should concern you that MSNBC likes Mike Huckabee, whereas Glenn Beck likes Dr. Paul.

Why? I'm not voting for Huckabee, either. And Glen Beck liking Ron Paul must be a recent development, because it wasn't two weeks ago that Beck was taking him apart on the air.

As far as your Mother Jones article goes, that whole thing is bull####. Just because you don't jump on the homo bandwagon doesn't mean that you're a hatred spewing snake. That's something the leftwing media has fed you, and you gobbled it up and asked for more.

Not a Huckabee fan, as I've said repeatedly, but fair is fair. Let's not go off on some little witch hunt, shall we?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Why? I'm not voting for Huckabee, either. And Glen Beck liking Ron Paul must be a recent development, because it wasn't two weeks ago that Beck was taking him apart on the air.

As far as your Mother Jones article goes, that whole thing is bull####. Just because you don't jump on the homo bandwagon doesn't mean that you're a hatred spewing snake. That's something the leftwing media has fed you, and you gobbled it up and asked for more.

Not a Huckabee fan, as I've said repeatedly, but fair is fair. Let's not go off on some little witch hunt, shall we?

The article I provided was the first link in a Google News search. :shrug:

Look, I don't like homosexuality anymore than you do. But, it's not that big of a deal to people my age. Who gives an eff? Saying that homosexuality is worse than pedophilia, well that's just way over the top. Between that and Huckabee's shady history, he's unelectable.

I've said before, homosexuality should be a non-issue. Speaking out about it is just asking for problems. Besides, it looks like more Congressmen are homosexual than actual people.

I'm far more Christian than most other people out there, though you wouldn't guess that. I may not speak the words of Jesus 24/7, but I do practice the words of Jesus. I don't make religious statements and then do the oppositte behind the scenes. I'm from the south, and I believe in God and our country. I also believe in the Constitution, and I don't think it's right to write laws based entirely on religious beliefs.

Comparing homosexuality to necrophelia and pedophilia is bitter hatred Vrai, sorry. And statements like that are why the youth of America vote Democratic.

 

[Dork]

Huckabee certainly does not appeal to the extreme right. Huckabee is a liberal in many areas, immigration, defense to name just two. He surged because he is not afraid to embrace and defend his Christianity. I admire him for that, but I would not vote for him because he is so neo-liberal.

If it came down to Huckabee v. Hillary, would you vote for him?

Oh, by him, I am referring to Huckabee (not Hillary)

 

[vraiblonde]

Look, I don't like homosexuality anymore than you do.

Andy, WTF are you talking about????? I have been a rather outspoken proponent of the "Who cares?" theory when it comes to other peoples' sex lives.

Maybe if you'd pull your head out of your ass and READ for a change, you'd conjure up a clue.

 

[Pete]

You tell her Andy!

 

[Larry Gude]

I am starting...

Okay, so he doesn't have to answer for his death-threat spewing supporters, but he DOES have to answer for this particular supporter, who (as far as I'm aware) isn't issuing death threats against anyone.

That makes no sense.

...to think that maybe you don't like Ron Paul so much.

I will bet you that people claiming to be backers of every single candidate for the last 100 years have written nasty grams, issued threats and all around exhibited ugly behavior in the name of their chosen one against any and all who dare question them.

Now, if you accept that, then, why is Ron Paul being asked about 'his' wacko's and Hillary and Barrack and Rudy and Huck and everyone else is not?

If you don't accept that, I think you're being silly. Supporters on the left call people Nazi's in public. Imagine what they say in letters and e mails. In this nation of celebrity craze, you gotta believe that Rudy, McCain, all of them, have people sending ugly notes and e mails in the name of support for their chosen one.

For every Hinckley, how many 1,000's do we never hear about because they aren't actually going to harm anyone?

So, on that basis, I think it is pointless to ask a candidate about some crazy person or two or 100 that send threats to people and I think it is pertinent to address public, credible people like Duke.

 

[vraiblonde]

Now, if you accept that, then, why is Ron Paul being asked about 'his' wacko's and Hillary and Barrack and Rudy and Huck and everyone else is not?

Oh cut it out.

Ron Paul was on Glen Beck's program. Glen Beck himself has received nastygrams and death threats from Paul supporters. Glen handed Paul the perfect opportunity to show some maturity and leadership skills, and he blew it.

Now, I understand that you are a big Ron Paul fan, but please. I hope I never get so emotionally involved with some politician that I have to polish every turd they lay down.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I would vote for...

If it came down to Huckabee v. Hillary, would you vote for him?

Oh, by him, I am referring to Huckabee (not Hillary)

... neither.

I'd vote for an Independent candidate (if they are worthy).

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Andy, WTF are you talking about????? I have been a rather outspoken proponent of the "Who cares?" theory when it comes to other peoples' sex lives.

Maybe if you'd pull your head out of your ass and READ for a change, you'd conjure up a clue.

My, oh my aren't we in a sour mood this morning.

You says you don't care. So, you find Huckabee's remarks offensive and way over the top?

I should rephrase, I'm against homosexuality in general, but it's not affecting my life so, I dont really care.

I get it, you don't like Ron Paul, because he doesn't make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. Okay, fair enough.

 

[vraiblonde]

My, oh my aren't we in a sour mood this morning.

No, I'm not in a sour mood. I'm just sick of your stupid ####, putting words in my mouth and attributing opinions to me when I have expressed just the exact opposite on numerous occasions.