Ron Paul on Glen Beck tonight ....

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

No, I'm not in a sour mood. I'm just sick of your stupid ####, putting words in my mouth and attributing opinions to me when I have expressed just the exact opposite on numerous occasions.

I don't think I put words in your mouth, Vrai.

 

[Larry Gude]

You don't...

Oh cut it out.

Ron Paul was on Glen Beck's program. Glen Beck himself has received nastygrams and death threats from Paul supporters. Glen handed Paul the perfect opportunity to show some maturity and leadership skills, and he blew it.

Now, I understand that you are a big Ron Paul fan, but please. I hope I never get so emotionally involved with some politician that I have to polish every turd they lay down.

...differentiate between a known public candidate, a racist, publicly endorsing someone and some person(s) who send anonymous threats? Please.

Also, I am not a big Ron Paul fan. I have stressed that his deference to the constitution, HIS DEFERENCE, not his interpretation, not HIS policies, not HIS ideas, not his white teeth or perfect hair or sexual preferences or marital history or things he did when he was 25 or characters he's played, but his deference to the rules and the processes that we are supposed to be following is the attraction.

And I have tried to make abundantly clear that I have concerns about the guy if dillweeds like Duke and the 9/11 conspiracy psychos support him.

Read: That concerns me. Far more than some anonymous threat.

 

[Larry Gude]

And for the fun of it...

Now, I understand that you are a big Ron Paul fan, but please. I hope I never get so emotionally involved with some politician that I have to polish every turd they lay down.

...I hope to never be so emotionally against a candidate because they didn't claim they oppose psychotics strongly enough. What next? Does he have to stress that he is in favor of childrens health?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Huckabee's speech was hatred.

It's like comparing Jeff Gordon to Jeffery Dahmer.

Huckabee's remarks were absolutely uncalledfor...

 

[vraiblonde]

I don't think I put words in your mouth, Vrai.

Uh, yes you did, dumbass:

Look, I don't like homosexuality anymore than you do.

 

[Larry Gude]

Andy...

Uh, yes you did, dumbass:

...you're wrong on that one. Big time.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Uh, yes you did, dumbass:

I don't.

If you don't care, well, I still like it no more than you do. :shrug:

I'm totally opposed to the idea of homosexuality, but it doesn't affect me so why bother?

 

[vraiblonde]

...I hope to never be so emotionally against a candidate because they didn't claim they oppose psychotics strongly enough. What next? Does he have to stress that he is in favor of childrens health?

By not speaking out against his supporters' ugliness, he silently condoned it and encouraged it. Just the same way Hillary has done with her half-assed apologies. Just the same way Bill Clinton condoned the nastiness of his supporters, including one James Carville and another Paul Begala.

Now you may be all for a candidate who encourages death threats against media personalities who speak against him, but I am not.

And if you don't understand that, it's because you're closing your eyes and trying HARD not to understand it.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

By not speaking out against his supporters' ugliness, he silently condoned it and encouraged it. Just the same way Hillary has done with her half-assed apologies. Just the same way Bill Clinton condoned the nastiness of his supporters, including one James Carville and another Paul Begala.

Now you may be all for a candidate who encourages death threats against media personalities who speak against him, but I am not.

And if you don't understand that, it's because you're closing your eyes and trying HARD not to understand it.

He's not encouraging it.

Hillary Clinton's a frontrunner. Ron Paul is not, he needs all the votes he can get.

 

[2ndAmendment]

If it came down to Huckabee v. Hillary, would you vote for him?

Oh, by him, I am referring to Huckabee (not Hillary)

No.

 

[Toxick]

If it came down to Huckabee v. Hillary, would you vote for him?

If it came down to that, I would write-in Berke Breathed.

 

[2ndAmendment]

...and it is not beyond you. One's view of a barely edible blop of seafood is hardly of a kind with the noxious views of David Duke and any other supremacist and/or separatist. We are ONE people, at least that is the goal and that is codified in our founding documents; we are all created equal.

No one is required to like or love or live with a criminal. That is judging on the content of ones character. To judge one by their color or creed, to not only disagree, which is fine and healthy in a free society, but to see ones self as inherently above others, regardless of character, and not to be bothered with 'lesser' others is as unconstitutional and un-American as it gets.

Paul doesn't need to answer for uni eaters no matter how vile that may be. Nor does he have to answer to nameless, faceless letter writers and haters drifting in cyber space.

He does have to answer for public figures and positions such as David Duke when they claim to be supporters whether he claims them or not.

Come on Larry. The uni example was to illustrate just how badly people jump to erroneous conclusions, non sequitur, does not follow.

Just because David Duke believes in Constitutional limits and guarantees and supports Ron Paul because Ron Paul believes in Constitutional limits and guarantees does not mean that Ron Paul believes in supremacist and/or separatist ideals because David Duke does.

Just because people have certain common areas of interest or belief does not mean they share all areas of interest or belief.

Has Ron Paul ever said or done anything to indicate that he is a supremest? No. Quite to the contrary, everything I read that he has stated indicates that he truly believes in the Constitution and in the equality it guarantees to all citizens of the United States.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

If it came down to that, I would write-in Berke Breathed.

I'm voting for ... MYSELF!

My platform:

• Stay the course in Iraq, as we are now seeing the consequences of withdrawl.
• Overhaul social security so it can stay around in 60 years.
• Overhaul welfare.
• I promise to veto any and every pork filled spending bill that crosses my desk.
• No tax increases
• Get our nation out of debt.

There you go, I'm your candidate.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I'm voting for ... MYSELF!

My platform:

• Stay the course in Iraq, as we are now seeing the consequences of withdrawl.
• Overhaul social security so it can stay around in 60 years.
• Do away with welfare.
• I promise to veto any and every pork filled spending bill that crosses my desk.
• No tax increases
• Get our nation out of debt.

There you go, I'm your candidate.

:fixed:

 

[Larry Gude]

That isn't even worthy...

: Now you may be all for a candidate who encourages death threats against media personalities who speak against him, but I am not.

...of your worst day when you just can't think of anything relevant or insightful to say no matter how hard you try.

I want to hear you say that there is very likely nasty letters and threats sent in the name of all the candidates, just like Paul's, all the time.

Or, I want to hear you say that ONLY Paul supporters send hate filled and threatening letters, or at least most of them come from Paul supporters.

Then, I'd like your thoughts on why only Paul has been asked about what he thinks about psychos if he isn't the only one.

Of course, if he is the only one with crazy supporters who send ugly, threatening letters and e mails, there'd be no reason to ask anyone else.

I suppose that's possible.

 

[Larry Gude]

The only people who don't know...

Come on Larry. The uni example was to illustrate just how badly people jump to erroneous conclusions, non sequitur, does not follow.

Just because David Duke believes in Constitutional limits and guarantees and supports Ron Paul because Ron Paul believes in Constitutional limits and guarantees does not mean that Ron Paul believes in supremacist and/or separatist ideals because David Duke does.

Just because people have certain common areas of interest or belief does not mean they share all areas of interest or belief.

Has Ron Paul ever said or done anything to indicate that he is a supremest? No. Quite to the contrary, everything I read that he has stated indicates that he truly believes in the Constitution and in the equality it guarantees to all citizens of the United States.

...what non-sequitur means, especially in this day and age, are the ones who don't care.

The one thing Ron Paul has done to indict he has a race issue is not publicly and clearly saying he disagrees with Duke.

If you were running for office and appealing to evangelicals and I, a known agnostic and supporter of gay marriage, came out and said 'I support 2a because he defers to the constitution' how much explaining do you think you might want to do to your audience?

 

[vraiblonde]

I want to hear you say that there is very likely nasty letters and threats sent in the name of all the candidates, just like Paul's, all the time.

I'm sure there are. And when the candidate is asked about it, I would hope they would admonish such behavior in their supporters.

Then, I'd like your thoughts on why only Paul has been asked about what he thinks about psychos if he isn't the only one.

One more time, so please pay attention:

Glen Beck himself received threats from Paul supporters. Glen Beck then interviewed Paul. It seems reasonable to me that Beck would ask Paul what he thought about this.

If Glen Beck had received threats from Hillary Clinton supporters, and then interviewed Hillary Clinton, I'm sure he'd have asked her about it as well.

 

[Larry Gude]

Did you see...

By not speaking out against his supporters' ugliness, he silently condoned it and encouraged it. Just the same way Hillary has done with her half-assed apologies. Just the same way Bill Clinton condoned the nastiness of his supporters, including one James Carville and another Paul Begala.

Now you may be all for a candidate who encourages death threats against media personalities who speak against him, but I am not.

And if you don't understand that, it's because you're closing your eyes and trying HARD not to understand it.

...the part of the interview? Paul acted like Glenn asked him if he was for or against kiddie porn. It was a 'wtf?' moment. There are some stupid questions out there.

"Hi, I'm Ron Paul and I approved this message. You know, sometimes someone might send a note to Glenn Beck that says "I hate you Glenn and wish you and your family were all dead because you don't support Ron Paul enough." Well, my fellow Americans, I am here to tell you, unequivocally, I do not support these type correspondences. I think they are not nice and send the wrong message. Further, I would like it known that I didn't write these letters nor did anyone I know nor did I or we help cause these things to be written and I would just like to reach out to my supporters and say "Please be nice." Oh yeah, I'd also like to say I support children's health and I am in favor of clean drinking water. Totally. And breathable air, too. And I like Mother Theresa. And apple pie. Thank you. Good night and God, whomever or whatever that may be to you, bless you."

 

[Larry Gude]

When?

I'm sure there are. And when the candidate is asked about it, I would hope they would admonish such behavior in their supporters.

...when you say? Can you remember the last time ANY candidate was actually asked if they support death threats?

"Senator Clinton, where do you stand on sticking kittens in blenders? It's an honest question, Senator. The American people deserve and demand an honest answer!"




"I'm sorry, Glenn, we're getting some polling data on that right now...just a minute..."

 

[Larry Gude]

A ha!

If Glen Beck had received threats from Hillary Clinton supporters, and then interviewed Hillary Clinton, I'm sure he'd have asked her about it as well.

...so it is your position that the only death threats Glenn Beck has gotten, so far, are from Ron Paul supporters, eh?

BTW, Hillary has refused, for years, to be interviewed by Beck. And I will bet you Beck has gotten plenty of nasty grams from Hillary supports for the pillorying he gives her on a regular basis on his shows.


Pillory? Hillary?

Coincidence? I think not.