Xaquin44
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yes it is vague (like I said) but it was also correct.
Rural town may block Muslim site
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yes it is vague (like I said) but it was also correct.
Mikeinsmd
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Wow!!! That was good!!! What else am I? What do I look like??? What do you know about me? Fill me in with all this info you and Middy have.
Starman3000m
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Yes, He fulfilled the accomplishment of living a sinless life and being the Messiah who would become the Saviour of mankind - just that Orthodox leaders did not believe Him.
Starman3000m
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Will wait for you to respond with examples.
I believe my Iranian friends would describe your communication as quite kos sher .
Xaquin44
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"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
I think that he (Jesus) essentially made void many laws set down in the Old Testament by living by them.
though, that in and of itself begs many questions like 'If God made the laws in the first place, then why did he change them?'
Starman3000m
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I believe my Iranian friends would describe your communication as quite kos sher .
You mean like "wiping Israel off the map?" And, awaiting the appearance of al-Mahdi, the Islamic saviour?
You obviously don't know how bad Ahmedinejad is polling back home. Or any local Iranian expats for that matter. We have the 2nd largest population outside of Iran in the DC area.
And he doesn't have final say on matters in their government.
Khameni does, and both he and his buddy Hashemi don't like how his comments have lightened their wallets.
Starman3000m
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Man had a way of introducing his own rules and regulations and mixing them in with God's Words.
Jesus specifically said "Moses gave you the law"... Judaism has added to the original Ten Commandments and comprised 613 Judaic Laws to live by and laws for the Gentiles, (Noahide Laws) that make Gentiles acceptable to Jews.
Jesus refined God's Law down to a summary of Two (2) Laws; Love God with all your heart and soul and Love your neighbor as yourself.
It's just that mankind has not been able to comply by those two laws and yet keeps adding more rules, regulations and traditions that make it harder to follow. That is why Jesus chided the religious leaders for adding more of a burden and yoke upon the people.
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Xaquin44
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ah, I figured it applied to all laws in the Old Testament and not just the 10 Commandments.
heh.
love your neighbor as yourself unless he's a muslim apparently =(
Which is precisly what Sharia law is. It is neither interpreted nor applied in the same manner in every Muslim country. Alot of old tribal law has snuck in and been mistakenly called Islam. It is not actually Islam.
Mikeinsmd
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Be careful using facts with her. She confuses easily.
Starman3000m
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As long as Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah's believe it is their Al'lah ordained duty to exterminate the Jews and prepare this world for al-mahdi we will have chaos in the Middle East and continued squabbles between the Shi'a and Sunni factions. Those Iranians who left did so because they do not want to live under the oppressive rule that Islam imposes on Muslims within their country. They may have embraced Western ideologies, thus, are seen as apostates and it would be dangerous for them to have remained in Iran.
Starman3000m
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Jesus said that by abiding by the Two Laws, as stated, it would be the completion and fulfillment of the Laws and the Prophets.
Xaquin44 said:
Muslims are people who need to be loved too. It's just that they are taught not to love in return because, in their teaching, the Jews and Christians are subservient to Muslims and all non-Muslims are to be killed if they do not embrace Islam and accept Muhammad as the last and final prophet.
Hessian
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Uh Oh...Veggie is in trouble!
"Which is precisly what Sharia law is. It is neither interpreted nor applied in the same manner in every Muslim country. Alot of old tribal law has snuck in and been mistakenly called Islam. It is not actually Islam."
How dare you, a women no less, insinuate that Islam has been corrupted. If only your husband beat you more. (Allah be praised).
"Which is precisly what Sharia law is. It is neither interpreted nor applied in the same manner in every Muslim country. Alot of old tribal law has snuck in and been mistakenly called Islam. It is not actually Islam."
How dare you, a women no less, insinuate that Islam has been corrupted. If only your husband beat you more. (Allah be praised).
"Which is precisly what Sharia law is. It is neither interpreted nor applied in the same manner in every Muslim country. Alot of old tribal law has snuck in and been mistakenly called Islam. It is not actually Islam."
How dare you, a women no less, insinuate that Islam has been corrupted. If only your husband beat you more. (Allah be praised).
Wow...I am dazzled by your unique insights.
You should like, totally go work at the State Department dude.
Midnightrider
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are you saying that parts of the bible are MAN's WORDS?
startard said:
and all muslims ARE NOT THE SAME AND MAY NOT BE OUT TO KILL US ALL....
:tellmeitaintso:
Starman3000m
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There are some religious rules, regulations and traditions that were written by zealous religious leaders and incorporated to be taught as "supplements to the Bible" and claimed to be coming from God but in fact were not given by God at all.
Regarding the Holy Bible: Technically, the Prophets and Patriarchs in the Holy Bible were devout holy men who heard God's Divine Voice speak audibly to them and who were also inspired by the Spirit of God and directed in what to write and communicate in regard to God's message to the people.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2 Peter 1:21)
Now, let's take the accounts of Psalms and Proverbs. Here we have the written thoughts and prayers of two men, King David and King Solomon who were communicating their words to God, yet the teachings from them can be applied by any other person who wishes to communicate with God. In other words, one can read verses from the Holy Bible that relate to their daily walk with God and use them as a reminder that God is our source of strength.
For example, the 23rd Psalm is a common scripture of King David's comments yet those who trust in God can apply the same understanding of those comments to their position and relationship with God.
Psalm 23
1: The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2: He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3: He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4: Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5: Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6: Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
Conclusion: So, in answer your question, yes, the Bible contains a combination of God's words and man's words - but the qualifier is that the men who wrote the scripture contained in the Holy Bible were "holy men" inspired by the Spirit of God of which things to write as cited earlier and as noted in the following words of Jesus:
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (John 14:26)
Midnightrider said:
Agreed that not all Muslims are "out to kill us all" because they are the ones who are Muslim by birth and in name only but are not truly dedicated to following the tenets of the complete Qur'an and teachings of Muhammad which obligate all Muslims to partake of jihad or support jihad in one form or another.
Similarly, a Muslim who devoutly adheres to the entire teachings in the Qur'an and believes that the Islamic prophet, Muhammad is a true prophet of God may also not seek to kill us but they will certainly stand back and watch as other Muslims carry out their obligatory Jihad to exterminate Jews, Christians and all other non-Muslims.
The stated goal of an Islamic representative is not to assimilate in America but to overtake America:
Omar Ahmad
5/16/2004
Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6473
So, when we see Muslim enclaves sprouting up throughout the country and even in small remote rural areas, we should be aware that Islam is a social/political/theological ideology that is anti-Semite; anti-Christian; anti-Atheism; and is not an ideology that is compatible with the values and freedoms set for by the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
However, this is America and the statue of Liberty still waves the lantern that welcomes all into this land - even those who plan to destroy this country and its way of life!
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ItalianScallion
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Good Lord Starman, I hope those I've been arguing with about this don't see this. They might find out that they are wrong and change their ways of thinking. I really took on some flak in the "Rural town may block muslim site" posting. I wonder how these So MD people will look with towels on their heads???
Starman3000m
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Good Lord Starman, I hope those I've been arguing with about this don't see this. They might find out that they are wrong and change their ways of thinking. I really took on some flak in the "Rural town may block muslim site" posting. I wonder how these So MD people will look with towels on their heads???
Yes, I have read the comments from those who criticized your posts. At least those individuals cannot say that no one warned them about the Islamic agenda in America.
And Now, For more about the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)
CAIR Board Member, Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing, has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble unless it accepts Islam.
*Anti-CAIR* Defending America from The Council on American-Islamic Relations
Keep up the good work ItalianScallion. Although it seems futile to keep warning others, don't quit. America is entering an increase of perilous times and many still cannot see (nor want to see) what's coming ahead.
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