Personally I think this should apply to everyone and not just felons, so many people vote with no idea who or what they're voting for.
Should felons get to vote?
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Rommey
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There's already too many road blocks in today's society for ex-convicts. It seems unreasonable to add one more road block to having a ex-convict integrate back into society. I fail to see the logic in continuing punishment after someone has completed their sentence.
I also don't see how "depends on their crime" factors into the question.
I also don't see how "depends on their crime" factors into the question.
Slim, but I do have a relative that would qualify. His decisions have improved to where I think he could handle the responsibility. But he doesn't have to convince me now does he?
Yooper
Up. Identified. Lase. Fire. On the way.
Bumping an older thread.
I'm coming over a bit to your side, Ken.
ACB got me to thinking:
Justice Barrett’s Vote Already Looking To Be Decisive In First Big Gun Rights Case In Years
Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett could deliver a decisive vote in case regarding gun ownership for non-violent felons if the case ends up in the court.
emphasis mine
She makes, I think, an excellent point. So while my overall opposition to felons voting/having guns/etc. still stands, I can see where there could be some wiggle room.
FWIW
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Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong in my thinking. It seems to me that felons, ex-felons, what-have-you, can influence elections in ways other than voting. They can blog, twitter, facebook, youtube, etc. whatever they think is relevant and why it should be this way or that way. Look how many "stars" have been created by just that method. Also, they can join political organizations and peddle their influence in that manner. So I don't think it matters if they get their voting privileges restored.
So you say a child rapist can serve their full sentence, then regain their right to be elementary school teachers?
If that is what you think I said. I can't help you comprehend my actual words. Which are, if a crime is so egregious that rights will continue to be held after the punishment has been completed then those that commit those crimes should never be set free upon society again.. Otherwise, once a person has served their determined punishment and are returned to society they then get all of their rights returned.
Now, to your specific scenario; I am quite certain that an elementary school determining that a candidate for employment has such a past that they would be under no obligation to actually employ such a candidate, right? There is no enumerated right to any job that anyone wants.
Your actual words:
"Absolutely. Once they have served their sentence and are back in society they should get all of their rights back, to include voting."
What part of your words "they should get all their rights back, to include voting" did I misunderstand? Or are you just back pedaling?
black dog
Free America
As difficult as it feels with some crimes, yes. All or our God Given Rights should be restored when the sentence has been fullfilled...
Maybe we should reinstate the death penalty for more felonies....
Is working as an elementary school teacher (or at any job) a right? The part that you seem to not understand is what a right is.
PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
That sounds expensive for society.
glhs837
Power with Control
If you prevent them from working any job, haven't you infringed on their rights?
Employment isn't a right.
glhs837
Power with Control
No but discrimination in employment is illegal, correct? Believe me I'm not saying a child molester who served his time should ever be allowed to be a teacher I'm just following the logic. For me the only thing child molester should be allowed to be is dead
Yes, for certain reasons, specifically if such discrimination is based on race, gender, religion, national origin, physical or mental disability, age, sexual orientation, and gender identity by employers. Notice that there is nothing illegal about discriminating for one's status as a felon.
glhs837
Power with Control
Thats sorta the point, for some felonies, maybe there should be something in there.... Or not, and we execute or lock up forever some felons....
As they should be, if the crime is of such an egregious nature then rid them from society. But if it is determined that they have served the complete penalty for their crime/s and are returned to society, return them whole.