Pete
Repete
Your teacher should be punched in the neck for not teachng you what the shift key is for.
St. Mary's teachers want to "work to rule"
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Your teacher should be punched in the neck for not teachng you what the shift key is for.
ftcret
New Member
Probably need *shift* differential to teach that...
Pete
Repete
The biggest challenge that a teacher probably faces is the values a child brings into the classroom from their home environment/parents and how much attention the parent's pay to their kids education.
Stop making sense you moron. It causes a shift in earths axis.
awpitt
Main Streeter
I said the contract was between the teachers' association and the BOE. You backed up my statement by posting a link to the teachers' association Website. What's your point?
awpitt
Main Streeter
Actually, the teachers' association and the BOE wrote the contract, not the county govt.
Semantics. Employee association and union are technically and legally the same. They negotiate contracts with employers and protect workers rights, ability to strike has nothing to do with it.
I posted this with your "quote"
Go back and read your own post and you should get my "point".
awpitt
Main Streeter
With regard to collective bargining, they are the same. With regards to strike actions, they are not legally the same. MD allows teachers associations for the purpose of collective bargining but they cannot legally strike. The most they can do is a work-to-rule action. My Mom taught in Martinsburg, WV where they have actual teachers unions who have actually gone on strike and clsoed the schools.
awpitt
Main Streeter
You said it was a union. I said it was an assiciation. You posted a link to the association's Website which backed up my statement. I did call it the teachers' association but it's name is the Education Association so I stand corrected on that point.
Chasey_Lane
Salt Life
The biggest challenge that a teacher probably faces is the values a child brings into the classroom from their home environment/parents and how much attention the parent's pay to their kids education.
That has nothing to do with whether or not an association or union can strike. Maryland, by law, bars any state employee from striking. Next you'll tell me that AFSCME isn't a union in Maryland because they can't strike.
seasonedactor
New Member
This kind of shallow response is exactly why the public needs to be educated on what teachers actually do. I defy anyone who thinks teachers "are off more than they work" to spend ONE day in a classroom and be responsible for 25 kids for 45 minutes. It is not an easy job. To blithely say "they should just find another job" is an indication of your lack of understanding of what teachers actually do.
awpitt
Main Streeter
Good point. They're a union. Part of The AFL-CIO.
formerp3sailor
New Member
Union/Association Right/Wrong
Interesting arguments but I wonder what the net result of being declared winner will be. The point behind this Work To Rule appears to be to coerce the BOCC to find more funding for educational programs.
The District and the County appeared to have saved the 150 positions that were on the chopping block by sensibly re-aligning positions within the district and using attrition to save money rather than cutting Paraeducator positions.
What is not being discussed is there is still no more money to meet the demands of the teachers and the ___________________ to which they pay their dues. The county simply does not have the funding without taking it from some other services.
I volunteer and substitute in the schools in this district. I have also been a fulltime 5th grade educator. So I have firsthand knowledge of the problems these teachers face daily. Yes, the students are out of control. Yes, they often have nothing resembling home training or manners. Yes, you have a contract that states your responsibilities.
Here's my perspective. You have a college education. You are, by virtue of being a classroom instructor, used to working autonomously. If you tire of doing the job you applied for, get a new one. Just remember, tenure is not offered in the world outside the classroom. I hated dealing with my union and the parents. I left. I regret leaving the students but if I was miserable at my job, I questioned my effectiveness. If the paycheck is the only thing keeping you in the classroom, maybe it's time you questioned your reason for being there.
Interesting arguments but I wonder what the net result of being declared winner will be. The point behind this Work To Rule appears to be to coerce the BOCC to find more funding for educational programs.
The District and the County appeared to have saved the 150 positions that were on the chopping block by sensibly re-aligning positions within the district and using attrition to save money rather than cutting Paraeducator positions.
What is not being discussed is there is still no more money to meet the demands of the teachers and the ___________________ to which they pay their dues. The county simply does not have the funding without taking it from some other services.
I volunteer and substitute in the schools in this district. I have also been a fulltime 5th grade educator. So I have firsthand knowledge of the problems these teachers face daily. Yes, the students are out of control. Yes, they often have nothing resembling home training or manners. Yes, you have a contract that states your responsibilities.
Here's my perspective. You have a college education. You are, by virtue of being a classroom instructor, used to working autonomously. If you tire of doing the job you applied for, get a new one. Just remember, tenure is not offered in the world outside the classroom. I hated dealing with my union and the parents. I left. I regret leaving the students but if I was miserable at my job, I questioned my effectiveness. If the paycheck is the only thing keeping you in the classroom, maybe it's time you questioned your reason for being there.
laynpipe
New Member
we appreciate your perspective and respect your comments. however, in this case, these individuals are not tired of their jobs. they are being layed off. big difference. these folks want to work, want to educate, want to make a difference in the lives of children that deserve the chance to have good teachers and a good education.
Bean Machine
Member
Evidently you didn't take the hint about the SHIFT key.
bohman
Well-Known Member
Don't look now, but your ignorance is showing.
laynpipe
New Member
i guess you think im going to change the way i type because some drones on a forum dont like it ?? maybe you should take a hint and bite one.
or maybe you could SHIFT your lips enough to kiss my ARSE.
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Bean Machine
Member
i guess you think im going to change the way i type because some drones on a forum dont like it ?? maybe you should take a hint and bite one.
or maybe you could SHIFT your lips enough to kiss my ARSE.
I'm feelin a lot of love from you...
Is this how you normally respond (you're quite touchy aren't you)? And you want people to think your opinion matters?
If you wanna kiss and make up that's fine, but I'm NOT gonna kiss any other part of your anatomy.
