Steelers @ Ravens.....

Axl

New Member
NBC just showed a clip of John Harbaugh saying that the side judge confirmed to him that the ball did have to cross the plane of the goal line.

I'm not suprised the head coach of the ravens said that. Haha!
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
This is from a Steelers website. NFL rule history.

It is necessary to have the ball touch the pylon or break the plane above the pylon to count as a touchdown. Previously, a player just had to have some portion of his body over the goal line or pylon to count a touchdown.

This rule was changed in 2007. So, either the judge saw the ball break the plane or he forgot about the 2007 rule change.

Steelers Fever - History of NFL Rules
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
I think the ball crossed the plane as the WR caught it. But maybe not after having 2 feet down. What does that mean?
No touchdown. You must be down.

Say someone leaped in the air to catch a ball just inside the end zone. He catches the ball in mid-air and is hit hard and driven out by the defender while never touching the ground until he is out of the end zone. That's the same thing.
 

Axl

New Member
No touchdown. You must be down.

Say someone leaped in the air to catch a ball just inside the end zone. He catches the ball in mid-air and is hit hard and driven out by the defender while never touching the ground until he is out of the end zone. That's the same thing.
But in this case the pitsburgh WR caught the ball with two feet down. Or toe tapped it.
 
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toppick08

Guest
Close...but no cigar....:ohwell:

Looks like Maryland's team is still in the hunt.......:coffee:
 

Dukesdad

Well-Known Member
It means Baltimore was ROBBED :shrug:

The NFL is backing referee Walt Coleman's decision to overturn a call on the field and rule Santonio Holmes' catch a touchdown that gave the Steelers a 13-9 victory at Baltimore yesterday.

Coleman's officiating crew ruled that Holmes did not get into the end zone when he caught Ben Roethlisberger's pass from the Ravens' four with 43 seconds left. However, after viewing it on replay, Coleman overturned the call and signaled a touchdown.

"Walt Coleman determined via high-def video review that the receiver had possession and two feet down with the ball in the goal line, meaning it broke the plane,'' an NFL spokesman said via e-mail.

The spokesman said Mike Pereira, the NFL's vice president of officiating, backed the Coleman ruling after replay.

Coleman explained after the game that Holmes "had two feet down and completed the catch with control of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line."

By rule, his feet did not have to be down, however, when the ball crossed the goal line -- he had to be in possession of the ball when it broke the plane of the goal line and then, to complete the play, his feet had to touch the ground.

"When he gained control of the ball,'' Coleman said, "the ball was breaking the plane and then he fell into the field of play."
:pete:
 

Beta84

They're out to get us
Close...but no cigar....:ohwell:

Looks like Maryland's team is still in the hunt.......:coffee:

yeah...i think they hold the tiebreaker to the playoffs, but you've got 3 other 9-5 teams sitting with MUCH easier schedules. 1 loss and they're out. Next week isn't lookin so good either.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
The NFL is backing referee Walt Coleman's decision to overturn a call on the field and rule Santonio Holmes' catch a touchdown that gave the Steelers a 13-9 victory at Baltimore yesterday.

Coleman's officiating crew ruled that Holmes did not get into the end zone when he caught Ben Roethlisberger's pass from the Ravens' four with 43 seconds left. However, after viewing it on replay, Coleman overturned the call and signaled a touchdown.

"Walt Coleman determined via high-def video review that the receiver had possession and two feet down with the ball in the goal line, meaning it broke the plane,'' an NFL spokesman said via e-mail.

The spokesman said Mike Pereira, the NFL's vice president of officiating, backed the Coleman ruling after replay.

Coleman explained after the game that Holmes "had two feet down and completed the catch with control of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line."

By rule, his feet did not have to be down, however, when the ball crossed the goal line -- he had to be in possession of the ball when it broke the plane of the goal line and then, to complete the play, his feet had to touch the ground.

"When he gained control of the ball,'' Coleman said, "the ball was breaking the plane and then he fell into the field of play."
:pete:
Agree. It would be the same thing if a running back leaped over a pile and the ball crossed the plane but his feet never touch the goal-line.

Good call.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
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The NFL is backing referee Walt Coleman's decision to overturn a call on the field and rule Santonio Holmes' catch a touchdown that gave the Steelers a 13-9 victory at Baltimore yesterday.

Coleman's officiating crew ruled that Holmes did not get into the end zone when he caught Ben Roethlisberger's pass from the Ravens' four with 43 seconds left. However, after viewing it on replay, Coleman overturned the call and signaled a touchdown.

"Walt Coleman determined via high-def video review that the receiver had possession and two feet down with the ball in the goal line, meaning it broke the plane,'' an NFL spokesman said via e-mail.

The spokesman said Mike Pereira, the NFL's vice president of officiating, backed the Coleman ruling after replay.

Coleman explained after the game that Holmes "had two feet down and completed the catch with control of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line."

By rule, his feet did not have to be down, however, when the ball crossed the goal line -- he had to be in possession of the ball when it broke the plane of the goal line and then, to complete the play, his feet had to touch the ground.

"When he gained control of the ball,'' Coleman said, "the ball was breaking the plane and then he fell into the field of play."
:pete:

...another BS bail out for a union!!! :lol:
 

homedepot20

Well-Known Member
The NFL is backing referee Walt Coleman's decision to overturn a call on the field and rule Santonio Holmes' catch a touchdown that gave the Steelers a 13-9 victory at Baltimore yesterday.

Coleman's officiating crew ruled that Holmes did not get into the end zone when he caught Ben Roethlisberger's pass from the Ravens' four with 43 seconds left. However, after viewing it on replay, Coleman overturned the call and signaled a touchdown.

"Walt Coleman determined via high-def video review that the receiver had possession and two feet down with the ball in the goal line, meaning it broke the plane,'' an NFL spokesman said via e-mail.

The spokesman said Mike Pereira, the NFL's vice president of officiating, backed the Coleman ruling after replay.

Coleman explained after the game that Holmes "had two feet down and completed the catch with control of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line."

By rule, his feet did not have to be down, however, when the ball crossed the goal line -- he had to be in possession of the ball when it broke the plane of the goal line and then, to complete the play, his feet had to touch the ground.

"When he gained control of the ball,'' Coleman said, "the ball was breaking the plane and then he fell into the field of play."
:pete:

ROBBED is ROBBED :bigwhoop:
 
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Beaver-Cleaver

Guest
Steelers fans,

MERRY CHRISTMAS! :cheers:

Sincerely,
The National Football League
 
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Beaver-Cleaver

Guest
Don't be bitter because the Jags suck!!!!!!!!!!!:buddies:

I'm not bitter :buddies: the Jags have sucked just about every year their franchise has existed.

I'm used to cheering for the sucky teams. :killingme
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
I'm not bitter :buddies: the Jags have sucked just about every year their franchise has existed.

I'm used to cheering for the sucky teams. :killingme
6 playoff appearances and 2 division championships with 7 winning seasons in 14 years does not equate to sucking every year they have existed.
 
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Beaver-Cleaver

Guest
6 playoff appearances and 2 division championships with 7 winning seasons in 14 years does not equate to sucking every year they have existed.

Even the Redskins have had winning seasons lately.

The Jaguars are a Playoff-capable team. Del Rio is a good coach. Garrard is a good quarterback. But they've imploded just like they did after Coughlin left.

Last year was a bright spot because the Jags were not doing well before then. Brunell washed up and went to Washington and the Jags put in Leftwich.

Brunell goes to Washington and takes them to the playoffs and to a winning season. The Jags suck, until 2005 when they make it to the playoffs. But they are knocked out early to New England. Pittsburgh wins the Super Bowl.

2006 - the Jags suck azz again. :boo:

Last season, Garrard becomes QB and Leftwhich leaves Jacksonville. Jags go to the playoffs and look like a contender. They beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh in the snow twice. They stumble against the dominant Patriots (again) and are knocked out as the division champs cruble against San Diego.

Then what happens this year? We get a ####ty offensive coordinator. Matt Jones becomes more interested in sniffing coke and talking #### than playing ball. We get a defensive coordinator who can't operate down to the battered Jags' D-Line. Just like 2006, a ####ty year.

The Jags are just like the Redskins. They take one good year and follow it up with a ####ty one.

But what's the difference heading in to offseason this time? Quarterback for one. There was doubt about Byron Leftwhich (who goes to Pittsburgh and all of a sudden becomes good again:confused:) and if he was better than the backup. Right now, there is NO DOUBT David Garrard is better than Cleo Lemon. And the Jags are confident with Garrard because Garrard is a bull.:yay:

Maurice Jones-Drew is the only other player worth keeping. Matt Jones needs to go to Dallas with the rest of the druggies and thugs. :boo: Joey Porter can DIAF. In fact, of all the ####ty Jaguars moments, Joey Porter missing that catch in Houston stands out the most, and his ass needs to go.
 
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