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Ehesef · Sep 20, 2006

Ehesef said:
DING DING DING

Or Z is a meamie.

nomoney · Sep 20, 2006

this is ghey - I'm going to go pee

Nickel · Sep 20, 2006

vraiblonde said:
But what do you think the scenario is? Is it still true stealing, or is it just a joke that got messed up?

Does Z have a history of similar behavior? :shrug:

BuddyLee · Sep 20, 2006

vraiblonde said:
Is it still true stealing, or is it just a joke that got messed up?

I think that depends on the relationship.

morganj614 · Sep 20, 2006

vraiblonde said:
But what do you think the scenario is? Is it still true stealing, or is it just a joke that got messed up?

Why lie if it was a joke? Why was "Z" forced to return the item if it was a joke?

RoseRed · Sep 20, 2006

vraiblonde said:
But what do you think the scenario is? Is it still true stealing, or is it just a joke that got messed up?

Stealing. Especially if lame ass excuse doesn't hold water.

CMC122 · Sep 20, 2006

vraiblonde said:
Okay, so we have stealing, and we have lying. So we can agree on common English terms for these acts.

About the stealing:

Let's say that Z took something out of A's purse without her knowledge, stuck it in her (Z's) pocket.

Is it possible that Z meant it as a joke? Thinking A would look in her purse and go, "Oh no! Where's my (fill in the blank)???" and Z would then pull it out of her pocket and go, "Ha!"

So that's the question - is it possible that Z took A's belonging as a joke?

Haven't you had a similiar situation before?

citysherry · Sep 20, 2006

vraiblonde said:
But what do you think the scenario is? Is it still true stealing, or is it just a joke that got messed up?

It's sounding like a joke that got messed up - and now "Z" has to face the consequences for her actions even if her actions were meant to be funny.

kwillia · Sep 20, 2006

vraiblonde said:
But what do you think the scenario is? Is it still true stealing, or is it just a joke that got messed up?

I already stated my view, but let me make it clearer. Z may have done it in "fun", but Z is also old enough to have known that it would be negatively received by A. Therefore, Z is bad and bad things should happen to Z.

PrepH4U · Sep 20, 2006

CMC122 said:
Haven't you had a similiar situation before?

Thats what I was thinking, if I remember she put it in her pocket and forgot about it.

CMC122 · Sep 20, 2006

PrepH4U said:
Thats what I was thinking, if I remember she put it in her pocket and forgot about it.

Yeah, I think it was with a cousin or something.....

rack'm · Sep 20, 2006

So, tell us A.........

you actually went to counseling to deal with the guilt from the beat down you gave Z, correct??

PrepH4U · Sep 20, 2006

CMC122 said:
Yeah, I think it was with a cousin or something.....

BS Gal · Sep 20, 2006

I think you should shoot her eye out.

Nanny Pam · Sep 20, 2006

BS Gal said:
I think you should shoot her eye out.

vraiblonde · Sep 20, 2006

morganj614 said:
Why lie if it was a joke?

Well, see, that's the problem. I'd have believed it was a joke BUT when asked about the missing item, Z didn't tell the truth. In fact, Z didn't tell the truth through several different stories.

Today (and in sessions past) I have been called "harsh" for suggesting that what Z did was "stealing". And also for calling the resulting stories "lies".

My next question is:

Based on what you know (that Z took A's belonging without A's knowledge or permission, then told a story that was different than what actually happened), do you think it is harsh to use the terms "stealing" and "lying" to describe Z's behavior?

CMC122 · Sep 20, 2006

It is what it is! I don't think it's harsh at all :yay:

vraiblonde · Sep 20, 2006

rack'm said:
you actually went to counseling to deal with the guilt from the beat down you gave Z, correct??

Not hardly :lol:

Ehesef · Sep 20, 2006

vraiblonde said:
Well, see, that's the problem. I'd have believed it was a joke BUT when asked about the missing item, Z didn't tell the truth. In fact, Z didn't tell the truth through several different stories.

Today (and in sessions past) I have been called "harsh" for suggesting that what Z did was "stealing". And also for calling the resulting stories "lies".

My next question is:

Based on what you know (that Z took A's belonging without A's knowledge or permission, then told a story that was different than what actually happened), do you think it is harsh to use the terms "stealing" and "lying" to describe Z's behavior?

No. It is completely warranted. If Z was joking, she wouldn't have lied about it. She's a thief and a liar.

Nanny Pam · Sep 20, 2006

vraiblonde said:
Well, see, that's the problem. I'd have believed it was a joke BUT when asked about the missing item, Z didn't tell the truth. In fact, Z didn't tell the truth through several different stories.

Today (and in sessions past) I have been called "harsh" for suggesting that what Z did was "stealing". And also for calling the resulting stories "lies".

My next question is:

Based on what you know (that Z took A's belonging without A's knowledge or permission, then told a story that was different than what actually happened), do you think it is harsh to use the terms "stealing" and "lying" to describe Z's behavior?

If the shoe fits.... :shrug:

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