Go G-Men
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Wanting gun control is not the same as wanting police with more power... It is however indicative of wanting more govenment control... (Big Government)...
Tasered, bitten by police dog-wrong guy
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Wanting gun control is not the same as wanting police with more power... It is however indicative of wanting more govenment control... (Big Government)...
Go G-Men
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As far as the government working for me and you... Yeah right... Not for a long time now... Our government works for whichever way the prevailing winds blow.. Just look at the debates on both sides lately..
Larry Gude
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You are...
...exhibiting a basic refusal to see who has the power and why with a disarmed citizenry. If you and I can't have guns, we are subjects. We are subject to criminals who have guns and we are subject to the state who has the cops who have guns.
Big government types NEED arms. How else they gonna get us to take off our Ipods?
...exhibiting a basic refusal to see who has the power and why with a disarmed citizenry. If you and I can't have guns, we are subjects. We are subject to criminals who have guns and we are subject to the state who has the cops who have guns.
Big government types NEED arms. How else they gonna get us to take off our Ipods?
Go G-Men
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...exhibiting a basic refusal to see who has the power and why with a disarmed citizenry. If you and I can't have guns, we are subjects. We are subject to criminals who have guns and we are subject to the state who has the cops who have guns.
Big government types NEED arms. How else they gonna get us to take off our Ipods?
Hey Larry... Nice try... You turned a corner and did not use your blinker...
Gun control was not my point... That would be a different debate and I would probably be on the same side as you.
Larry Gude
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Larry Gude
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The first...
...step towards regaining government of the people, by the people and for the people is at least agreeing on what it is SUPPOSED to be.
Would you at least agree with that?
...step towards regaining government of the people, by the people and for the people is at least agreeing on what it is SUPPOSED to be.
Would you at least agree with that?
Larry Gude
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Go G-Men
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I would agree... The constitution says so..
Go G-Men
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...tase me, bro!!!
Well if you insist.. Get your (zzzzzt) hands up..
Larry Gude
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Larry Gude
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...predictable is soo like a jazz player.
If he didn't have his little bug zapper maybe he would have thought about it a little more and maybe, just maybe this wouldn't have happened, this electrocuting and dog attack on an innocent citizen.
You seem convinced that this kid saw the officers giving commands, gesturing to him, saw the tazer come out, saw it pointed at him and saw the dog bearing it's teeth and still, STILL was like 'eff you'.
Yeah right.
I might be predictable, but my music isn't. You have to give me that.
You seem to be missing a key element in my argument. I'm not convinced of anything since there aren't enough facts for us to come to this conclusion. I gave you my "conclusion". I have no clue if it's factual. But things could have panned out that way.
I do believe we are seeing more about cops whipping out their tasers because 1) It gives the cops a sense of "non-lethal" (I know some cases haven't turned out that way) control of a suspect and 2) the media is reporting it. I'm just not prepared to believe that cops are running around with their hand at the ready to zap anyone they find. The VAST majority of the time (that the media doesn't even report) they (the cops) get it right. You seem only interested in exploiting when they get it wrong. I think that is unfair to those that are severely underpaid for protecting us.
PsyOps
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How can that be? I'm a police brutality cry baby liberal, remember?
No, just a police brutality cry baby.
Larry Gude
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godsbutterfly
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If the Police Officer was shouting commands and not getting any response wouldn't it have been appropriate to have the trained dog bring him down and hold him so the officer could then approach him without running the risk of being attacked? I'm not a police officer and don't claim to know procedure but wouldn't that have given them a chance to see the IPOD and realize why he wasn't paying attention?
PsyOps
Pixelated
Karma Coward Alert!
First of all, you post such a long reply in the Karma zone? Why don't you have the courage to just bring it out in the thread?
When the police are arresting someone on the streets there is no "innocent until proven guilty". That is for a court of law. The police have the responsibility to protect the public. By doing so, they serve us. That is how they serve us. If this kid had pulled a gun on the cops, it would have been within their authority, granted them by the state, to acted as judge, jury, and executioner on the spot. No “innocent until proven guilty”. Your analysis is wrong. It appears (and once again, none of us have enough facts) the kid did not cooperate with police orders. Once you decide not to obey police orders you DO become a subject of the state.
First of all, you post such a long reply in the Karma zone? Why don't you have the courage to just bring it out in the thread?
When the police are arresting someone on the streets there is no "innocent until proven guilty". That is for a court of law. The police have the responsibility to protect the public. By doing so, they serve us. That is how they serve us. If this kid had pulled a gun on the cops, it would have been within their authority, granted them by the state, to acted as judge, jury, and executioner on the spot. No “innocent until proven guilty”. Your analysis is wrong. It appears (and once again, none of us have enough facts) the kid did not cooperate with police orders. Once you decide not to obey police orders you DO become a subject of the state.
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tiny tim
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...predictable is soo like a jazz player.
If he didn't have his little bug zapper maybe he would have thought about it a little more and maybe, just maybe this wouldn't have happened, this electrocuting and dog attack on an innocent citizen.
You seem convinced that this kid saw the officers giving commands, gesturing to him, saw the tazer come out, saw it pointed at him and saw the dog bearing it's teeth and still, STILL was like 'eff you'.
Yeah right.
even though it was the wrong guy, chances are he probably deserved more than a good ol taze and a dog bite. he was probably black, but i didnt actualyl bother to read the link. he was prob like sh1t, SON! i ain do nuffin wrong i ain gon put my hands up! i iz too gud for you ima keep lizzenin at my hiphop funky stuff! then: WHAM BAM. Like i said he def deserved it.
Larry Gude
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That's...
...just wonderful.
Judge not on the content of character but on the color of ones skin, right?
...just wonderful.
Judge not on the content of character but on the color of ones skin, right?
Lugnut
I'm Rick James #####!
In your opinion, does a citizen EVER have the right to resist an officer or disobey an officers commands?