The Child Support injustice.

[Bay_Kat]

Jpc...

 

[Bronwyn]

Speaking of child support... Maryland sucks so bad!!!

My Ex hasn't paid a penny in over 6 months. He just bought a new house in Miami and has two rental propertys that he rents out in Virginia. He works too. He is flying to Maryland to attend a concert for our son.

I'm glad he's doing well but damn. Why does Maryland have such a hard time enforcing a court order?

 

[VoteJP]

The Contrarian.

Speaking of child support... Maryland sucks so bad!!!

My Ex hasn't paid a penny in over 6 months. He just bought a new house in Miami and has two rental properties that he rents out in Virginia. He works too. He is flying to Maryland to attend a concert for our son.

I'm glad he's doing well but damn. Why does Maryland have such a hard time enforcing a court order?

Some how I just do not see that as accurate or true.

I figure your saying it just to create a dishonest dispute.

 

[VoteJP]

Custody means legally stealing the children.

A choice is a choice. You choose between the choices, freely. The question is, are you willing to abide by the consequences of those choices. YOU, and many like you, choose to ignore the needs and wants of your own child for your own selfish needs and wants. It's really that simple.

You see it as that simple as that is your choice and not mine.

But when I am Governor then everybody will start seeing it more correctly.

Honoring the humanity of the person is fine. Honoring the dishonorable actions is a lie.

Honoring the person is the whole point, not the action, and I never ever support lies or lying.

And, I believe someone once told me that it is wrong to bear false witness of my neighbor. To teach them their "dad" was honorable would be far worse, socially and ethically. Honest representation.

It is "Honor thy parents", and not to make them honorable.

And the one that told us both to "not bear false witness" is the same one that told us to "Honor thy parents" and so surely we are able to do both at the same time.

I do not suggest liking. I suggest being honest. If a parent chooses to desert his/her children, denying those children the assumed benefits of that parent's time, love, physical, emotional and economic support, then it would be dishonest of the custodial parent to not provide that information to the children, and tech them that those actions are dishonorable.

That is based on your own distortion of calling it a free choice to base your claims on.

It certainly is not honest nor true to blame the separated parent while ignoring or leaving out the particulars like the marriage had failed and the hostile divorce and the laws that legally degrade the separated parent.

And to degrade the separated parent to their children is sinful in so many ways, even with your justifications for degrading their parent it is still a hateful wrong thing to do.

The real message for the children is whatever the separated parent tells the children as their truth because the custodial has no right to speak or teach in opposition to the other parent's wishes.

The law does give the custodial the power to insult and to degrade the separated parents because custody does mean legally stealing the children from those separated parents, but to do it is still sinful indeed.

 

[MMDad]

Some how I just do not see that as accurate or true.

I figure your saying it just to create a dishonest dispute.

You're calling her a liar? That's not very nice, Jimmy.

 

[hvp05]

You're calling her a liar? That's not very nice, Jimmy.

Talk about "degrading the parents" . He's done it many times, as he has to come up with some way to continue his beliefs. I'd like to learn his trick to be in so many places at once, and to know others' life stories better than the people involved, but he won't tell me how he does it.

 

[Bronwyn]

You're calling her a liar? That's not very nice, Jimmy.

I have him on iggy but.... Thank you.

 

[Bay_Kat]

I have him on iggy but.... Thank you.

Me too, but his stupidity still gets through.

 

[VoteJP]

Custody means legally stealing the children.

The real message for the children is whatever the separated parent tells the children as their truth because the custodial has no right to speak or teach in opposition to the other parent's wishes.

The law does give the custodial the power to insult and to degrade the separated parents because custody does mean legally stealing the children from those separated parents, but to do it is still sinful indeed.

After posting that then I thought about it and it needs to be expanded on.

Like if we go to some one's house (relative or not) and the parent tells the children dishonest stuff like about Santa Claus and flying reindeer and magical events, and we have no business telling their children that it is a pack of lies and we must not tell the children that their parents are liars and etc.

When the children are grown like over 21 then we can tell them the stories were not true and it is wrong to lie even to children, but then we are liable to get punched out or slapped or to make an enemy by telling children or adult children about the dishonesty of their parents.

Like the D.C. sniper Mr Muhammad (the only parent I figured T_p would see as worse than me) then he told his kids as he told the public and told the Court that he said he was innocent of the accusations and his own children have a right to know that. So the custodial and other people might tell his children that the law and the Courts did not believe their Dad but it would be inappropriate to tell his children that their father was a liar because that is violating the Institution of the parent and child relationship.

So any parent, be they the custodial or a separated parent, the parent has a right to teach their own children by their own beliefs and to violate that is to violate the child, link 1 and link 2 .

Each parent has their own parental rights and what God has joined let nobody put asunder, Mark 10:9.

 

[VoteJP]

Everybody gets saved on Judgment Day.

You're calling her a liar? That's not very nice, Jimmy.

I did try to be nice about it, but my real objective is to be more truthful than nice.

And many people preach stuff like "Santa Claus" and they see it as cute instead of a lie, so I do not call such persons as "liars" as they are more so just immature.

What the Woman said was so extremely untrue that there is not much else for me to do other then to call her on it.

If some one tells me there is a flying saucer on the roof with creatures from outer space walking around, then I will believe them and walk out to see the proof, but there is nothing to prove in her words and I say it would be weak of me to let it stand unchallenged.

I did it as nicely as I thought I could, and just because one is dishonest does not truly make them a "liar" in my perception as I have a much higher requirement than that.

 

[bcp]

I did try to be nice about it, but my real objective is to be more truthful than nice.

And many people preach stuff like "Santa Claus" and they see it as cute instead of a lie, so I do not call such persons as "liars" as they are more so just immature.

What the Woman said was so extremely untrue that there is not much else for me to do other then to call her on it.

If some one tells me there is a flying saucer on the roof with creatures from outer space walking around, then I will believe them and walk out to see the proof, but there is nothing to prove in her words and I say it would be weak of me to let it stand unchallenged.

I did it as nicely as I thought I could, and just because one is dishonest does not truly make them a "liar" in my perception as I have a much higher requirement than that.

The question that continues to come up in my mind is this.
You constantly give advice on the proper way to raise children, what you should and should not tell them. How you should deal with things like Santa, or the Easter Bunny etc...
What I have yet to pick up on, and I'm sure that I'm missing it somewhere so please entertain me with a repeat of this answer.

based on how you turned out, and based on how your own child has turned out, what is it that gives you confidence that your way of raising a child is in any way healthy to them being a productive and happy citizen when they reach the age to be expected to do so?

where did you gain this valuable information that obviously surpasses the techniques of the many parents here that are involved in their children's lives.


I suppose I am basically asking for a brief resume from you that would cover your child rearing expertise.

 

[VoteJP]

Custody means legally stealing the children.

Okay, here's what she said:So, since you know her story better than she does, how much has her ex paid in the last six months? Did he, or did he not buy a new house, and is it in Miami? How many rental properties does he actually have in Virginia? Does he actually work, too? Is he, or is he not, coming to MD for a concert?

If any of these claims are "extremely untrue", please provide the truth.

Some times like this you just go out into never-never land and not much I can do about it.

I already said what is what and what is not, and that is it.

There is nothing more to add, and nothing more to prove.

 

[VoteJP]

Custody means legally stealing the children.

The question that continues to come up in my mind is this.
You constantly give advice on the proper way to raise children, what you should and should not tell them. How you should deal with things like Santa, or the Easter Bunny etc...
What I have yet to pick up on, and I'm sure that I'm missing it somewhere so please entertain me with a repeat of this answer.

based on how you turned out, and based on how your own child has turned out, what is it that gives you confidence that your way of raising a child is in any way healthy to them being a productive and happy citizen when they reach the age to be expected to do so?

where did you gain this valuable information that obviously surpasses the techniques of the many parents here that are involved in their children's lives.

I suppose I am basically asking for a brief resume from you that would cover your child rearing expertise.

My confidence in my info is because I am basing my points on long established principles and doctrines.

Like I say "do not lie" or "do not bear false witness" so therefore lying to children is wrong and is sinful and it is harmful.

And like wise with me saying to "not steal" as in stealing Child Support, and we have worldwide established principles and doctrines as in "Thou shalt not steal" and so I can preach such things as that with full confidence that the info is correct and sound.

That is how I do it.

 

[VoteJP]

Custody means legally stealing the children.

Can you link me what her lie was? I didn't find where you'd defined what it was she was lying about.

I am done with that myself, but if you want to add some thing to the discussion then do feel free to answer the Woman your self.

You go give her some sympathy and regard for her plight since you believe her.

And why not tell her how the Child Support thieves really work, so then you can help her straighten out her problem since you believe her report.

And I would hope she or you would also note how her children already have everything they need to overflowing as that is a significant part of that equation whether it is a true story or NOT.

Honestly I say it would be enjoyable if you would step up to the plate here your self instead of playing the sidelines with me, because I am finished with that and it is over and done in my perspective.

 

[MMDad]

What the Woman said was so extremely untrue that there is not much else for me to do other then to call her on it.


I did it as nicely as I thought I could, and just because one is dishonest does not truly make them a "liar" in my perception as I have a much higher requirement than that.

What did she say that wasn't true?

 

[hvp05]

What did she say that wasn't true?

JPC, I think you'd better answer this. We all expect you to dodge and evade, but nonetheless, if you make a flat-out claim about another person you ought to support yourself, ignorant though you may be.

 

[VoteJP]

Custody means legally stealing the children.

JPC, I think you'd better answer this. We all expect you to dodge and evade, but nonetheless, if you make a flat-out claim about another person you ought to support yourself, ignorant though you may be.

There is nothing else to say.

It is only 4 or 5 lines in the entire posting counting her post in quote, so I am nobody's baby sitter here and if they can not understand the words then so be it.

She is satisfied and I am satisfied and I am not dodging or evading anything that has to do with me.

Deal with it.

 

[hvp05]

if they can not understand the words then so be it.

But you have said hardly anything. You called her "dishonest" and her claims "extremely untrue", yet you can show nothing towards how you know such things. I think you're scared to answer specifics because you know you will be trounced, so you keep everything vague and bail out before the heat gets too high.

She is satisfied

I guess we won't know that one way or the other because she has you on ignore and does not care to engage you. I think it is interesting how you speak for others when you complain about others doing the same for you.

 

[VoteJP]

The Contrarian.

But you have said hardly anything. You called her "dishonest" and her claims "extremely untrue", yet you can show nothing towards how you know such things. I think you're scared to answer specifics because you know you will be trounced, so you keep everything vague and bail out before the heat gets too high.

This reminds me of John McCain trying to get candidate Obama to discuss the Iraq "surge" and McCain went on and on about the "surge", the surge, the surge, while candidate Obama went on to win, to win, to win.

Politics is just so much fun.

I guess we won't know that one way or the other because she has you on ignore and does not care to engage you. I think it is interesting how you speak for others when you complain about others doing the same for you.

Well taking to you or others as a third-person is kind of creepy too.

The Woman is hiding already and I do not want her to freak out over this.

 

[VoteJP]

Custody means legally stealing the children.

Which words? Where did you say what she was lying about? You only said she was lying, we're asking what you're claiming she's lying about.

I did NOT say she was "lying" as that is how you mis-interpret my words and you are not being accurate.

And I went on in a later posting saying that just because some one says things that are not true then that does not make them into a lie or a liar in my perception, as I hold a higher standard than that.

Your words are mean and cruel, and that is wrong of you to project your slanders into my comments.