The Child Support injustice.

[This_person]

For people that believe in stealing as acceptable then it surely must seem profitable because they are aggressively stealing as much as they can.

You mean, like taking tax money to pay for welfare and disability and medicare/medicaid, social security, etc., etc., etc.?

My point is that it unjustly and severely damages the paying parent, and it is a degradation of the Custodial parent to live off of thievery, and it eventually alienates the children from both parents, and it undermines our social structures by destroying the family as a unit, and in reality the stolen loot gives nothing of need to the children as it is all a fraud under the concept of thievery.

How? If the parents were together, they would share that money and provide for the child. When the parents choose to not be together, how does continuing to share money to provide for the child hurt anyone?

 

[VoteJP]

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You mean, like taking tax money to pay for welfare and disability and medicare/medicaid, social security, etc., etc., etc.?

Those things apply to the entire population, and gov has a duty to provide those services, and those are not like stealing of Child Support.

The Child Support laws attack individual parents in oppressive ways and it is a totally difference situation then anything you listed.

How? If the parents were together, they would share that money and provide for the child. When the parents choose to not be together, how does continuing to share money to provide for the child hurt anyone?

That is great for anyone that wants to voluntarily share their resources for their own children and I highly agree with doing that.

But the gov laws interfering and stealing the parents' livelihood and alienating the children needs to be stopped.

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[This_person]

Those things apply to the entire population, and gov has a duty to provide those services, and those are not like stealing of Child Support.

Knowing that the Preamble is not legally binding, and that the "general welfare" clause is for the United States, not indivuduals, and that the "general" portion means "most everybody", and that the "welfare" means "general well-being" (not handout money/entitlements), what does disability have to do with the general population? How is money available only to those below a certain net worth available to the entire population.

The Child Support laws attack individual parents in oppressive ways and it is a totally difference situation then anything you listed.

How is it any more "attacking" than taxes?

That is great for anyone that wants to voluntarily share their resources for their own children and I highly agree with doing that.

But the gov laws interfering and stealing the parents' livelihood and alienating the children needs to be stopped.

How is this any different than taxes? Taxes are not equal for all people, but based on people's individual situations - in the case of child support, the situation is that the parent is responsible for providing to their child.

 

[hvp05]

That is great for anyone that wants to voluntarily share their resources for their own children and I highly agree with doing that.

But... think of all those unnecessary luxuries and extras! How can you support such a thing?

 

[bcp]

That is great for anyone that wants to voluntarily share their resources for their own children and I highly agree with doing that.

But the gov laws interfering and stealing the parents' livelihood and alienating the children needs to be stopped.

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do you highly agree with supporting your own children now after some revelation, or do you just highly agree with supporting your own children as long as its someone else's children being supported by someone else.

obviously, you did not support such radical ideas while your own child went without growing up.

 

[VoteJP]

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Knowing that the Preamble is not legally binding, and that the "general welfare" clause is for the United States, not indivuduals, and that the "general" portion means "most everybody", and that the "welfare" means "general well-being" (not handout money/entitlements), what does disability have to do with the general population? How is money available only to those below a certain net worth available to the entire population.How is it any more "attacking" than taxes?How is this any different than taxes? Taxes are not equal for all people, but based on people's individual situations - in the case of child support, the situation is that the parent is responsible for providing to their child.

The fact is that you can hide behind some claims about taxes to hide the Child Support thievery, but I do not care about equating the thieving Child Support to taxes as that is your cop-out and it means nothing to me.

If you want to live off of money stolen from your children's Mom and then call it as like taxes or as a loan or whatever deception you chose then that is no concern of mine.

Deal with it or do not deal with it but I am intending reform the thieving Child Support and not to ease your conscience.


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[CentralMD]

From The Sun forum, JP is now regarding his public as, “… you white folks”.


“It has been great fun for me to have been arguing the Civil War with you white folks on those other threads, and it was a new experience for me to take on such an issue is such aggressive ways.”

“They even deleted one of my comments to the "White Countess" and I am not use to being censored.”“I suspect that you white folks have been talking all kinds of racist and Civil War trash on this Forum for a long time without some one to challenge the junk, so I still probably have a hard fight ahead of me.”

“I hope you saw that I picked on your post in-particular just because I was trying to draw you out for the slaughter.”

JP for Governor of MD. - Page 50 - Baltimore Sun talk forum


I can’t wait to see the new photo once the race change takes place.

 

[This_person]

The fact is that you can hide behind some claims about taxes to hide the Child Support thievery, but I do not care about equating the thieving Child Support to taxes as that is your cop-out and it means nothing to me.

If you want to live off of money stolen from your children's Mom and then call it as like taxes or as a loan or whatever deception you chose then that is no concern of mine.

Deal with it or do not deal with it but I am intending reform the thieving Child Support and not to ease your conscience.

My conscience is unburdened, and I do not equate it to taxes, persojnally. I equate it to what it would be like for both parents if both parents are together, providing for their children. You see, unlike you, I understand that parents are responsible, equally, for the rearing of their children. I do not believe one parent should desert, to let the other parent and their offspring figure out how to get by alone.

Like you, my children are grown and my issue associated with child support is long since done and over with. My point in even lowering myself to discuss these things with you is for the one or two people reading you that don't know your idiotic ways, and may possibly be influenced by your irresponsible positions.

Equating it to taxes was done simply for your adled brain. You see money given by the NCP as if it were taken by force, because the government sets the amount. That is like taxes. You see it being given to someone else who, in your opinion, might possibly misuse it - like welfare, or food stamps, or WIC, or (closer to home to you) disability payments. From the lifestyle you appear to lead, you're living on the version of child support that effects all taxpayers. You feel you need taxpayer money to get by, when really your needs are very small, and you should get by with nothing. You have family, you have the ability to have your needs met and overflowing without taking any money from taxpayers - in just exactly the same way your child had everything he needed without money from you.

 

[This_person]

The fact is that you can hide behind some claims about taxes to hide the Child Support thievery, but I do not care about equating the thieving Child Support to taxes as that is your cop-out and it means nothing to me.

If you want to live off of money stolen from your children's Mom and then call it as like taxes or as a loan or whatever deception you chose then that is no concern of mine.

Deal with it or do not deal with it but I am intending reform the thieving Child Support and not to ease your conscience.


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I have to ask - why did you feel the need to shrink and make near invisible my words in this response, but you don't normally do that. Is it because you just can't fight truth and logic any more?

 

[hvp05]

You feel you need taxpayer money to get by, when really your needs are very small, and you should get by with nothing. You have family, you have the ability to have your needs met and overflowing without taking any money from taxpayers

That sets up a good question: why didn't you, Jimmy, seek help from churches, community organizations and family before asking the government to support you? Those are the resources you suggest poor parents go through for help, yet they do not seem good enough for you. Why not?

 

[VoteJP]

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That sets up a good question: why didn't you, Jimmy, seek help from churches, community organizations and family before asking the government to support you? Those are the resources you suggest poor parents go through for help, yet they do not seem good enough for you. Why not?

I did do that myself.

When I was last released from prison (2003) onto the streets of Leonardtown as homeless, destitute and physically injured, then it was my own Mom that took and paid for Dr. Moon who first filled out the documentation that I was disabled and unable to work. But I was still homeless after that as I then got foodstamps and put on a waiting list for housing, then I went to the Church food pantry and soup kitchen in Leonardtown and a Lady from the Catholic Church that volunteered there helped me to get into housing provided by the local Churches until I was able to get my own apartment through the section 8 program.

And for reference or to give credit - Dr. Moon performed two (2) operations on me (1995 & in 96) for my abdominal strain and Dr. Moon paid for it himself with some assistance from the Health Share program, and I could hardly walk and homeless before the operations so Dr. Moon is one of my big heros here, and so is that great Christian Catholic Lady from Leonardtown, because I was in deep and in big troubles at those times.

The Child Support attacks against me and my subsequent retaliations lasted from around 1994 through mid 2003 when relesed from MD prison.


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[VoteJP]

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You see money given by the NCP as if it were taken by force, because the government sets the amount. That is like taxes.

Actually, if the Child Support was done as like taxes are done then I would likely give up my own fight against the thieveing system.

That would not make it right but it would be a hundred mile improvement.

The law even says to take Child Support by percentage like taxes but the Courts refuse to comply and there is stands.

If it was collected and paid from a Parents paycheck like percentages as the taxes are then the Child Support payment would go up when the parent makes more and go down when the parent makes less.

That we could live with.


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[This_person]

Actually, if the Child Support was done as like taxes are done then I would likely give up my own fight against the thieveing system.

That would not make it right but it would be a hundred mile improvement.

The law even says to take Child Support by percentage like taxes but the Courts refuse to comply and there is stands.

If it was collected and paid from a Parents paycheck like percentages as the taxes are then the Child Support payment would go up when the parent makes more and go down when the parent makes less.

That we could live with.

As a general rule, that is not done primarily because of people like you; people who manipulate the system by, say, getting paid under the table or reducing their income, not working, etc., to avoid paying a fair portion towards their child's welfare.

Cheats, deadbeats, etc., broke what could have been a perfectly fine system if people were just honest and supported their children. They (those like you) are the ones that didn't pay, causing need for a law, and then suberted the system, causing need to amend the implementation of the law.

See, when people desert their children to let them figure it out for themselves, it causes those children hardship. Laws were created and modified to protect those children - your son, Jimmy - from those irresponsible people - you, Jimmy.

 

[Toxick]

JP for Governor of MD. - Page 50 - Baltimore Sun talk forum

Now that was some good readin'!

 

[VoteJP]

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As a general rule, that is not done primarily because of people like you;

Cheats, deadbeats, etc., broke what could have been a perfectly fine system if people

See, when people

What you really did there was acknowledge that the law is done wrong, and the system is broke.

You are justifying stealing and abusive gov and wrongly applied laws because you blame me and other parents but your excuses do not turn wrong into right.

If the Child Support was collected the way that taxes are collected then I accept that as a reasonable compromise, but you are like the other bigots in this world that do not want to fix things, so I must do it.

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[bcp]

What you really did there was acknowledge that the law is done wrong, and the system is broke.

You are justifying stealing and abusive gov and wrongly applied laws because you blame me and other parents but your excuses do not turn wrong into right.

If the Child Support was collected the way that taxes are collected then I accept that as a reasonable compromise, but you are like the other bigots in this world that do not want to fix things, so I must do it.

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If you really thought you wanted to fix things, you would have supported your own son instead of expecting the taxpayers to do it for you, but the reality in your life is that you have been, you are, and you will continue to be a piece of crap.

you have no credibility, not with the public, not with your own son.

go get another bottle of cheap whiskey and crawl back under your rock. with any luck your liver will give out before you can cause anymore harm or pain to others.

I honestly can not respect anything about you.

Trash all the way.

 

[This_person]

What you really did there was acknowledge that the law is done wrong, and the system is broke.

You are justifying stealing and abusive gov and wrongly applied laws because you blame me and other parents but your excuses do not turn wrong into right.

Actually, I did none of the above. I explained how people like you caused a need for laws to be created to protect children from people like you.

If the Child Support was collected the way that taxes are collected then I accept that as a reasonable compromise, but you are like the other bigots in this world that do not want to fix things, so I must do it.

I'll ask you the same thing I've asked you before, and you've been entirely unable to answer: How?

Do you really think that, in the one in a million shot you should be elected to any position, but in this case governor, that the governor has the authority to simply change the law? Even if all the stars aligned in your favor, every other candidate suddenly endorsed you and dropped out of the race, and all the voting machines were "fixed" to allow only you to be elected, and you suddenly were governor, what authority does the governor have to change "the system"?

 

[VoteJP]

J.P. Cusick, for Maryland Governor 2010

Actually, I did none of the above. I explained how people like you caused a need for laws to be created to protect children from people like you.

When you deny your own statements then that prevents me from proceeding, and I am sure you see such denials as strong and etc, but you need to stick to your guns or else the procedures break down.

That really is friendly advice, whether you accept that or not.

And I did see your explanation in the previous posting.

I've asked you before, and you've been entirely unable to answer: How?

I shall use the position of Governor to enact the improvements.

So "how" is I will do it by getting elected as Governor and that is how.

Do you really think that, ... the governor has the authority to simply change the law?

... , what authority does the governor have to change "the system"?

I do know that it will be a huge amount of work for me as Governor to change the laws and to improve the system, and surely I will face a lot of powerful resistance in doing this.

I do not pretend that it will be easy or dropped into my lap as Governor, but as Governor I believe that I will be able to make the improvements needed in due course and in due time, and a lot of effort on my part of the task.


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[This_person]

When you deny your own statements then that prevents me from proceeding, and I am sure you see such denials as strong and etc, but you need to stick to your guns or else the procedures break down.

That really is friendly advice, whether you accept that or not.

And I did see your explanation in the previous posting.

If you saw the explaination, then you knew it was not anything like what you characterized it to be. That means :shrug:

I shall use the position of Governor to enact the improvements.

So "how" is I will do it by getting elected as Governor and that is how.

How does the governor do it? Would you issue an executive order, countermanding the law? Would you negotiate with the state legislature? Would you simply order the departments which enforce the law to stop enforcing it?

What would be the method, once you're elected?

I do know that it will be a huge amount of work for me as Governor to change the laws and to improve the system, and surely I will face a lot of powerful resistance in doing this.

I do not pretend that it will be easy or dropped into my lap as Governor, but as Governor I believe that I will be able to make the improvements needed in due course and in due time, and a lot of effort on my part of the task.

What work? Specifically, what is it you, as governor, would do (after becoming governor)?

 

[bcp]

Specifically, what is it you, as governor, would do (after becoming governor)?

The question is, "What could he do"?
If his handicap is so serious that he cant find employment in the real world, and he is forced to live on taxpayer donations for his keep, then exactly what is it that he could suddenly be able to do that would qualify him to be an elected official?
I would think, if he had that much knowledge in running something like a state, and was able to do such a job despite his crippling handicap, then there has to be at least one company out there that would need someone of his ability.

personally, I think that his running for a state office such as governor, and his insistence that he could do the job should be a dis qualifier for any money he receives because of his handicap.