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itsbob
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UrbanPancake said:You really believe that??? Even after he "mislead you about WMD". You Republicans really are gullible!
I think it's funny that Chenny disagrees with his boss about the Federal Marriage Amendment. You know you would think that Republicans (With Newt's and Chenny's lesbian daughters and all) would have figured out by now that Gay persons don't choose to be that way, God makes them that way.
WMD's?? When are the demoncrats going to get over that? That was ONE item on a list of reasons to go to war in IRAQ,, Think the mass graves filled with women and children would have been reason enough.. but see the demoncrats have chose to ignore THOSE facts.. I mean what are a few thousand dead Iraqi women and children??
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Ken King said:
Hey, I'm also a registered Democrat. I used to live in DC and I voted for two Republicans when I lived up there. (Carol Schwartz and David Cantania for City Council) I break party lines to when the candidates are inline with my belief system.
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Pull it out, UrbanUrbanPancake said:You really believe that??? Even after he "mislead you about WMD". You Republicans really are gullible!
I think it's funny that Chenny disagrees with his boss about the Federal Marriage Amendment. You know you would think that Republicans (With Newt's and Chenny's lesbian daughters and all) would have figured out by now that Gay persons don't choose to be that way, God makes them that way.
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Well in regard to Iraq he is fixing the problem. The problem was a hedonistic tyrant bent on our destruction, the destruction of neighboring nations, the destruction of any local opponents, and continued material breech of UN resolutions. Additionally, Iraq harbored and assisted terrorists and after 9/11 that made them a mandatory target in the war on terror. And this is a change from the years of sitting back fat, dumb, and happy that led us to where we are now.UrbanPancake said:I'm just tired of "The Same". We need a change. Bush can't admit that things are going wrong. He thinks everything is ok, so he can't fix the problem if he doesn't think its broke. This reminds me of the time when his Dad was up for relection...his father didn't think there was anything wrong with his domestic policy and he got voted out of office. The first Bush was worried to much about Iraq. It must run in the family.
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itsbob said:
Since you bring up "mass graves with women and children" I guess that means we should go to war with Sudan right now, or even Burundi, why stop there lets take China. I mean afterall we are the World Police. Lets spend our hard earned tax dollars on all kinds of wars.
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Ken King said:
Yeah, I guess that's why for the last ten years he's been nothing but trouble. Staying in his own country, not building WMD, tormenting his own people... not even bothering us. Wow...he's terrible. I'm scarred....
Talking about Terrorist... We have them in our own country. Does that mean we should airstrike an American city because there are Terrorist there????? No you don't. So why should that happen on foreign soil?
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Get real. He has given Palestinian suicide bombers families $25,000 for doing their stuff, he has continually shot at coalition aircraft patrolling the no fly zones every chance he has had, he has invaded two countries over the years and could be expected to continue the same tactic if left to the way it was. He has also manipulated the Oil for Food program to try to re-establish his WMD program and has always had a desire to be nuclear capable.UrbanPancake said:
Yeah, I guess that's why for the last ten years he's been nothing but trouble. Staying in his own country, not building WMD, tormenting his own people... not even bothering us. Wow...he's terrible. I'm scarred....
Talking about Terrorist... We have them in our own country. Does that mean we should airstrike an American city because there are Terrorist there????? No you don't. So why should that happen on foreign soil?
What would it take for you to see that he was a threat to our security and needed dealing with? Another 9/11 only worse.
itsbob
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UrbanPancake said:Since you bring up "mass graves with women and children" I guess that means we should go to war with Sudan right now, or even Burundi, why stop there lets take China. I mean afterall we are the World Police. Lets spend our hard earned tax dollars on all kinds of wars.
Sure, who's life is more valued.. better yet let YOU decide.. if we can go to war and protect and save 10,000 people, you can't go EVERYWHERE at the same time.. where would you go?? Where would you wage war first?
ANY time I hear the word GENOCIDE I think that the UN should go in with a MASSIVE force and stop it.... and if the UN doesn't have the backbone, then we should.. who cares if it's in Africa, Iraq, Iran, China.. or anywhere else for that matter..
I think the best shot of the debate was when they were talking about PEL grants. bush claimed 1.? million more applied for the grants to go to school and Kerry responded with the fact that's because of the state the economy is in, that many more people are broke and now qualify for them.
Pretty well sums up the economic state this country has fallen into in the last four years.
Pretty well sums up the economic state this country has fallen into in the last four years.
Bush signed his form 180 to allow his military records to be seen by the public. Kerry still refuses to sign his form 180. Something to hide? I think so.UrbanPancake said:
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Sparx said:
The funny thing is.... your right.
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2ndAmendment said:
What's to hide? We know Kerry went to Veitnam. Where was Bush? That's right he had his Daddy pull his weight around! Ok I understand now.
That is a LIE. God never makes anyone sin. Sin is a choice.UrbanPancake said:
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2ndAmendment said:
Really? So I guess God called you up and told you that? Wow. You do know that the Bible wasn't faxed down here from Heaven right? It was written by many different Hebrews as a written history for the Jewish people. It's been edited and translated so many times how can you tell what the Bible really says????? Since your so smart and God talks to you then you must have the answer. News Flash buddy, not every body believes in God and to enforce your beliefs on someone else is wrong. It would be like a Muslim forcing you to follow Islam...
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2ndAmendment said:
Here is a mind boggling question for you. Is being straight a choice? If you did choose to be straight that means you have a choice in the matter, but if you didn't that means you were born like that. Do you really think that people would choose to be gay with people like you out there?????
And if the Congress raises the minimum wage to $7, we will have many, many more people below the poverty line. Raising the minimum wage never has and never will advance the low guy on the wage scale. It is an illusion for political purposes only. Only stupid people believe it helps. Prices always rise to consume multiple times the rise in the minimum wage and because of wage compression more people are earing the lowest wage. If you don't know what wage compression is you are not qualified to discuss this. But for the ignorant, wage compression is when the minimum wage is raised and those that are making above the minimum before the raise are now making the minimum. Example: Guy making $7.00 an hour and minimum wage is $5.15. Raise the minimum wage to $7.00 an hour. Now everyone that was making more than $5.15 and $7.00 or less are now making the minimum wage. The people that were making more than minimum wage are now reduced to the lowest wage level when they were above it.Sparx said:
Well, he didn't get an honorable discharge until the late 1990s or even as late as 2001. Could indicate that there is a real problem with his military record. He was still in the military when he met with the North Vietnamese in Paris. And he took their side. That is called aiding and abetting the enemy which is treason.UrbanPancake said: