The media is out of hand

rack'm

Jaded
Kerad said:
Can you believe CNN!?! Reporting on a British report. Outrageous!

Stupid freedom of the press! It's un-American!!!

If only we lived in a society where the only news we get is filtered through government censors. That would be great! Some kind of ministry...some agency that will ensure we only learn what the govenrment wants us to learn. A system where reporters would be jailed for reporting the truth...as opposed to the sanitized "truth", which is all we really need to know.

This whole "reporting of facts" really needs to end.


Friendly fire happens, it being reported isn't the issue, the fact of the video being shown on TV is tasteless.

It's also a fact that the general media is heavily slanted towards the liberal side of life.
 

PJay

Well-Known Member
Coventry17 said:
Our troops should not be there another hour and even one life lost there is too much. Just in case you think I'm some bleeding heart liberal with no vested interest, I have done two deployments there and my nephew is about to go back for his second.

Many thanks to you and your nephew.

Does your nephew, brothers, sisters in Iraq share your opinion?
 

Kerad

New Member
rack'm said:
Friendly fire happens, it being reported isn't the issue, the fact of the video being shown on TV is tasteless.

It's also a fact that the general media is heavily slanted towards the liberal side of life.

Who do you think released the video?
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
Kerad said:
Who do you think released the video?

I think it was somebody in the MOD. That's what pizzes me off. People who release classified documents to the press. I can't blame the press for running with what they are given.
 

kjosxboyfriend

New Member
The liberal side of life...

When you refer to the liberal side of life do you mean the side that wants peace and enjoys living their OWN life without government interference. The side that doens't want its country's laws based on what Jesus would do. The side that doesn't want corporations going to other countries and destroying their culture and people. :buttkick: Yeah, that does sound like a bad side to be on.
 

Kerad

New Member
MMDad said:
I think it was somebody in the MOD. That's what pizzes me off. People who release classified documents to the press. I can't blame the press for running with what they are given.

Well, that's my point. Obviously somebody in the military (somebody in the loop) thought this should be public. Of course the Brits are going to report it, as I'm sure we would if the roles were reversed.

I don't think the video shows anything "bad", except for the fact that it occured in the first place. It's obvious the pilots thought they were firing on enemy. At least, after the initial hesitation.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
kjosxboyfriend said:
When you refer to the liberal side of life do you mean the side that wants peace and enjoys living their OWN life without government interference. The side that doens't want its country's laws based on what Jesus would do. The side that doesn't want corporations going to other countries and destroying their culture and people. :buttkick: Yeah, that does sound like a bad side to be on.
The side that want's me to pay someone's welfare because they are too lazy to get a job, the side that want's me to pull money out of my pocket to pay for someone's healthcare becuase they cannot get thier priorities straight. The side that wants to TAKE profits from companies and interfere with fair trade. Oh yeah, that sounds much better. :sarcasm:
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
Kerad said:
Well, that's my point. Obviously somebody in the military (somebody in the loop) thought this should be public. Of course the Brits are going to report it, as I'm sure we would if the roles were reversed.

I don't think the video shows anything "bad", except for the fact that it occured in the first place. It's obvious the pilots thought they were firing on enemy. At least, after the initial hesitation.
Yes, it should be released, like all government records, but there should be a sense of decency in the media industry not to air things like that. That was the point of my thread. Saddam was executed for crimes against humanity and the world will probably be a better place because of it, but there is really no good reason to air it. The same should be said over this video.
 

rack'm

Jaded
kjosxboyfriend said:
When you refer to the liberal side of life do you mean the side that wants peace and enjoys living their OWN life without government interference. The side that doens't want its country's laws based on what Jesus would do. The side that doesn't want corporations going to other countries and destroying their culture and people. :buttkick: Yeah, that does sound like a bad side to be on.


:killingme :killingme

Give me a F'ing break.......

1. Appeasement is not peace.
2. Taxing the working people poor to pay for welfare and countless other Govt. projects is interfering.

The GOP giving companies tax cuts is what makes them keep the jobs in this country.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
kjosxboyfriend said:
enjoys living their OWN life without government interference.
...
The side that doesn't want corporations going to other countries and destroying their culture and people.
You do realize that these two statements are at odds with each other, don't you?
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
kjosxboyfriend said:
When you refer to the liberal side of life do you mean the side that wants peace and enjoys living their OWN life without government interference.
Hello?? The foundation of the Democratic party is "Don't worry, the government will take care of you!!".

They want the government to control or be involved in every aspect of your life.. Health care.. schooling.. parenting.. housing.. Or is it they want the government to control everyone else's life?

You seem to have aligned yourself with the wrong party.
 

Warron

Member
I really don't see what all your problems are. The video seems to confirm that the pilot follow required procedures and felt remorse when he found out a mistake was made. Also, the video doesn’t seem to contain anything sensitive enough to require classification, so why exactly do you feel this needs to be hidden from the public?
 

Kerad

New Member
Bustem' Down said:
Yes, it should be released, like all government records, but there should be a sense of decency in the media industry not to air things like that. That was the point of my thread. Saddam was executed for crimes against humanity and the world will probably be a better place because of it, but there is really no good reason to air it. The same should be said over this video.

It's not as if you can see anything graphic in the video. To me, this is similar to watching tapes of the space shuttle explosions...or the planes going into the Towers on 9/11. It shows what happened. It isn't always "nice", but it puts the events into context. No one's going to force anybody to click the link...nobody's forced to watch.

The video actually helps to show the situation from the pilot's perspective. I feel terrible for them.
 

Coventry17

New Member
Homesick said:
Many thanks to you and your nephew.

Does your nephew, brothers, sisters in Iraq share your opinion?


I don't bring up my views my nephew. He's in a transportation group with the Marines in Okinawa. He joined the USMC straight out of high school, still wet behind the ears and thought the world stopped at the foot of the Blue Ridge Mountains. He graduated boot camp, spent about a month in Okinawa, then was sent to Iraq for a year. He's been back in Okinawa for 6 months and is about to go back to Iraq for another year. When I speak to him, I mostly try to talk about home and offer him professional advice as an E7 to an E2. My own political views would never stop me from doing my job and I never discuss politics (or religion :whistle: ) while in uniform. I swore an oath to obey orders and I will. I can't pick and choose what to follow, and I've taken many orders that I thought were absolutely asinine over the years and run with them. It's the nature of the business.

My grandfather is an Army vet who fought in WWII. He thinks the sun rises and falls on Bush and thinks everything is going just swimmingly in Iraq. Neither my parents, nor my brother, are very well informed politically, although my parents are against the war effort and don't think too much of our current president. They are not liberal, per se. In fact, I think my dad would call himself a Republican if pressed. I also have a son in the Air Force, stationed in Colorado. I pray that's where he'll stay until this thing is over.
 

chernmax

NOT Politically Correct!!
kjosxboyfriend said:
When you refer to the liberal side of life do you mean the side that wants peace and enjoys living their OWN life without government interference. The side that doens't want its country's laws based on what Jesus would do. The side that doesn't want corporations going to other countries and destroying their culture and people. :buttkick: Yeah, that does sound like a bad side to be on.

Micheal Jackson is selling Never, Never Land... :coffee:
 

scottrobts

New Member
itsbob said:
Hello?? The foundation of the Democratic party is "Don't worry, the government will take care of you!!".

They want the government to control or be involved in every aspect of your life.. Health care.. schooling.. parenting.. housing.. Or is it they want the government to control everyone else's life?

You seem to have aligned yourself with the wrong party.

and the Republican Party is the only party recognized by Jesus Christ, gurranteed to enlarge the federal government and increase the government involvement in the private life of citizens. what a choice.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
kjosxboyfriend said:
I can't believe how ridiculous you morons sound when the media tries to present a story that goes against "your" war. It's amazing how we are at a point now where nothing the media does is correct. Believe it or not things go wrong when you're killing innocent civilians in a conflict started by a monkey faced no brain turd. It's unfortunate when one of our "boys" dies, but one of ours equals about 500 dead Iraqi civilians so for you warmongers it's a nice give and take. Stop blaming the media for this country's woes. The real problem lies with people like you who worship Jesus and think Dick Cheney is a swell guy. You sit at home with some letterhead and write your Congressman on how gays and gambling are wrecking this country and then turnaround and show up on the "To Catch a Predator" show. You're sitting there with Chris Hanson explaining how that wasn't you writing the email convincing a thirteen year old boy that vibrators should be a part of his life. Do us all a favor and follow the lead of the two girls found on Rt. 9 in their vehicle. The world will be a much better place and it will give the media a story to cover.
No wonder K_Jo doesn't want you anymore.
 
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