The Origin Of Christmas

Nonno

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The Origin Of Christmas

"Christmas is a holiday shared and celebrated by many religions.

It is a day that has an effect on the entire world.

To many people, it is a favorite time of the year involving gift giving, parties and feasting. Christmas is a holiday that unifies almost all of professing Christendom.

The spirit of Christmas causes people to decorate their homes and churches, cut down trees and bring them into their homes, decking them with silver and gold.

In the light of that tree, families make merry and give gifts one to another.

When the sun goes down on December 24th, and darkness covers the land, families and churches prepare for participation in customs such as burning the yule log, singing around the decorated tree, kissing under the mistletoe and holly, and attending a late night service or midnight mass.

What is the meaning of Christmas? Where did the customs and traditions originate? "
 
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Nonno said:
The Origin Of Christmas

"Christmas is a holiday shared and celebrated by many religions.

It is a day that has an effect on the entire world.

To many people, it is a favorite time of the year involving gift giving, parties and feasting. Christmas is a holiday that unifies almost all of professing Christendom.

The spirit of Christmas causes people to decorate their homes and churches, cut down trees and bring them into their homes, decking them with silver and gold.

In the light of that tree, families make merry and give gifts one to another.

When the sun goes down on December 24th, and darkness covers the land, families and churches prepare for participation in customs such as burning the yule log, singing around the decorated tree, kissing under the mistletoe and holly, and attending a late night service or midnight mass.

What is the meaning of Christmas? Where did the customs and traditions originate? "
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Jesus is the reason for the season! The birth of the most high.
 
LadyWolf

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Nonno said:
The Origin Of Christmas

"Christmas is a holiday shared and celebrated by many religions.

It is a day that has an effect on the entire world.

To many people, it is a favorite time of the year involving gift giving, parties and feasting. Christmas is a holiday that unifies almost all of professing Christendom.

The spirit of Christmas causes people to decorate their homes and churches, cut down trees and bring them into their homes, decking them with silver and gold.

In the light of that tree, families make merry and give gifts one to another.

When the sun goes down on December 24th, and darkness covers the land, families and churches prepare for participation in customs such as burning the yule log, singing around the decorated tree, kissing under the mistletoe and holly, and attending a late night service or midnight mass.

What is the meaning of Christmas? Where did the customs and traditions originate? "
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Actually, I saw the "History Channel" yesterday, the birth of Christ, then they did another segment of "Christmas Unwrapped" where it talked a lot about where Christmas was derived. According to them, it started out as a celebration of Winter Solstice and evolved from there, but then banned and then reconstituted in the 1800's, following Santa Clause etc. It's a very long story but interesting. How true any of it is, who really knows for certain.
 
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LadyWolf said:
Actually, I saw the "History Channel" yesterday, the birth of Christ, then they did another segment of "Christmas Unwrapped" where it talked a lot about where Christmas was derived. According to them, it started out as a celebration of Winter Solstice and evolved from there, but then banned and then reconstituted in the 1800's, following Santa Clause etc. It's a very long story but interesting. How true any of it is, who really knows for certain.
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I watched that last night. I was hoping some of the forum bible bangers might catch it.
 
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Christmas was "created" by the religious people to lure the pagans into Christianity. The pagans celebrate the winter solstice in December and many of the customs of Christmas align with the customs of paganism and in todays society - its commercialism.

Many conservative Christian groups do not observe or celebrate Christmas because in all reality it has nothing to do with the birth of Christ, although the "Church" described it as such to justify it as a religious holiday.

And by the way - the same holds true for Easter, which coincides with the celebration of the pagan spring solstice.

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PsyOps

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lemon_drop07 said:
Christmas was "created" by the religious people to lure the pagans into Christianity. The pagans celebrate the winter solstice in December and many of the customs of Christmas align with the customs of paganism and in todays society - its commercialism.

Many conservative Christian groups do not observe or celebrate Christmas because in all reality it has nothing to do with the birth of Christ, although the "Church" described it as such to justify it as a religious holiday.

And by the way - the same holds true for Easter, which coincides with the celebration of the pagan spring solstice.

:shrug:
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Christians are so evil stealing everyone elses' holidays. :rolleyes:
 
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It was just a means to get the non Christians to convert to Christianity. Unfortunately, most kids today don't even realize Christmas is supposed to be a celebration of Jesus' birth.
 
wxtornado

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lemon_drop07 said:
Unfortunately, most kids today don't even realize Christmas is supposed to be a celebration of Jesus' birth.
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Most of them don't know the following either:

Horus c. 3000 BCE - born of the virgin Isis-Merion December 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.

Attis of Phrygia c.1400 BCE - born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana (or sometimes Cybelem).

Krishna c. 1400 BCE (possibly as early as 5771 BCE) - born of the Virgin Devaki (“Divine One”) on December 25.

Mithra of Persia c. 600 BCE - born of a virgin on December 25 in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds bearing gifts.

Buddha (Siddartha Gautama) c. 563 BCE - born on December 25 of the Virgin Maya (“the Queen of Heaven”).

Heracles c. 800 BCE - born on December 25 to a virgin who refrained from sex with her until her God-begotten child was born.

Dionysus c. 186 BCE - born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger.

Tammuz c. 400 BCE - born to a virgin, named Mylitta, on December 25

Adonis c. 200 BCE - born on December 25 was son of the virgin Myrha. (Almost certainly based on Tammuz).

Hermes - born on December 25 was the son of the virgin Maia, member of a holy trinity Hermes Tris-Megistus.

Bacchus - born on December 25, was crucified in 200 BCE.

Prometheus - born on December 25, descended from heaven as a god incarnate as man, to save mankind, and was crucified, suffered, and was redeemed from death.
 
This_person

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wxtornado said:
Most of them don't know the following either:

Horus c. 3000 BCE - born of the virgin Isis-Merion December 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.

Attis of Phrygia c.1400 BCE - born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana (or sometimes Cybelem).

Krishna c. 1400 BCE (possibly as early as 5771 BCE) - born of the Virgin Devaki (“Divine One”) on December 25.

Mithra of Persia c. 600 BCE - born of a virgin on December 25 in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds bearing gifts.

Buddha (Siddartha Gautama) c. 563 BCE - born on December 25 of the Virgin Maya (“the Queen of Heaven”).

Heracles c. 800 BCE - born on December 25 to a virgin who refrained from sex with her until her God-begotten child was born.

Dionysus c. 186 BCE - born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger.

Tammuz c. 400 BCE - born to a virgin, named Mylitta, on December 25

Adonis c. 200 BCE - born on December 25 was son of the virgin Myrha. (Almost certainly based on Tammuz).

Hermes - born on December 25 was the son of the virgin Maia, member of a holy trinity Hermes Tris-Megistus.

Bacchus - born on December 25, was crucified in 200 BCE.

Prometheus - born on December 25, descended from heaven as a god incarnate as man, to save mankind, and was crucified, suffered, and was redeemed from death.
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Yes, because people celebrate those things. That's why the real name of Christmas is actually Tammuzmas, but the church is repressing that.








:rolleyes:
 
wxtornado

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Nucklesack said:
Oh Pshaw dont you know those are all made up entities and folklore¿

The Facts about Christ are documented and proven by Biblical sources











:lmao:
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Indeed, and in a little while, or present-day God will join the group I just listed, only to be replaced by, yet another, forever and ever, amen. It was ever thus......
 
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Nonno said:
What is the meaning of Christmas? Where did the customs and traditions originate? "
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Since you asked:

Christmas was placed right about the time of the pagan holiday celebration (Dec 17-23) of Saturnalia the Roman god of seed planting and the winter solstice. Many people today don't know that because Christmas has overridden it since it's inception @ 325AD.
No one really knows when Jesus was born, so it is of little importance when the event is celebrated.
Christmas tree decorating originated in Germany with the practice of decorating a "Paradise" tree with apples symbolizing the tree of life in the Garden of Eden.
Along with that, was a triangular shaped wooden shelf filled with small figurines and topped with a star shaped figure representing the star that the "wise men" followed. The tree & the shelf were later combined to form the tree with a star on top & the decorations on it. Later, candles were used as lights for the trees.
Santa Clause was derived from the Dutch word Sinter Klaas which, in turn, was the name for a 4th century bishop named Saint Nicholas. He was a man that regularly gave gifts to small children and was at the Council of Nicea where he supported the doctrine of the Trinity.
The wise men of the Bible were educated men (in science & astrology) led by God to Jesus' manger and were shown, in a dream, how to avoid King Herod, so their gift giving was accepted by God Himself. (Matthew 2 v 9 & 12).
Finally, of all the traditional Christmas songs out today, one can only name a few that aren't about Jesus or mention His name.
So why would anyone make Christmas sound like it had pagan origins? Many of us were pagan then became Christian. The bottom line is that it is about celebrating the birth of Jesus, the Savior of the world.
 
This_person

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pcjohnnyb said:
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What did I miss?

That there are several other things that have similar stories? I got that. I don't care, but I got that.

Did you know that other little girls fell in love besides Juliette, and that those little girls' families and the families of the little boys they fell in love with didn't get along? Just because the Bard wrote it down in one story doesn't mean it wasn't true in another. Just because there are similar stories of other religious figures doesn't imply that the Christ wasn't the Christ. Just because other religions have histories on or around Dec 25th doesn't imply that Jesus was never born. Christmas is not a "made up" holiday. The date was chosen, probably to get most people involved, not because of the historical accuracy of the date. I seriously doubt Dec 25 was the day that Jesus was born. However, I don't know, so I celebrate it then, per convention.

Imagine adopting a child whose birthdate was unknown. If you chose a date to celebrate it (maybe the date of adoption), would that make the celebration of the child's "birthday" less special for not knowing the day? Would it imply that the child had no birthdate simply because you didn't know what it was?



Or, in other words, I fully understood and rejected what WxTornado was suggesting, and I was sarcastically (you could tell by the :rolleyes: waving off his pointless (in my estimation) comparisons.


But, I guess that went over your head.
 
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